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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:27:59 AM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:28:36 AM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:28:51 AM EDT
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:29:28 AM EDT
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Well... It's not possible to do anything without being called racist.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:30:03 AM EDT
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I predict a 4 page thread in 5 hrs.
What's the under/over? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:31:12 AM EDT
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:31:41 AM EDT
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How old are you, OP?
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:32:19 AM EDT
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I was born in 1989 |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:32:41 AM EDT
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We have fewer freedoms and more laws today because of changing demographics and a severe lack of morality. In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relative strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction. Now? We aren't heading the same direction. There is no moral compass (as a nation). Whites are no longer a true majority and our way of life had been diluted by intense immigration (legal and illegal) and a sharpe rise in socialist/collectivist ideals. I guess you could throw in the number of people addicted to drugs/opioids as well. Maybe the change from national/local newspapers and 30 minute TV shows, to the instant/worldwide 24/7 news and social media engine of hype/hysteria? I guess what I'm wondering here is, is the changing demographics of race/culture the largest part of why we can't do a lot of things we used to be able to do? Or am I missing the mark and other factors are more influential on this? The "moral compass" of the 1950s pointed in the wrong direction in some areas. In some areas, black kids were not allowed to white-only schools, for example. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:32:57 AM EDT
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A few years back in my sociology class, we were discussing a poll on crime that was given to school children (I believe 10-12 years old). The basic question asked was “Why shouldn’t you murder/steal/assault” etc.
Most popular answer amongst Caucasian children was “Because murdering/stealing etc is wrong.” Most popular answer amongst African American children was “Because you’ll go to jail.” Now, I’m an adult, middle age, who returned to school. About 5% of my class are similar. The remaining 95% are pretty much recent high school grads. They were shocked and dismayed by the poll results. Myself, dismayed but not shocked or surprised. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:33:53 AM EDT
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No sorry, that's outside the Overton Window for modern thought. You will be shunned from the tribe.
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum...." |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:35:30 AM EDT
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Could you make the argument? Yes. The "moral compass" of the 1950s pointed in the wrong direction in some areas. In some areas, black kids were not allowed to white-only schools, for example. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:36:24 AM EDT
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I was born in 1989 so that’s entirely possible. But it sure seems like the world wasn’t one big nanny state. PC culture wasn’t at full speed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:36:25 AM EDT
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A caveat I’d like to add to the discussion
OBVIOUSLY we are individuals and capable of unique thoughts and actions and there are no 100% truths. When I mention race, I am generalizing on cultural norms which follow along racial lines and you’d be stupid if you don’t realize that. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:36:46 AM EDT
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I don't care if it is racist or not...I am more concerned if it is true or not.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:37:04 AM EDT
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We have fewer freedoms and more laws today because of changing demographics and a severe lack of morality. In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relatively strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction. Now? We aren't heading the same direction. There is no moral compass (as a nation). Whites are no longer a true majority and our way of life had been diluted by intense immigration (legal and illegal) and a sharpe rise in socialist/collectivist ideals. I guess you could throw in the number of people addicted to drugs/opioids as well. Maybe the change from national/local newspapers and 30 minute TV shows, to the instant/worldwide 24/7 news and social media engine of hype/hysteria? I guess what I'm wondering here is, is the changing demographics of race/culture the largest part of why we can't do a lot of things we used to be able to do? Or am I missing the mark and other factors are more influential on this? they all have to be fighting for the minority all the time, wether it be racial or gays or whatever they seem to forget where the money comes from for all the "good" they think they are doing some day when the majority has had enough it will change just like it did before short answer to your question = NO |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:38:26 AM EDT
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It’s true but you will definitely be called racist.
You have to get over it, probably the greatest propaganda win the left has pulled off is convincing people that they have to ignore reality if reality reflects badly on non-whites or women. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:38:29 AM EDT
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You Nailed it.
