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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:43:49 PM EDT
[#1]
In before 6.5 Grendel.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:45:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Why that over a 6.5 Grendel, especially if you handload? (Honestly asking, not trying to stir caliber shit). Bullet selection of .264 vs .277 is what swayed me to a Grendel, among other reasons. Just curious what the appeal of a 6.8 is for you.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:45:51 PM EDT
[#3]
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In before 6.5 Grendel.  Only just. I tried.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:46:57 PM EDT
[#4]
I jumped on the 6.8 bandwagon early, when it and the 6.5 grendel were still in competition, and it seems the Grendel has won out in recent years. I own a 6.8 and it is a great round, but were I to do it again today I'd go with the Grendel.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:49:33 PM EDT
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I like mine but if I had to do it over again I'd have went 6.5 just because getting ammo is easier. I figure as many deer as I've killed with it (it's absolutely fantastic on deer btw) if it comes to swapping a bbl and bolt for another caliber, I've already got my money's worth.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:51:05 PM EDT
[#6]
No way
6.5g ETA: instrted with .277 wolverine and sold the parts |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:51:48 PM EDT
[#7]
Grendel all the way.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:52:14 PM EDT
[#8]
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I jumped on the 6.8 bandwagon early, when it and the 6.5 grendel were still in competition, and it seems the Grendel has won out in recent years. I own a 6.8 and it is a great round, but were I to do it again today I'd go with the Grendel. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:52:47 PM EDT
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Isn't the Army working on some sort of hyperdrive-powered, quantum-tunneled round? I have read that it "has the pressure of a tank".
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:53:23 PM EDT
[#10]
I went and built 2 Grendels and am now on a third.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:54:00 PM EDT
[#11]
light weight 6.5 creedmoor.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 8:59:18 PM EDT
[#12]
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I jumped on the 6.8 bandwagon early, when it and the 6.5 grendel were still in competition, and it seems the Grendel has won out in recent years. I own a 6.8 and it is a great round, but were I to do it again today I'd go with the Grendel. I tried to jump on the 6.8 bandwagon early; after all, it was developed by the .mil and determined to be the "best" caliber that could be stuffed into an AR-15 frame; 270 projos are nothing to sneeze at. I say tried because I kept waiting for LMT to come out with a 6.8 barrel...and I waited...and waited...and eventually my decision was OBE. And I am thankful it was; 6.5 Grendel and Creedmoor are (currently  ) the way to go.
Anyone want to buy any 6.8 SPC marked lowers? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:00:46 PM EDT
[#13]
No particular reason I settled on the 6.8, I just wondering is all. Sounds like the grendel is the way to go. I'll look in to that one as well.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:02:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Because sending a 95 grain Barnes TTSX at 2900+ FPS out of a 16" barrel is awesome.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:03:52 PM EDT
[#15]
Love my deer killing 6.8, but 500 yds seems optimistic to me. Then again I can't see much over 200 where I hunt.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:05:36 PM EDT
[#16]
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Isn't the Army working on some sort of hyperdrive-powered, quantum-tunneled round? I have read that it "has the pressure of a tank". OP, check out the Grendel thread in the precision rifle forum for some data to back up some of what people are saying in here. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:06:41 PM EDT
[#17]
 I've had a 6.8 SPC AR for about 10 years.I'm completely happy with the rifle but if I had it to do over would do 6.5 Grendel. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:07:27 PM EDT
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I was originally invested in the 6.8 and loved it. Shot the shit out of it. Killed tons of deer, coyotes, etc. Wherever I went, I could find a box of Federal Fusions in a pinch.
