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Posted: 11/10/2023 2:29:57 PM EDT
Is there another gun company that has allowed them self to become more irrelevant than colt?   Even through all the bankruptcy and corporate buy outs, Remington still makes a popular shotgun.   Colt seems like they're holding on for dear life.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:30:32 PM EDT
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Colt is the first that comes to mind.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:31:27 PM EDT
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USFA after releasing that turd of a gun called the Zip-22
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:31:51 PM EDT
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Is Remington making anything anymore? I didn't think the factories were up and going anymore.

Bushmaster. Use to be one of the Big Three. A go to company for the AR user.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:32:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Weatherby...

If I want a Howa, I just buy a Howa, and their flagship stuff is meh at best.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:32:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Larue

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:32:31 PM EDT
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Is Remington making anything anymore? I didn't think the factories were up and going anymore.

Bushmaster. Use to be one of the Big Three. A go to company for the AR user.
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As far as I know they fired up the 870 line again.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:32:56 PM EDT
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Magpul
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:33:21 PM EDT
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Colt is still putting out great revolvers, 1911s, and ARs
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:35:09 PM EDT
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Larueminati is assembling to deal with you.





but I agree.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:35:19 PM EDT
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Winchester. Classic American rifles sold by tradition and nostalgia, made in Japan by people who can never own one.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:36:19 PM EDT
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Magpul
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Magpul still makes the best AR mags by far
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:37:19 PM EDT
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Remington
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:37:56 PM EDT
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Browning
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:38:03 PM EDT
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Nowhere near the level of Colt but I’d say Spikes.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:38:23 PM EDT
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Bushmaster
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:39:23 PM EDT
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the Colt thing is a non-starter. They'll always have a market for their revolvers and 1911s, and for a while longer yet anyway a market for guys who want a Colt AR like they carried in service.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:39:41 PM EDT
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I almost showed my age by rattling off a list of companies from the 1970's and 80's.

Ehh, nevermind.

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:39:45 PM EDT
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Olympic Arms.  Was a sad day when they turned the lights off.

Marlin.  The original company that made so many wonderful waffle top lever guns with deep bluing and walnut.

H&R/NEF.  Those single shot guns with the extra barrel program they offered was great.

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:40:15 PM EDT
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Rock River
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:40:17 PM EDT
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Noveske
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:40:24 PM EDT
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People still want Colt designs.  
Nobody wants that piece of shit ZIP-22
I feel sorry for the people that worked for that dumbass.  How many had good manufacturing jobs while they were making a demanded SAA pistol  - and then had to go looking for work elsewhere immediately after

It’s true Colt hasn’t done anything innovative in a long time .  All older designs.   But then neither have any other gun manufacturers except maybe Sig over the last 25 years.    Mostly just cosmetic changes
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:42:56 PM EDT
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“Winchester” is just a trademarked name that is whored out by Olin Corp. to whomever wants to market guns or Chinese junk under that once prestigious name.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:44:48 PM EDT
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Magpul still makes the best AR mags by far
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I can only assume you have never used Lancer magazines. Magpul is my third or fourth choice for AR mags.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:45:10 PM EDT
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Ithaca
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:45:28 PM EDT
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Magpul

Rock River

LMT

Bushmaster

Mega

Remington

Sako
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:46:36 PM EDT
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I thought MEGA was bought by Zev? The second stripped upper I bought for my SBR'd MEGA MATEN lower was purchased from Zev.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:47:03 PM EDT
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Ithaca. I actually had to double check to see if they were still in business, although it seems like they are really only trying to cater to hunting market now.
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Armalite.
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DPMS
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:49:07 PM EDT
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And a lot of military contracts worldwide.

I still want the MRR.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:49:25 PM EDT
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Salient

Stag

Colt

Noveske

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:50:09 PM EDT
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Bushmaster, Armalite and Rock River were big names in the AR world 15-ish years ago.

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:51:13 PM EDT
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Noveske

The most innovation they have done lately is a water gun. Not kidding.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:51:39 PM EDT
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Is Remington making anything anymore? I didn't think the factories were up and going anymore.

Bushmaster. Use to be one of the Big Three. A go to company for the AR user.
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My first thought as well.

(Goes to admire my Bushmaster SBR, first Form I gun I ever made)
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:51:58 PM EDT
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Noveske

The most innovation they have done lately is a water gun. Not kidding.
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Hey now, they also innovate in other ways.  Like retardly expensive plaid shirt collabs.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:57:25 PM EDT
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Not a manufacturer, but the NRA.  Calling them useless would be an upgrade for them.  The only purpose they serve now is as the big boogeyman for the left.  That takes the heat off the groups actually getting work done so that is something but on their own?  Useless.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 2:59:21 PM EDT
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Kimber?
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:00:31 PM EDT
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This is true and makes me really sad.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:00:50 PM EDT
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Weatherby...

If I want a Howa, I just buy a Howa, and their flagship stuff is meh at best.
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@Aggie_Gunner

Your post is incorrect. Get with the times.

WY
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:01:29 PM EDT
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Came to post this.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:01:55 PM EDT
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Went to Ithaca a couple years ago.  Was cool to see the old smokestack from the factory still standing.   Also made me sad…..
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:02:59 PM EDT
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I almost showed my age by rattling off a list of companies from the 1970's and 80's.

Ehh, nevermind.

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Holloway Arms.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:03:06 PM EDT
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Noveske

The most innovation they have done lately is a water gun. Not kidding.
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The innovation died with John unfortunately.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:03:59 PM EDT
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Not a manufacturer, but the NRA.  Calling them useless would be an upgrade for them.  The only purpose they serve now is as the big boogeyman for the left.  That takes the heat off the groups actually getting work done so that is something but on their own?  Useless.
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Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:06:10 PM EDT
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Bushmaster, Armalite and Rock River were big names in the AR world 15-ish years ago.

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"Ban Era Businesses".  They were the go to for LE during those years, and immediately after until other manufacturers could get going.

Ruger was so close to becoming one of these companies, then they released the LCP.  Did a 180 on Bill's distain for civilian martial arms and became a go to budget manufacturer.  Remington was just like them, but decided to stay the course and ride it into irrelevancy .

Kimber, everyone who didn't want to spend on a Colt wanted a Kimber back in the day.

I don't think Magpul has gone down hill at all, its just there's a lot more competition in the same marketplace these days.

Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:07:27 PM EDT
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Mauser
Stevens
Llama
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:08:32 PM EDT
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Red Jacket Firearms
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:08:50 PM EDT
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I remember Spikes being the hot shit around here when I joined.
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:09:21 PM EDT
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Del-Ton
Link Posted: 11/10/2023 3:12:55 PM EDT
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I hate to say it, because I still think the model 70 is an objectively better action than the 700 and always will be, but Winchester/Browning are pretty irrelevant to anyone but a certain group of hunters who still think A Bolts are something special and not just shiny turds with gold triggers.  They remind me of Harley owners.  The only thing keeping Browning relevant at all is their sporting shotguns, IMO.  Not because they're the best or anything particularly special but they fill a niche of shotgun demand that no one else really does, particularly to the extent that they do.

ETA: I really like the Browning rain jacket I bought this year  Another similarity with HD.  I wonder how much revenue share Browning gets from branded clothing compared to firearms.
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