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Posted: 9/28/2016 10:54:34 PM EDT
I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:55:15 PM EDT
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Why not? 9mm is. I never use + P rounds. All they really do is wear your shit down quicker.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:55:28 PM EDT
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.
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Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:55:51 PM EDT
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Yup
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:56:27 PM EDT
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Nope, people developed an immunity to it after 9mm took over
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:56:28 PM EDT
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When did it stop being so?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 10:59:35 PM EDT
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:01:04 PM EDT
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They sell a Venezuelan shit ton of .380 acp's every year, despite the low power and capacity. I'd much rather have a J frame in .38 or even better, a model 66 .357. It's been killing motherfuckers for quite some time. Not obsolete.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:02:27 PM EDT
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135 grain Speer GDHP short barrel,
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:02:34 PM EDT
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      whoops totally misread the question.

 
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:03:16 PM EDT
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Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.


Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!


Id say its probably a little better than .380

Buffaloebore has a smoking round but i think its plus p but not sure. They have a lot of standard pressure that is pushing it
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:04:15 PM EDT
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.
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Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:05:11 PM EDT
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.
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I like wadcutters in a .38 snubby.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:05:35 PM EDT
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Nope, people developed an immunity to it after 9mm took over
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:05:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:06:35 PM EDT
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.38 spcl is an excellent round for a CCW.

Just ask Lee Oswald.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:07:37 PM EDT
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Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.


Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!
Wrong.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:07:41 PM EDT
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135 grain Speer GDHP short barrel,
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:08:03 PM EDT
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Ding, ding, ding.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:09:51 PM EDT
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That's why they don't make little guns in .25 and .32 like they used to.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:09:59 PM EDT
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.38 spcl is an excellent round for a CCW.

Just ask Lee Oswald.
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I've shot. Hogs with the old FBI lead hollowpoint load, if it will kill a 200 lb hog it's a damn sight better than .380
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:10:08 PM EDT
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Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.



Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.


g19 is a postage stamp?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:10:30 PM EDT
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Yup.... and Winchester Ranger PDX1 for four inch K-Frames.

 
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:11:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:12:11 PM EDT
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Yup.  I have confidence in the Buffalo Bore 158 gr. SWC in my LCR.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:12:57 PM EDT
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I hope so, since I just got one.



It can shoot a light, high velocity round or a slow, heavy round without issues. Heck it can do them both in the same cylinder and won't jam or fail to cycle because of inconsistent pressure curves like a semi will. Pretty much the same power range as 9mm plus extra room on both ends of the power spectrum (100gr to 180gr bullets at wildly variable velocities).
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:14:53 PM EDT
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Buffaloebore has a smoking round but i think its plus p but not sure. They have a lot of standard pressure that is pushing it
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.




Probably on par with a typical .380. It's not great but it sure beats nothing!




Id say its probably a little better than .380



Buffaloebore has a smoking round but i think its plus p but not sure. They have a lot of standard pressure that is pushing it
It's well beyond .380. It's around 9x19mm but with more versatility in bullet weight and velocity. You can make .380-level light loads but also heavy loads that get to far higher power levels.



 
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:18:23 PM EDT
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.380 and .38 spcl aren't even remotely comparable.  So, stop it!
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:18:33 PM EDT
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I just ordered a peacemaker copy in .357 I'll try out the .38's in it verses paper bad guys.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:18:47 PM EDT
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Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.



Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.


So what is wrong about what I said?
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:19:35 PM EDT
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I think round is not really too much of a factor as stats are all over the place.  Number of rounds one can accurately put down range with something they can reasonably carry for their situation takes precedents.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:20:20 PM EDT
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Designed for the short barrel



 
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:20:42 PM EDT
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So what is wrong about what I said?
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.



Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.


So what is wrong about what I said?



The part about it not making sense to choose a snub.  Millions of people prove you wrong every day.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:21:19 PM EDT
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Of course it is.  The only issue 38 spl has is capacity in revolver vs semi auto and reloading in s/a vs rev.