Then I decided to switch to 556 for anything smaller than whitetail. 308 for deer and up. Now I've got real interest in 6.5 Grendel. Particularly in a pistol setup with Accupower 1-8 and hand loads. Try either one but I'm guessing 6.5 is here to stay. 6.8 may go to the wayside. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:09:12 PM EDT
[#19]
Built mine just for whitetail, works well and is a fun round.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:10:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you in the right thread? OP, check out the Grendel thread in the precision rifle forum for some data to back up some of what people are saying in here. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:14:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I jumped on the 6.8 bandwagon early. Got a SBR LWRC and have killed several deer out to 290 yards and a bunch of hogs.
If I did not already have a 6.8 it would be the 6.5 Grendel for sure. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:16:59 PM EDT
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I have a 9 inch (early Spikes Compressor upper) and a 16 inch in 6.8.
Recently did a 6.5 Grendel in 12 inch. (Thanks Fortier )
I prefer the Grendel for the added distance it allows you to reach in shorter package, but to be quite frank, inside 300 the 6.8 is hitting pretty hard. Whitetails definitely don't like 6.8. 
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:18:32 PM EDT
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Are you in the right thread? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:21:10 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm in the right thread. OP is thinking of building a 6.8 SPC. There's about to be a new 6.8 cartridge (probably)....(maybe). Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are you in the right thread? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:21:44 PM EDT
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Isn't the Army working on some sort of hyperdrive-powered, quantum-tunneled round? I have read that it "has the pressure of a tank". A.W.D. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:22:46 PM EDT
[#26]
It's worth building a 6.5 grendel
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Posted: 1/3/2019 9:23:01 PM EDT
[#27]
I love my 6.8. It’s my favorite AR and en excellent hunting round.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:08:53 PM EDT
[#28]
I'm a 6.8 user, I knew of the 6.5 at the time but still chose the 6.8 and stocked up on SSA ammo when they were still pumping out their tactical 110gr. soft points. I prefer the case dimension/profile over the 6.5g and I'm not a >300yard shooter anyway, not even with my .30-06.
People talk like the 6.8spc is going extinct, it is not, I can find ammo all day long on-line and usually at the local Wal-Mart too. It is not produced by wolf, but it's not quality match ammo anyway, plinking ammo. If Wolf produced ammo in 6.8spc I'd probably pick some up just to have as well. I like to remind people of the development of the 6.8 where various calibers were tested and although the 6.5 exhibited the best accuracy, the 7mm proved to be the most destructive. The 6.8 was found to have the best compromise in accuracy and destructiveness. I don't fault people for choosing whatever caliber they choose, but I wince whenever people bash others' choices in caliber. There is always a better caliber out there for whatever metric you might be gauging one by. Since the 6.8 and 6.5g were introduced there has been this unabated hostility by the 6.5g crowd towards the 6.8spc users, that has helped fortify my allegiance to the 6.8spc as well. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:18:01 PM EDT
[#29]
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I'm a 6.8 user, I knew of the 6.5 at the time but still chose the 6.8 and stocked up on SSA ammo when they were still pumping out their tactical 110gr. soft points. I prefer the case dimension/profile over the 6.5g and I'm not a >300yard shooter anyway, not even with my .30-06. People talk like the 6.8spc is going extinct, it is not, I can find ammo all day long on-line and usually at the local Wal-Mart too. It is not produced by wolf, but it's not quality match ammo anyway, plinking ammo. If Wolf produced ammo in 6.8spc I'd probably pick some up just to have as well. I like to remind people of the development of the 6.8 where various calibers were tested and although the 6.5 exhibited the best accuracy, the 7mm proved to be the most destructive. The 6.8 was found to have the best compromise in accuracy and destructiveness. I haven't seen any hostility. The 6.5 G has superior external ballistics. It's not about anything else. I don't fault people for choosing whatever caliber they choose, but I wince whenever people bash others' choices in caliber. There is always a better caliber out there for whatever metric you might be gauging one by. Since the 6.8 and 6.5g were introduced there has been this unabated hostility by the 6.5g crowd towards the 6.8spc users, that has helped fortify my allegiance to the 6.8spc as well. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:20:25 PM EDT
