Here's more on the Trepang.  IIRC there was a layout of about half of these in Life Magazine back when it occurred in 1971, right at or just after the blackout of UFO stories in "Official  News" outlets.

All photos in high res  They are the originals, not from the magazine scan that was posted here a couple years ago  Scrolling a ways down, that also has an article about the Admiral of that sub commenting on it in 2015.  Stated sub was in area but he didn't personally see anything or take any photos.  Wouldn't expand on a couple other questions.

The video just seems to be a slideshow of the images in that link, I can't find the Life Magazine article on it, I remember that big one had the seam/staple right down the middle as it was placed to take up the full width The more famous one with it bursting out of water.

I was wrong about it being Life Magazine.  It's from some French / Euro magazine in 1971 for the initial leak.  These are a few of those photos which were stretched over the fold to get a bigger image




The Magazine scan didn't have the depth of color compared to the originals that are shown in this thread.  Can't find the name of the magazine anywhere unless it was called "Top Secret" or something along those lines.  At the link the French overlaid on photos is translated below caption (which I didn't copy)

There have been a LOT of comments in that direction.   Mentioning Area of the Earth which is Not explored, with ocean being 95% unknown, most of Antarctica for example (not much for public info but odd meetings there).   Several are tagged "UUO"s for Unknown Underwater Objects and there's an acronym for craft that have been seen underwater, in atmosphere and in near Earth space as well.  I forgot the catch all, UAP is just aerial phenomenon.  The blanket acronym is HAUC - (Hybrid Aerospace-Underwater Craft" Half of the images/videos leaked in the past decade have them coming out of or going into the ocean and then popping back up in the blink of an eye, sometimes without even a splash.  Even Northrop Grumman says UFOs are real but aren't aliens from outer space

Note: The stuff below is conglomerated from several other threads in this forum which go into a lot of detail for each bit.

Lue has really emphasized the "what we don't even know on  Earth" aspect in addition to a Spiritual/ "phase space" / paranormal aspect where not all craft match one classification and some match parts of a couple classifications.   Some people will associate disclosure with starting to go to church, and some going to church will stop attending once the disclosure happens.   Lue says the population of Earth would be "Somber" for a few weeks, implying something striking to the heart of what we know as reality.   Everything now has been waiting on the rest of the world to give the "OK" to go public since it's private sector controlled (Rumored under 150 people on the "OK list" of the private dozen or so "gatekeepers" outside .gov control or even influence.  Some say as few as 50 people now have full access after deaths of people that were "in" from 50s-90s and not replaced, plus some possibly removed for suspected leaks, just keeping "in pool" down in manageable numbers.  There are craploads of private $$$ invested worldwide they don't want to cut off that gravy train or lose control of the tech and we're left with only the few tidbits that are shared.

The next two paragraphs will make better sense if the 15 page Wilson Memo is read and you've watched all of the Lue Elizondo interviews and statements made.

The latest confirmation of discussions about UAP/UFO seem to have put all of that information into a private commercial company and the typical .gov person is not cleared to learn much about it.  Not even the president can look at it since it isn't classified in the traditional way, it's put under a SAP (Special Access Program) which includes some .gov but mostly private company leaders deciding who gets in and who is out.   Leaning toward Lockheed Martin and SkunkWorks as my guess.  

Lue stated that the technology was acquired by the .gov but then given only to one aerospace company and not the others when contracts were put out for bids, one company had a huge boost in tech unknown to others.    Take that bit of info, the confirmation of that info in the Wilson memos and Lockheed acquired Boeing who acquired McDdonnell Douglas.  The F117, F22, and F35 have all been LockMart's babies when the acquisitions are all added together, there's only one Aerospace company around yet, Boeing has the traditional aircraft design and LockMart does the military or something like that.  Add in the timeline of this SAP program starting in the 80s where they put the private sector security access on it and the sudden changes in aircraft company profits and acquisitions and to me it screams "LockMart".

Things are going slow, but comparing the last 5 years with the 40 years prior to that things are going along at a pretty good clip, though it seems geological time while waiting day to day/week to week for the next paper published, meeting announced, or interview given.



--ETA:  Adding this which is another article talking about "The Gatekeepers" being like Skull and Bones secret club sort of group which has managed to be transferred out of a US .gov controlled SAP to prevent congress/president and anybody else they don't trust from seeing more than very basic/simple info which had portions previously leaked anyway.

