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Posted: 1/15/2018 10:57:05 AM EDT
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World War I uniforms were dyed by bois d'arc.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 10:57:20 AM EDT
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Interesting I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 The spring transmits the shock into your hands, imho. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:07:53 AM EDT
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It doesn't have to be knot free to make a bow.
Many boyers will use it, knots and all. Tillering it is a bit tricky though. Hard as woodpecker lips! |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:34:45 AM EDT
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I've seen people make wedges out of it. Whittle yourself a bow
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:50:02 AM EDT
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They’re tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:50:23 AM EDT
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The tree has some uses as outlined above. However, nobody mentioned the best part of the tree. It was these fuckers and they hurt like a mofo in neighborhood fights. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Osage_orange_1.jpg |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:51:40 AM EDT
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They are very popular markers for metes and bounds descriptions in old property surveys. The wood is very resinous and lasts outdoors quite a while.
Also known as: osage orange, bodark, horseapple, etc. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:54:00 AM EDT
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:56:00 AM EDT
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World War I uniforms were dyed by bois d'arc. That makes sense though. It permanently stains my jeans anytime I mess with it. 
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Posted: 1/15/2018 11:56:24 AM EDT
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What makes them good bow material, makes them not so good at impact tool handles. The spring transmits the shock into your hands, imho. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 The spring transmits the shock into your hands, imho. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:00:00 PM EDT
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They’re tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower. Bottom gun: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154165/C0F812D5-012D-4470-B8AB-67BE45FB0684-421131.JPG I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:03:12 PM EDT
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It doesn't have to be knot free to make a bow. Many boyers will use it, knots and all. Tillering it is a bit tricky though. Hard as woodpecker lips! Then I was like "Oh, yea dumbass". Not a term I have heard in many years. The log we drug up out of the creek a few years ago had an interesting looking knot. I cut through it to see if it had any interesting patterns. What a pain. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:06:07 PM EDT
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I've seen people make wedges out of it. Whittle yourself a bow One more project to add to the list. Most likely, I am going to determine the proper cut sizes for the various uses and cut it up while still green and then store them away in the wood shed. Sounds like a good future project for the grand kids. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:07:26 PM EDT
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Wait, those are Osage Oranges? We have some of those up here. Big ones every so often along a road shoulder. Didn't even occur to me they might be Osage Orange because it's not their natural range, and who would ship that up here for fence posts when we have black locust all over the place? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The tree has some uses as outlined above. However, nobody mentioned the best part of the tree. It was these fuckers and they hurt like a mofo in neighborhood fights. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Osage_orange_1.jpg I would much rather deal with bois d'arc. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:08:30 PM EDT
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Grips are an interesting idea. I see that in addition to being hard as fuck, bois d'arc wood is very dimensionally stable. I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They're tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower. Bottom gun: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154165/C0F812D5-012D-4470-B8AB-67BE45FB0684-421131.JPG I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? 
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:10:27 PM EDT
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Bois d'arc-Osage Orange-Hedge Wood is great for burning in your Wood Stove (Not so much for your fireplace, sparks a lot)
I burn it exclusively on cold days in the winter time. Produces lots of heat for a long time. It is a very dense wood with 32.9 million BTUs per cord dry. It can also be burnt wet, cut a live tree down and throw it in the stove the same day. I don't know of many other woods you can do that with. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Grips are an interesting idea. I see that in addition to being hard as fuck, bois d'arc wood is very dimensionally stable. I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such?
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:11:35 PM EDT
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iirc the Foxfire books recommend Bois d'arc for the sill logs building log cabins. Will not rot. OP I'd be anxious to have a few of those fruit next season - planting for a hedgerow. Pruned & trained, it makes a pretty famously tough fence row that keeps the most determined animals in (or out). I have know idea when the right season for collecting is but they are all over out along the creek right now. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:13:22 PM EDT
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Grips are an interesting idea. I see that in addition to being hard as fuck, bois d'arc wood is very dimensionally stable. I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They’re tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower. Bottom gun: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154165/C0F812D5-012D-4470-B8AB-67BE45FB0684-421131.JPG I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:13:41 PM EDT
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Is it artisanally and organically handmade by an old blind veteran living in an old winery he is restoring by hand? Because I'd pay like $300 for those grips Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:17:55 PM EDT
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The horse apples are fun .22 targets.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:20:05 PM EDT
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great, now i fell down a youtube rabbit hole watching guys make bows from some wood I didn't know about
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't say I'd buy them; I was wondering if someone would. :) I have no qualms whatsoever selling people something they want - and there are a shit ton of old fence posts and lumber laying around this part of the Ozarks. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:25:09 PM EDT
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My Great Great Grandfather sold them for fence posts in the 1870 and 1890s. So there are some fences in North Central Texas that have 400 yeas to go on there fences.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:25:15 PM EDT
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I've used it for knife handles.
I have also built cabinets, window and door casing and baseboard out of it. 
