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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6mm ARC That fits in an AR-15, OP is looking for AR-10 sized cartridges. For the AR-15 the 6mm ARC appears to be on top but... ...don't worry in 2 years they will create a new round and it will be the big push for awhile....just look at the .224 Valkyrie. This theory applies to both the AR-10 & AR-15. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:17:17 PM EDT
[#2]
.300 Savage
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to say .30-06. But also wasnt6 the 6.5 x 55 Swedish Mauser a very well respected round? Accuracy? Enough power etc. The 6.5 Swedish was designed for rifles made in the late 19th century. I own three rifles in this caliber, and although it is extremely accurate at 100-200 yds., it drops off quickly after that. For longer distance shooting, I fall back on my .308. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:28:15 PM EDT
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The bullet is more important than the bore diameter. A M193 will outperform a M80 FMJ.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .300 Savage But if .308 isn't good enough for OP, then .30 TC will be nice and similar-looking too. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:34:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.5 CM, 260 remington. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.8 SPC shooting 90gr Gold Dots  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOzW9qh0mX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knfz2x_8S_ICan you even find the 90 gr GD anymore? |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:49:01 PM EDT
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No.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:49:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 6.5 Swedish was designed for rifles made in the late 19th century. I own three rifles in this caliber, and although it is extremely accurate at 100-200 yds., it drops off quickly after that. For longer distance shooting, I fall back on my .308. Bruh... 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:50:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.8 SPC shooting 90gr Gold Dots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOzW9qh0mX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knfz2x_8S_IMy favorite round. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:53:30 PM EDT
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.45-70
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Posted: 1/22/2024 7:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a 308Win because ammo isn’t cheap and you want to shoot. 308Win is cheaper than other options. Show me where .308 is so much cheaper? SG Ammo right now - cheapest ball is 90 cents. And they have 6.5 CM - 90 cents. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:00:52 PM EDT
[#13]
6.6 Creedmour or 8.7 Hayabusa would both trump the 308
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:04:25 PM EDT
[#14]
.308 is perfectly fine. 6.8SPC if you want a small frame/short action.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:06:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Implying there’s 6.5 CM surplus? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont even own a .308 anymore. Surplus dried up and its no longer a deal. I switched to 6.5cm. Implying there’s 6.5 CM surplus? Implying that cheap surplus was one of the 308’s best features and now that it’s gone it doesn’t have much if any of an edge over 6.5 Creedmoor. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More effective at what? At long range, 6.5 Creedmoor gives better performance than 308 but in side of 400 yards favors 308. And the 6.5 has less recoil at any range. 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:08:20 PM EDT
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Not sure if serious, but the 6.5 Creedmoor was pretty much designed to do what you are asking.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if you are going to be shooting inside of 400 yards I suggest handloading the 130 gr ttsx barnes boat tail bullet to max pressure. it should get up to 3200fps and has an extremely flat trajectory but beyond that it starts rapidly losing steam. these bullets shot sub MOA out of a tikka rifle no need to look for a different cartridge, these bullets basically turn the 308 into a 270 winchester. look to the barnes website for load data. Thx, I’ll check those out ! |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if you are going to be shooting inside of 400 yards I suggest handloading the 130 gr ttsx barnes boat tail bullet to max pressure. it should get up to 3200fps and has an extremely flat trajectory but beyond that it starts rapidly losing steam. these bullets shot sub MOA out of a tikka rifle no need to look for a different cartridge, these bullets basically turn the 308 into a 270 winchester. look to the barnes website for load data. Yep, that’s my load for deer the past 10 years, really hammers them. I did play with the 110 TTSX this year, dropped 3 deer, but I can’t say any better than with the 130’s. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:12:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .30-06  Absofuckinglutely ! 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:14:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62x54R is your answer. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 277 Fury. Moriarti Arms makes uppers for them. https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/media/wysiwyg/Blog_Pics/150/277_FURY_Vs_others.png https://mcarbo.americommerce.com/.Blog%20Pages%20Images/277%20Fury%20Ballistics%20Chart/sigfury277chart.jpg 277 Fury Ammo Link |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:23:25 PM EDT
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6.5 creedmoor with 140gr bullets at 3000fps when SiG starts making 6.5 Jesus moor with their hybrid case design.
But really any of the round based on a 308 but slightly necked down will be better for almost every purpose. 6mm Rem/.243winchester, 260 Rem or its almost identical cousin 6.5 creedmoor. 6.8-08 aka 277 fury aka 6.8x51 aka 6.8 common or 7mm-08 are all the same package size as 308. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:32:05 PM EDT
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My buddy says:
"GP11" |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:38:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.5 Jeremy Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Distance, penetration, shooting flat, etc... 6.5 Jeremy It's pretty inconsistent. Can't remember why though... |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:39:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7mm-08 Thisistheway.jpg |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:44:41 PM EDT
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Why would you switch? A good lesson my dad taught me was stick with calibers you can find anywhere. Any gun shop. Walmart.
22LR, 9mm, 223, 308, 300WM, 50BMG. I never believed him until a buddy of mine ordered a 257 Roberts. The gun shop had to special order the ammo. I was like, dang dad, you are smart. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:50:22 PM EDT
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6mm Creedmoor pushing a 108gr EOL Berger over 3200fps...
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you switch? A good lesson my dad taught me was stick with calibers you can find anywhere. Any gun shop. Walmart. 22LR, 9mm, 223, 308, 300WM, 50BMG. I never believed him until a buddy of mine ordered a 257 Roberts. The gun shop had to special order the ammo. I was like, dang dad, you are smart. The popular hunting calibers might actually be easier to find in a panic. I bet you'd have better odds of finding a box of 7mm Mag in stock somewhere than you would have trying to find any flavor of 5.56 during the next panic. Just some food for thought. 
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:51:12 PM EDT
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What's funny is that 7.62x51mm (NATO) - developed in the 1950s - is VERY similar to the rimless 7.65x53mm cartridge that Paul Mauser developed for his 1889 rifle.
People just keep making "new" cartridges when they could use use existing designs.
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:53:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .300 Savage I knew an old widow in the middle of nowhere Alaska who took a moose every year with her husbands' .300 Savage bolt gun. I'd never heard of it until she brought it out to verify zero. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:17:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:32:14 PM EDT
[#33]
25 souper, 7-08
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:35:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62x53 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .30-06 7.62x53 Where would you get ammo for 7.62x53R ? That's a rare cartridge , isn't it ? Im assuming you purposefully typed x53, and didnt mean 7.62x63 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .30-06 .30-06 does have a higher velocity then 7.62 NATO but I Don't think make an AR upper in it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any semiautomatic in this caliber has gotten holy shit expensive. Sadly your right, I passed on one around 2008 for $600.00 |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:40:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's funny is that 7.62x51mm (NATO) - developed in the 1950s - is VERY similar to the rimless 7.65x53mm cartridge that Paul Mauser developed for his 1889 rifle. People just keep making "new" cartridges when they could use use existing designs. I'd say the exception lies with modern designs that noticeably improve the performance of older cartridges, such as any of the Ackley Improved variants. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 277 Fury. Moriarti Arms makes uppers for them. https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/media/wysiwyg/Blog_Pics/150/277_FURY_Vs_others.png https://mcarbo.americommerce.com/.Blog%20Pages%20Images/277%20Fury%20Ballistics%20Chart/sigfury277chart.jpg 277 Fury Ammo type Status report message description Access to the specified resource has been forbidden. Apache Tomcat/7.0.68 (Ubuntu) |
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