There's a "Secret Society" in the Pentagon Hiding UFO Secrets, Officials Say



Remember the interview where Lue said it will take several congressional and senate hearings to get anywhere, or at least get a large portion of it kicked open to scholars and engineers to review while maintaining secrecy, they refuse to let go of their total control of the topic and manipulate the media, the .gov/.mil, and all the proles in the world to have them just ignored or "knowing" misinformation.

I wasn't implying the F22 and others were alien tech, just that Lockheed seems to be the only one coming up with wicked new designs and has Skunk works while Boeing and others didn't/couldn't/wouldn't have their own secret development site away from prying eyes.    Lue said in a couple interviews that "technology and methods were given to only one aerospace company and kept secret from all the others".    

Boeing is/has been developing, building, and selling tens of thousands of 7xx passenger aircraft but not turning anything like the profit that Lockheed has done over same time frame despite much lower volume of aircraft production, even getting bought out by their own stock.   Add in the Wilson Memo which was submitted leaked and very recently declassified, speaks directly to a Private aerospace company holds the keys to the majority of the UFO info (not even Pentagon has full access) and Lockheed is just my guess as to which company that is.  

That's kind of where I'm at.   Everybody else has been bought out and kept as subsidiaries or merged.  Unless there is something more advanced than skunkworks which is extremely well hidden and the whole Area 51 is just a distraction from where the invisible super company is doing its thing.  Back in WWII/Korea/Vietnam there were several aircraft companies, then they all merged bit by bit.  I'm guessing Raytheon has more than a finger in that pool as well as they're nearly exclusive providers of electronic/satellite/avionic systems and aircraft and ship accessories like missiles.    

It could just take one thing to step far ahead where looking at it says "oh, that's obvious how it works" but prior to knowing it could be done and doing it the first time seemed impossible.   Similar to how hard drive densities have gone 100x higher capacity and IC density than thought possible in the 80s due to feature size and using tunneling and optical principles to get "over the hump" of each false peak.  

As far as secrets, this is covered in "Behold, A Pale Horse" (thread in this forum on that) stated that the F117 was designed and created in the late 60s / early 70s and there were NO leaks regarding it until it was disclosed after one was shot down in the Balkans/Kosovo war/"police action" in the late 80s.  That completely kills the age old argument of "no way something hundreds of people are in on could be kept perfectly secret - somebody would talk" (mostly used when saying there's now way the whole crew of a ship  could keep any secrets).   It does, however, explain some of the UFO sightings, so Project Blue Book was made to 'prove' it's all illusions or swamp gas just to keep the public from guessing it - call them kooks instead.

The biggest thing in engineering something new is simply Knowing something is possible.  Companies won't waste time and money on something they think is impossible or a pipe dream dead end.   Once they do know something can be done, then billions are dumped into it and the tech explodes, smart phones, for example regarding circuit density and low power CPUs/and very high capacity yet small long lasting batteries.

I forgot about them.  The US DoD blocked the Lockheed/Northrop Merger in the 90s.  I thought it had gone through.

Sign of getting old, when things 10 years apart seem to have happened right almost the same day.

Again, I'm not saying alien technology in our aircraft.    It revolves around the company spoken about in the recently declassified (formerly only leaked) Wilson Memos  Lockheed is mentioned by Name on Page 5 "Lockheed slides" in some Vegas meeting,  and on Page 8 "Private Aerospace company has complete control of access, won't name them — Core Secret"

Reading the whole 15 pages will help get a lot of people on the same page.  These were submitted as evidence and thus declassified in the recent UAP congressional hearings.   The Memos even say not Pentagon/President/Congress have full access to their info anymore, and the very VERY narrow slit which fits "Need to Know" for the TS/SCI SAP (Top Secret / Secure Compartmentalized Information / Special Access Program) access privileges of any sort.