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:26:10 PM EDT
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:28:15 PM EDT
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I've used it for knife handles. <a href="https://postimg.org/image/nnnhc8d9n/"></a>https://s25.postimg.org/6n4l3k08f/2017-08-07_17.55.09.jpg <a href="https://postimg.org/image/sqfsaht3f/"></a>https://s25.postimg.org/j5w5nm3rj/2017-12-17_16.49.05.jpg I have also built cabinets, window and door casing and baseboard out of it. <a href="https://postimg.org/image/h9ye8zg3f/"></a>https://s25.postimg.org/u1ckfhpvj/2018-01-15_10.18.58.jpg Those cabinets will last forever 
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:31:00 PM EDT
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Well, there's a junk store there and a house that should be used in a horror film before it falls in. Other than that, it's only a couple of miles from a pretty nice fudd range.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:31:07 PM EDT
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I have no doubt that they would. The ones in the picture were embarrassingly inexpensive but don’t fit the greatest. Supposedly the wood changes from yellow to dark orange or amber over time through exposure to UV light. Could be a cool experiment with some grow lights or a tanning bed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They’re tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower. Bottom gun: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154165/C0F812D5-012D-4470-B8AB-67BE45FB0684-421131.JPG I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:32:48 PM EDT
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"No officer, those grow lights are for aging hand gun grips" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have some grips made out of Osage Orange. I like the trees. They’re tough, prolific and have an interesting history. Most of the fence rows with hedge trees in them that you see are approaching 100 years old. The green balls keep the kids entertained and are digested easily by the mower. Bottom gun: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/154165/C0F812D5-012D-4470-B8AB-67BE45FB0684-421131.JPG I wonder if people would pay a premium for grips made of "reclaimed" bois d'arc from old fenceposts and such? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:34:02 PM EDT
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Knife scales.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:37:54 PM EDT
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Knife scales. Might have to pull some of the larger branches back off the burn pile
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:39:59 PM EDT
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The tree has some uses as outlined above. However, nobody mentioned the best part of the tree. It was these fuckers and they hurt like a mofo in neighborhood fights. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Osage_orange_1.jpg |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:43:10 PM EDT
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It's great for duck calls. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 12:55:01 PM EDT
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Make good knife handles as well. A simple knife commissioned with customer provided Osage Orange.
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Posted: 1/15/2018 1:05:05 PM EDT
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I have a bunch of research to do this week regarding various "blank" sizes for green wood. Might have to pull some of the larger branches back off the burn pile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Knife scales. Might have to pull some of the larger branches back off the burn pile 
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Posted: 1/15/2018 1:11:52 PM EDT
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I bought a bunch of it from a guy years ago that said it was so hard to cut it threw sparks on the band mill. I figured he just ran through some nails but it is hard as hell so who knows. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 1:33:24 PM EDT
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I can, uh, aid you in your research. Nudge, nudge,
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Knife scales. Might have to pull some of the larger branches back off the burn pile
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:17:37 PM EDT
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Should I start puttting up my trees on the EE now?
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:21:40 PM EDT
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Should I start puttting up my trees on the EE now? Who knew? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:34:12 PM EDT
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He's in Ohio, and would know this as Osage Orange trees Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:37:14 PM EDT
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Yeah. I had no idea...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 Not good for handles due to springiness? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:42:22 PM EDT
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Same question, Osage Orange. Not good for handles due to springiness? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 Not good for handles due to springiness? I sell axe handles on EBay that are hickory and thinner than the other handle companies will sell. This is specifically for shock absorption and ergos. I don't muscle my axes. They are a weight on a string to me. I can still swing hard. I just don't try to drive it hard all the way through impact. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:53:53 PM EDT
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I like shock absorption in a handle but I don't have any experience with Osage Orange in an axe handle. I'd love to have a piece to create an axe handle out of but I don't have any good sources. I sell axe handles on EBay that are hickory and thinner than the other handle companies will sell. This is specifically for shock absorption and ergos. I don't muscle my axes. They are a weight on a string to me. I can still swing hard. I just don't try to drive it hard all the way through impact. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Caddo used them to make bows. I wonder if they make good handles for shovels and axes and such. @batmanacw @fatcat4620 Not good for handles due to springiness? I sell axe handles on EBay that are hickory and thinner than the other handle companies will sell. This is specifically for shock absorption and ergos. I don't muscle my axes. They are a weight on a string to me. I can still swing hard. I just don't try to drive it hard all the way through impact. Might have to let it dry for a few years. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:55:59 PM EDT
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Right? Who knew? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:56:51 PM EDT
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It's great for duck calls. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 2:59:59 PM EDT
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I know the thorns on the honey locusts tree have been used as nails. Maybe we should start selling those to hippies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right? Who knew? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 3:01:49 PM EDT
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I know the thorns on the honey locusts tree have been used as nails. Maybe we should start selling those to hippies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right? Who knew? If I could generate hipster interest in them, maybe they would come and eradicate them for me. I HATE LOCUST TREES! Removing them is like trying to fight a Freddy Krueger/Edward Scissor hands hybrid Zombie. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 3:03:04 PM EDT
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Fookin locust trees. If I could generate hipster interest in them, maybe they would come and eradicate them for me. I HATE LOCUST TREES! Removing them is like trying to fight a Freddy Krueger/Edward Scissor hands hybrid Zombie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Right? Who knew? If I could generate hipster interest in them, maybe they would come and eradicate them for me. I HATE LOCUST TREES! Removing them is like trying to fight a Freddy Krueger/Edward Scissor hands hybrid Zombie. |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 3:06:42 PM EDT
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Fookin locust trees. If I could generate hipster interest in them, maybe they would come and eradicate them for me. I HATE LOCUST TREES! Removing them is like trying to fight a Freddy Krueger/Edward Scissor hands hybrid Zombie. 
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