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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:37:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UMMMM... GBSD is in Utah, along with NSA. AFAIK the largest inland Naval base is in ID. Sorry. Nobody’s waisting a nuke on that little naval testing base. If I’m wrong, don’t worry I’ll be ash. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:39:45 PM EST
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Quoted: Where are the safest USA areas to be in the event of a nuclear war? Would it take us out or do we have a chance if in a strategic location? If it’s nukes and is mutually assured destruction you don’t want to survive. Go to a sure target and get a front row seat. You won’t feel a thing. Yellowstone volcano is praying for a nuke to help it erupt. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:41:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if my location has about 900 nukes stored about 20 miles directly north of it? Do I qualify? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In before people think their town is a priority target because the hood latch for humvees are made there. What if my location has about 900 nukes stored about 20 miles directly north of it? Do I qualify? Yes, you should draw a heavy strike............I live 4 miles from an AFB and 7 from a power plant..............guess I am doomed as well 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:41:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stanley, ID Quote HistoryQuoted: Stanley, ID Full. Quoted: Shit. That would be the place to go. Fucking 1,000 square miles of nothing. Just don’t stop on the Rez. … |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:43:12 PM EST
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Unless you live in NoVa or NYC I have you beat.
Norfolk Navy Base (Also where NATO Atlantic HQ is) Little Creek Amphibious Base NAS Oceana Norfolk Navy Shipyard Langley AFB Newport News Shipyard (where the carriers are built) Ft Eustis Ft Story Dam Neck (where the SEALs are based) all are 15 miles or less from me Im so fucked. Here is a pretty depressing simulator to look at https://www.nuclearwarmap.com/simulation01.html |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:43:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were looking for a bomb shelter I’d probably buy one of These. Or, last week someone posted a missile silo in KS that was up for sale. Those bunkers are pretty sweet. 16 Gd'ers per bunker. Sounds like a party.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:45:20 PM EST
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If their nuke inventory works as efficiently as their conventional warfare we’ve watch over the last week, half will land in northern Canadian permafrost and the other half won’t launch.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:46:58 PM EST
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Some of the folks planning to fall back to central ID, spent much time there? Some bonus points if you are a pilot that has ever landed on a short grass strip.
Post-nuke-Mormon-harem might be a solid plan, however. They are all named Amy, so that makes it a little easier. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:48:20 PM EST
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We’re full…
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:50:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before people think their town is a priority target because the hood latch for humvees are made there. Years ago I worked at a nuke plant. I'm fairly certain this type of facility was on the USSR's hit list. I always said, in the event of an all out nuclear exchange between us an the Rooskis, I was going to stand on the roof of the reactor building to await the missiles. I would rather not survive to see the aftermath. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:51:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the southeast corner of Oregon, the northwest corner of Nevada and the southwest corner of Idaho is one of the desolate places in the lower 48. There ain't hardly anything out there Damn skippy. Fucking nothingness. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:51:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are Mormons a priority target for Russia? Have we discovered a way to weaponize them? If you really know Mormons, you would know the threat that they are to any one, or thing that they perceive as an enemy. Taking as many of them out on a first strike would be to the invaders advantage. But, to their credit, they do appear pretty innocuous, and thus a highly underestimated threat. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:52:48 PM EST
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No idea. The peninsula of wisconsin is probably pretty safe im hoping
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Posted: 2/28/2022 9:58:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Idaho has a city named "Moscow," so you will need to watch out for lost American missiles It's pronounced MOSC OH. Because MOSC OW is in Russia. 
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:04:52 PM EST
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Puget Sound area....
Joint base Lewis/McCord Whidbey Island naval air station Bangor Trident Submarine base Bremerton naval repair ship yard Bremerton naval yard Surrounded by various targets.. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:06:01 PM EST
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Northern Minnesota and Wisconsin are the safest places.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:06:47 PM EST
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Parts of WV, maybe north central Pa.
SE Ohio maybe - but you will need to fend off the meth zombies there, regardless nukes or not. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:08:24 PM EST
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Iowa looks pretty safe unless you live in Council Bluffs or Des Moines.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:14:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Utah? Maybe. Much higher potential for average home having preps/stored food, and willingness to share. Idaho? Maybe. Much higher potential for average home having preps/stored food, and a willingness to take yours, too. Absolutely right. I always tell people to choose Utah. Probably best thing. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:16:50 PM EST
[#20]
Happy in SW Idaho.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:19:13 PM EST
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Quoted: I've read this book. Your conclusions were all wrong, Halsey acted stupidly. @bounce19712 What is your book? |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:20:07 PM EST
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For post SHTF morals and teamwork, yeah probably.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:20:34 PM EST
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Quoted: Where are the safest USA areas to be in the event of a nuclear war? Would it take us out or do we have a chance if in a strategic location? Just do whatever people did during the last nuclear war. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:21:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel pretty safe from nukes here in BFE Kansas. Nothing but pasture and farmland for miles and miles. The very center of the US, far from oceans and borders. One of the old Soviet plans was to hit the farmland in the middle of the country with ground burst nukes to maximize fallout and poison the land for generations. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:21:39 PM EST
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:22:51 PM EST
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:24:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in NoVA. I'm assuming we're good because whatever Star Wars/Alien Technological defenses we have, will probably be used here. Good point. There’s also Norfolk that’s a target. I’m not sure how far the nuclear radiation goes. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:28:56 PM EST
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Fallout is everywhere.