Revolvers are supper reliable. 38 spl is super controlable
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:21:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:21:57 PM EDT
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Why ask this on the GD forum?  Hop on over to the Ammunition Forum and check out the Ammo Oracle for suggested loads.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:22:04 PM EDT
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Where are you guys coming up with  a 38 being the same as a 380?  They are pretty much the same diameter bullet, but the 38 case is a lot longer for powder. Traditional 125-158gr bullet are better then a 90gr-115gr 380auto....... BUT why limit yourself to 6 shots out of a long and bulky little revolver? There are plenty of 9+1 and 10+1 reliable auto pistols out there that conceal easier then that thing. The ONLY advantage I see with a revolver is that I'm NOT going to pull that loooong trigger by mistake....like can happen with an auto. So I use my brain and think......and I've had no mishaps in 20 years of carrying!  To each his own I suppose.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:23:07 PM EDT
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No it is worthless... People are a lot harder to kill now than at anytime in the past...Nothing less than a 12 guage slug at point blank range is a reliable man stopper.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:24:04 PM EDT
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I always enjoy it when we have 90 gr .380 and 115-124 gr 9mm glock users questioning or arguing whether a 158 gr at 850 fps is still viable.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:25:42 PM EDT
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.
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I use wad cutters in my snubbie.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:26:33 PM EDT
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Yes - of course.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:28:29 PM EDT
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Snubbies are really good if you have a fat 400+ pd basement dweller on top of you. Just stick it in his gut and pull the trigger.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:29:58 PM EDT
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It is in my opinion.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:30:00 PM EDT
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No it is worthless... People are a lot harder to kill now than at anytime in the past...Nothing less than a 12 guage slug at point blank range is a reliable man stopper.
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BS.... birdshot is cheaper and just as effective
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:30:26 PM EDT
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I've shot. Hogs with the old FBI lead hollowpoint load, if it will kill a 200 lb hog it's a damn sight better than .380
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.38 spcl is an excellent round for a CCW.



Just ask Lee Oswald.






I've shot. Hogs with the old FBI lead hollowpoint load, if it will kill a 200 lb hog it's a damn sight better than .380




 



Carry these in my S&W 438  daily
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:30:33 PM EDT
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I wouldn't want to shot by one.  I wouldn't want to be shot by .380 or 9 Mak either.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:31:12 PM EDT
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The part about it not making sense to choose a snub.  Millions of people prove you wrong every day.
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.



Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.


So what is wrong about what I said?



The part about it not making sense to choose a snub.  Millions of people prove you wrong every day.


I think he's just saying that if you're going IWB a G43/Shield/PPS/XD-S size pistol makes a lot more sense than a 38 snub.


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Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:32:12 PM EDT
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The part about it not making sense to choose a snub.  Millions of people prove you wrong every day.
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When you are limited to pocket carry, yes. If you have the option to wear something IWB, it doesn't make sense to choose a snub over a sub/compact frame semi.



Until you actually Attempt to use that postage stamp sized semi to save your ass.


So what is wrong about what I said?



The part about it not making sense to choose a snub.  Millions of people prove you wrong every day.


Okay.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:32:51 PM EDT
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Where are you guys coming up with  a 38 being the same as a 380?  They are pretty much the same diameter bullet, but the 38 case is a lot longer for powder. Traditional 125-158gr bullet are better then a 90gr-115gr 380auto....... BUT why limit yourself to 6 shots out of a long and bulky little revolver? There are plenty of 9+1 and 10+1 reliable auto pistols out there that conceal easier then that thing. The ONLY advantage I see with a revolver is that I'm NOT going to pull that loooong trigger by mistake....like can happen with an auto. So I use my brain and think......and I've had no mishaps in 20 years of carrying!  To each his own I suppose.
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I've never had a mishap at all in over 40 years. I can also shoot a snubby easily at 50 yd. Try that with your LCP.
Link Posted: 9/28/2016 11:32:58 PM EDT
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I like wadcutters in a .38 snubby.
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I have a Colt Cobra snub nose revolver, not supposed to run +p ammo in it.  That leaves me with plain .38 jhp ammo if I want to use this revolver as a concealed carry gun.


I like wadcutters in a .38 snubby.



For non +P you may have something. I remember a case where a guy had someone shoot him with a 38 for some sort of scam or to blame someone else.

He reasoned to use a wadcutter target load so it wouldn't hurt him too bad. Killed him deader than shit. Recovered bullet was .70+

The original Hydroshock before it has made by Federal was nothing but a HBWC turned backwards with a post in the middle.

I think these would do OK in warm weather but may have trouble with heavy clothes.
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