It is known that Obama sold Several SAP programs to global highest bidders, and also domestic by getting around 4th Amendment by "buying" Google profile data and then mixing and matching with NSA/FBI information to have dirt on Anybody.  Nobody can pass a full FISA Check with the 3 degrees rule and be found clean.  Everybody inadvertently breaks laws, often while trying to follow other laws.  Nobody actually knows how many laws we have, so it's easy to have a nation of criminals to blackmail and frame / plant whatever evidence they'd like Source on SAP TS/SCI leaks in event of living under rock (aka tiny portion RussiaGate, the actual damage and loss of civilian control of .gov is far, FAR worse, especially now that private companies have all the dirt on everybody which is shared back to the .gov).    

Example of the Google private data..  FBI wants to hassle somebody, they look at their FISA database and pick something at Random, then have it leaked to the New York Times, who then publishes and article on it, at which point InstaTwitFaceoogle and rest of tech then share their supporting evidence with the FBI who then use it to leak more and net/release others based on cooperation or not.    It's a self licking ice cream cone, and when there is ZERO oversight as we see in the "UFO Department/AATIP/et al", you can be damn sure it's abused as much or worse for selling super tiny little secrets/details.

So it's not about the tech in various craft, though the fuel movement in B2 is a cool tidbit, IIRC, SR71 had something similar scooting fuel around to maintain trim due to the rate it burned fuel, while the B2 might be using it to "un-trim" the craft, so similar concept opposite purpose.

In a nutshell, here in UFO forum on first page, we have videos, documents, and all that, we don't have any 100% definite answers, but we're getting a good idea of the rough shape the truth might be, or at least some solid examples of what doesn't fit in with things known.  We know a lot more of what was BS than we did 4 years ago.   Most of us don't agree on what our favorite working theories are.  I don't know of anybody that "is certain of the truth", except for the people absolutely positive it's all BS.

There was a video posted just above which I think came closest to what is hinted at regarding ESP - "All of Time and Space are connected" regarding the ability to "bring ET home".   That video is just above, in This Post

Proof of what?   This thread is about a slideshow.  Others are about interviews and some are about books.  All have some explainable facets and some strange ones.   It's broadening of horizons.   As far as aliens, even several in the UFO sector have said that UFO's are NOT alien, but they aren't from man's Earth , either.   It's like working on crossword or Sudoku puzzles to piece together what might be being stated or maybe not.  Learning more tidbits of science about everything from paranormal psychology to abnormal psych to aerospace technology and professional pilots recounting their stories of encounters, a few with imagery taken directly off aircraft FLIR and visible Imagery recordings.  

We don't know, there's no proof needed to say "this is all interesting information but we still don't know what much of it means".

The Wilson Memos are proof that activity regarding some technology of unknown/unstated origin is compartmentalized at levels where elected .gov officials aren't allowed access to that info.   That doesn't mean aliens or anything else, it does show another shiny spot of the corruption polish all over  our .gov, however.  A few years ago, those same pages  were "fake document leaks".  Suddenly, that has been shown to be the exact opposite of the truth.

If wanting instant incontrovertible proof of Aliens (or whatever you feel conversation is about), and something which can't be looked at the way "Natural Philosophers" would have seen things 500 years ago, with the greats of Maxwell and Newton, just  stay in GD and ignore this entire forum as nothing presented is anything you'll accept. Locking on and going after a single detail in a thread to show "it is absolutely wrong" is a bit pointless when nobody is really saying "it is absolutely right", more of a "its been suggested" level of certainty. Especially when new documents are filed in hearings and then opened to the public, several of which give information entirely different than what we were told on that same topic a decade ago.  Which to believe?  All of them, just keep piecing together and that's what makes up the chat in this forum.   There's no "this is right so everything else is wrong", as we don't have any clue exactly what characteristic we're talking about on a topic or if they're related and assumptions are made.  Just having them documented to look through later is a goal in and of itself.

Doubtful.

There is a group of people interested in the "Nazi Bell".



There is a whole theory of a "Breakway Civilization" which occurred in the same timeframe as US Operation Paperclip, where all the Tech and "Aryan Race" (some suppose they were 'aliens' which propelled German Tech in the early and mid 20th Century until their facilities were bombed to oblivion) spread to South America and Antarctica and continued development but stayed isolated and peaceful from the rest of the world.


Little outside the topic of this thread though, there's several websites on it with different variations on the same theme.


One site covering a bit of it

Another site related to the "bell" itself

Theories of what the UFOs and all the other stuff might have in common which includes a breakway civilization.

It gets pretty fringe really quick on those sites, so suspend disbelief before clicking.