You sound racist at the very least. Ever considered it might be the number of people. Jobs, traffic, that good fishing spot. I remember camping in Yosemite without reservations. Camp at the beach. No problem. Think about what you remember and how it's been affected by the masses. Idiots have been here the entire time. Now there is a whole lot more. Edit to add... 89.JFC |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:38:40 AM EDT
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seems to me the big problem today is that the leadership in this country doesn't give a shit about the majority anymore they all have to be fighting for the minority all the time, wether it be racial or gays or whatever they seem to forget where the money comes from for all the "good" they think they are doing some day when the majority has had enough it will change just like it did before Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We have fewer freedoms and more laws today because of changing demographics and a severe lack of morality. In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relatively strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction. Now? We aren't heading the same direction. There is no moral compass (as a nation). Whites are no longer a true majority and our way of life had been diluted by intense immigration (legal and illegal) and a sharpe rise in socialist/collectivist ideals. I guess you could throw in the number of people addicted to drugs/opioids as well. Maybe the change from national/local newspapers and 30 minute TV shows, to the instant/worldwide 24/7 news and social media engine of hype/hysteria? I guess what I'm wondering here is, is the changing demographics of race/culture the largest part of why we can't do a lot of things we used to be able to do? Or am I missing the mark and other factors are more influential on this? they all have to be fighting for the minority all the time, wether it be racial or gays or whatever they seem to forget where the money comes from for all the "good" they think they are doing some day when the majority has had enough it will change just like it did before |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:39:51 AM EDT
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Demographics are a big part now, but the US as cultural continuation of the English civil war is earlier and larger IMO.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:40:03 AM EDT
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's.
But the loss of freedoms, and lack of morality, general societal decay has to do more with the drift away from the Judeo-Christian and nuclear family values. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:41:17 AM EDT
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...one CoC after another...I got nothing.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:42:34 AM EDT
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Just starting this thread means you a racist.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:43:05 AM EDT
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's. But the loss of freedoms, and lack of morality, general societal decay has to do more with the drift away from the Judeo-Christian and nuclear family values. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:43:18 AM EDT
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Just starting this thread means you a racist. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:44:15 AM EDT
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:44:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:44:52 AM EDT
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...........some day when the majority has had enough it will change just like it did before....... The pendulum will swing, it always has. Honestly, I'd rather not be here to see it. History demonstrates it is a ruthless, bloody reset...... YMMV |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:45:06 AM EDT
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The difference is the decline in the influence of Christianity. Whether or not there is a God and whether or not Joel Olstein sucks are beside the point. The Amercial culture had a morality standard based on Christianity. It worked pretty well over all. Now it is mostly erased and things don't work as well.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:45:22 AM EDT
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It's both a racist argument, in the true meaning of the word, and factually incorrect.
ETA: Just saw the born in '89 part, lol. OP, the worldview you and most others who share your viewpoint have adopted as the "natural state" of America derives from the years of about 1948-61. It's literally 13 years, give or take a year, and derives solely from post WW2 prosperity. Even then, it has to exclude the deep south. Outside of that little time bubble, America has always known trouble and strife, sometimes geographically isolated but often severe. In fact, the years you have been alive have been better than any others outside that little 13-year bubble. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:45:31 AM EDT
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In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relatively strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction.
False premise. Pretty ridiculous to be honest. Honor? Headed the same direction? No way. Worse now? Yes. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:46:16 AM EDT
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided.