Depends on winds. Seasons. Safe areas: West Texas panhandle area? OK panhandle? Who knows. Kansas looks to be covered in fallout on various maps. Except extreme SW corner. I'll pour a bourbon in the basement to down my potassium iodide tabs, and put wet towels around the seals of the doors and windows, and hope for rain, and at least 3 to 4 weeks of nobody coming out that far into the county. Yeah...I know...it's all kinda fantasy at that point. But at that point, all we have is what we've been told might help. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:31:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good point. There’s also Norfolk that’s a target. I’m not sure how far the nuclear radiation goes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm in NoVA. I'm assuming we're good because whatever Star Wars/Alien Technological defenses we have, will probably be used here. Good point. There’s also Norfolk that’s a target. I’m not sure how far the nuclear radiation goes. Prevailing winds will carry radiation from Southeast VA over the Delmarva and into far Southern MD. Most fallout will head to the ocean. Also, the more ground bursts, the more fallout is created. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:37:18 PM EST
[#30]
You actually believe those Russian nukes are all still operational and accurate?
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:39:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Down town Detroit maybe. Wasn't that hit already? Edit Beat, should of known too easy |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:43:53 PM EST
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Rather than get your information from movies and TV - Have any of you recalled we actually did NUKE two Japanese cities and people there didn't end up with a wasteland or go Raod Warrior Assless chaps and Mowhawks.
Most people would be fine in a nuclear war - except the economic impact but many will be surprised it isn't as bad as advertised. After a few days the Neutron activation ground shine will subside it will be good to go in and pull things apart and start to look for survivors rebuild. There is a whole science on this that none of you bother to read - You just saw Terminator 2 and use that as a gauge. |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:46:51 PM EST
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I'd venture MT, West and North a bit of the missile complexes. Absolutely nothing of bombing value up there and prevailing winds should keep Seattle hippy fallout to a minimum.
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:53:57 PM EST
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Um sure?
INEL, Mountain Home AF base, Gowen Field with the 190th. Seems like Idaho probably just as safe as anywhere else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_National_Laboratory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Home_Air_Force_Base https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/190th_Fighter_Squadron |
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Posted: 2/28/2022 10:58:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rather than get your information from movies and TV - Have any of you recalled we actually did NUKE two Japanese cities and people there didn't end up with a wasteland or go Raod Warrior Assless chaps and Mowhawks. Most people would be fine in a nuclear war - except the economic impact but many will be surprised it isn't as bad as advertised. After a few days the Neutron activation ground shine will subside it will be good to go in and pull things apart and start to look for survivors rebuild. There is a whole science on this that none of you bother to read - You just saw Terminator 2 and use that as a gauge. If it were to ever start, I'm guessing there will more than just "two" major US cities hit in an exchange between two nuke powers. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:33:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's pronounced MOSC OH. Because MOSC OW is in Russia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Idaho has a city named "Moscow," so you will need to watch out for lost American missiles It's pronounced MOSC OH. Because MOSC OW is in Russia.  On the bright side, the locals know who the commies and outsiders are. Meat on the hoof and what-not. Kidding...  . |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:39:27 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryInteresting. Lived very near there as a teenager. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:41:28 AM EST
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Posted: 3/1/2022 12:55:49 AM EST
[#39]
Quoted: Where are the safest USA areas to be in the event of a nuclear war? Would it take us out or do we have a chance if in a strategic location? USA you say??? ....forgetabout it! If you survived the blast, the ferral gangs will eat you anyway. If you're so worried, for the next 4-6 weeks go take a vacation somewhere outside of the USA where you were NEVER planning to live. If you are a transient with no job or home, and can just leave, then all power to you! But you can figure it out. (go somewhere that one of the 1,100 nukes that Russia launches wont land near you) Enjoy the 3 year winter and radiation fallout.