It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:47:44 AM EDT
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. This is the typical answer for those that don't know better. Probably the only thing better now are gun rights, for some states, worse for others. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:48:09 AM EDT
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:48:17 AM EDT
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's. For example, there appears to have been no effect on the violent behavior rate of blacks after generations of living in a structured, wealthy society.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:48:28 AM EDT
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Could you make the argument? Yes. The "moral compass" of the 1950s pointed in the wrong direction in some areas. In some areas, black kids were not allowed to white-only schools, for example. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:49:48 AM EDT
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A caveat I’d like to add to the discussion OBVIOUSLY we are individuals and capable of unique thoughts and actions and there are no 100% truths. When I mention race, I am generalizing on cultural norms which follow along racial lines and you’d be stupid if you don’t realize that.  Nearly all of them are white. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:49:53 AM EDT
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Everything is racist these days if you are white. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:51:33 AM EDT
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That said, we have more laws because that's what governments do. They don't spend half of the session looking for bullshit to cut from the code. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Violent crime in America is overwhelmingly a non-white, non-European, phenomenon. Do even a modicum of research, and you find that the numbers are comically lopsided. It wouldn't be difficult at all to back up the argument in the OP with hard data. The bottom line is, diversity has been an absolute disaster for this country. Needless to say, making this argument would get you branded a racist in .2 fucking seconds. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:56:09 AM EDT
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In the 50s-90s, America was a majority White/Caucasian/Christian population that had a relatively strong moral compass. There was honor, responsibility, and we all were heading the same direction. False premise. Pretty ridiculous to be honest. Honor? Headed the same direction? No way. Worse now? Yes. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 10:58:22 AM EDT
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But they were better. This is the typical answer for those that don't know better. Probably the only thing better now are gun rights, for some states, worse for others. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The good old days weren't as good as you think they were. This is the typical answer for those that don't know better. Probably the only thing better now are gun rights, for some states, worse for others. Things aren't better now, things aren't much worse, there are more bullshit laws, and more people to disagree with, and a quicker spread of information to make it seem worse than in the past. We've always been at odds with each other.  
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:00:15 AM EDT
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It's a good thing that it has become unacceptable to assault someone because they are black, jewish, gay, or whatever.
The sad part is, is that hate laws have had to be enacted to accomplish this. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:01:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:02:31 AM EDT
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's. But the loss of freedoms, and lack of morality, general societal decay has to do more with the drift away from the Judeo-Christian and nuclear family values. - The government gives poor people more money if they aren't married. That results in more unmarried people, and more one-parent families. - The government will provide a "family" $40,000/year in benefits without working. Very few people want to work and earn $40,000/year. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:02:52 AM EDT
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There is no such thing as racist or sexist.
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:03:17 AM EDT
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It's a good thing that it has become unacceptable to assault someone because they are black, jewish, gay, or whatever. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:03:57 AM EDT
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Most of the societal rot has resulted from government programs. For example: - The government gives poor people more money if they aren't married. That results in more unmarried people, and more one-parent families. - The government will provide a "family" $40,000/year in benefits without working. Very few people want to work and earn $40,000/year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Racially, there has been progress since the 50's. But the loss of freedoms, and lack of morality, general societal decay has to do more with the drift away from the Judeo-Christian and nuclear family values. - The government gives poor people more money if they aren't married. That results in more unmarried people, and more one-parent families. - The government will provide a "family" $40,000/year in benefits without working. Very few people want to work and earn $40,000/year. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:07:36 AM EDT
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And show how is is "better" now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could you make the argument? Yes. The "moral compass" of the 1950s pointed in the wrong direction in some areas. In some areas, black kids were not allowed to white-only schools, for example. 
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:11:47 AM EDT
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"Morality"? The people at the top dont care, perhaps never cared, about morality. With all the Bullshit people in power get away with its a wonder that America isnt more of a shit show.
Thinking the past had more morality than now is crazy. MKultra anyone? Ford's treatment of Ralph Nader? |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 11:12:49 AM EDT
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That's just your opinion. Others might say it was morally wrong to force integration before people could naturally adjust to it. Spoiler Alert: groups naturally segregate and blacks want it the most. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could you make the argument? Yes. The "moral compass" of the 1950s pointed in the wrong direction in some areas. In some areas, black kids were not allowed to white-only schools, for example. The part that catches my attention the most isn't the cluster and hive mind, of like kind, it's the cluster and hive mind that appears to be based on like kind being based on skin color vs like mental aptitude. |
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