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Posted: 3/1/2022 1:06:29 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rather than get your information from movies and TV - Have any of you recalled we actually did NUKE two Japanese cities and people there didn't end up with a wasteland or go Raod Warrior Assless chaps and Mowhawks. Most people would be fine in a nuclear war - except the economic impact but many will be surprised it isn't as bad as advertised. After a few days the Neutron activation ground shine will subside it will be good to go in and pull things apart and start to look for survivors rebuild. There is a whole science on this that none of you bother to read - You just saw Terminator 2 and use that as a gauge. The bombs used on Japan where the strength of today’s small battlefield nukes. The after effects all depend on bomb yield, ground vs air burst, and weather. Yes, most people do over exaggerate what would happen in a nuclear exchange. The psychological effects would cause more damage than the bombs. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 1:20:45 AM EST
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Posted: 3/1/2022 2:19:01 AM EST
[#42]
I live 25 minutes from an international port, and have two shipyards, an AFB and a NAS within an hour east and west.
Completely screwed. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:01:12 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it’s nukes and is mutually assured destruction you don’t want to survive. Go to a sure target and get a front row seat. You won’t feel a thing. Yellowstone volcano is praying for a nuke to help it erupt. One does not simply WANT a nuke explosion in either ID or UT. A short glance at the cracks and holes and subterranean thermal dynamics... Thousand Springs area. Not a good idea for the planet or the US. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:10:48 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before people think their town is a priority target because the hood latch for humvees are made there. That has Always been a really weird phenomenon. It’s something Cliff Clavins always brag about. 
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:42:24 AM EST
[#45]
Figure a city buster nuke on every state capital, several dozen silo busters in the missile fields, smaller nukes on every airfield capable of taking b52s, b-1s or b-2's. Ditto smaller nukes on any place an Ohio or Los Angeles could use, nuke storage, nuke r&d, and every reactor in the country.
Although, to be fair, small and nuke is a misnomer of the highest order. Mine gap... fuff. The Kunetka/Streiber fiction/pro-California propaganda screed WARDAY was unlikely then, and far, far more unlikely now. Make no mistake, people. A nuclear exchange is unsurvivable for the target countries in the short (1 sec after launch to 5 years after launch) term, and for most life on the planet in the long term (5-20 years). |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 4:51:47 AM EST
[#46]
If nukes start flying I'll just hope one lands nearby so it's quick and painless.
I think The Road was one of the more realistic depictions of surviving after the nuclear apocalypse. That shit was probably one of the most depressing movies I've watched right up there with Requiem for a Dream. I got no interest in re-enacting that shit. If the nukes don't get me, I'd probably eat a bullet and be done with it. You ain't really surviving for long at that point, and why would you want to anyway? Edit: The Road was actually set after a meteor strike, which seems considerably less shitty than a global nuclear war. And yet, was still entirely shitty. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 5:06:37 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hill AFB will be a target. They have ICBM squadrons there. Maybe if you got high up in the mountains. I don’t think there are many safe places to be. Then there’s the fallout to contend with after the strike. A nuclear war is why I spent much of my childhood and teen year with a sort of low level fear during the Cold War. I haven’t had that feeling since the late 80’s and now all of the sudden it’s back. Putin is a major asshole. Remember, at his heart is is all about Communism and worships at the altar of Lenin. Same shit commies in this country want. That same ideology drives them to do horrific things. Scares the hell out of me. No ICBM squadrons, but it’s a maintenance depot for the missiles. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 5:08:54 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm to the north next to Ft. Warren AFB and all of these missile silos. Magic 8 ball says it doesn't look good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Im in between Buckley AFB and Cheyenne Mountain....its going to get both bright and warm in my AO. I'm to the north next to Ft. Warren AFB and all of these missile silos. Magic 8 ball says it doesn't look good. I’m down wind of the 300+ ground bursts that would target those silos, far enough not to be killed by the initial blast. I’d say you’re better off than me. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 5:10:09 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If nukes start flying I'll just hope one lands nearby so it's quick and painless. I think The Road was one of the more realistic depictions of surviving after the nuclear apocalypse. That shit was probably one of the most depressing movies I've watched right up there with Requiem for a Dream. I got no interest in re-enacting that shit. If the nukes don't get me, I'd probably eat a bullet and be done with it. You ain't really surviving for long at that point, and why would you want to anyway? Edit: The Road was actually set after a meteor strike, which seems considerably less shitty than a global nuclear war. And yet, was still entirely shitty. You (like many others) over estimate the power of nukes. The meteor strike that caused the conditions in The Road had several orders of magnitude more energy release than all of the world’s nukes combined. ETA: Meteor strike I'd take a little nuclear war any day over that. |
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Posted: 3/1/2022 5:17:50 AM EST
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Jericho, Kansas.
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