[#30]
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I'm a 6.8 user, I knew of the 6.5 at the time but still chose the 6.8 and stocked up on SSA ammo when they were still pumping out their tactical 110gr. soft points. I prefer the case dimension/profile over the 6.5g and I'm not a >300yard shooter anyway, not even with my .30-06. People talk like the 6.8spc is going extinct, it is not, I can find ammo all day long on-line and usually at the local Wal-Mart too. It is not produced by wolf, but it's not quality match ammo anyway, plinking ammo. If Wolf produced ammo in 6.8spc I'd probably pick some up just to have as well. I like to remind people of the development of the 6.8 where various calibers were tested and although the 6.5 exhibited the best accuracy, the 7mm proved to be the most destructive. The 6.8 was found to have the best compromise in accuracy and destructiveness. I don't fault people for choosing whatever caliber they choose, but I wince whenever people bash others' choices in caliber. There is always a better caliber out there for whatever metric you might be gauging one by. Since the 6.8 and 6.5g were introduced there has been this unabated hostility by the 6.5g crowd towards the 6.8spc users, that has helped fortify my allegiance to the 6.8spc as well. I found this article, it was pretty informative. These rounds are nearly identical out to 500 yds. 6.5g vs 6.8 spc Edit: 6.5g holds the wind better, and drops less past 500 yds. & 6.5g ammo is definitely cheaper. This holds more sway for me, as I am not a reloader. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 10:28:43 PM EDT
[#31]
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Well, I'm new to this debate, so no hate from me for any of them. I found this article, it was pretty informative. These rounds are nearly identical out to 500 yds. 6.5g vs 6.8 spc Edit: 6.5g holds the wind better, and drops less past 500 yds. & 6.5g ammo is definitely cheaper. This holds more sway for me, as I am not a reloader. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a 6.8 user, I knew of the 6.5 at the time but still chose the 6.8 and stocked up on SSA ammo when they were still pumping out their tactical 110gr. soft points. I prefer the case dimension/profile over the 6.5g and I'm not a >300yard shooter anyway, not even with my .30-06. People talk like the 6.8spc is going extinct, it is not, I can find ammo all day long on-line and usually at the local Wal-Mart too. It is not produced by wolf, but it's not quality match ammo anyway, plinking ammo. If Wolf produced ammo in 6.8spc I'd probably pick some up just to have as well. I like to remind people of the development of the 6.8 where various calibers were tested and although the 6.5 exhibited the best accuracy, the 7mm proved to be the most destructive. The 6.8 was found to have the best compromise in accuracy and destructiveness. I don't fault people for choosing whatever caliber they choose, but I wince whenever people bash others' choices in caliber. There is always a better caliber out there for whatever metric you might be gauging one by. Since the 6.8 and 6.5g were introduced there has been this unabated hostility by the 6.5g crowd towards the 6.8spc users, that has helped fortify my allegiance to the 6.8spc as well. I found this article, it was pretty informative. These rounds are nearly identical out to 500 yds. 6.5g vs 6.8 spc Edit: 6.5g holds the wind better, and drops less past 500 yds. & 6.5g ammo is definitely cheaper. This holds more sway for me, as I am not a reloader. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:22:14 PM EDT
[#32]
6.8spc is good for hunting and 6.5 for shooting at imagery targets most people can’t see them , have to have a $$high$$ optic and very few ranges have over 200-300 yards any way
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:27:45 PM EDT
[#33]
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Anyone want to buy any 6.8 SPC marked lowers? |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:33:48 PM EDT
[#34]
I was an early adopter because I wanted a better sbr round. Now a days 5.56 ammo does a good enough job. Therefore I wouldn’t do it again unless I needed a round bigger than .224 diameter for deer hunting. 6.8 still makes a great 300 yard deer round for the ar15.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:35:43 PM EDT
[#35]
nope.. go big (50 cal ) or go home.
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:36:44 PM EDT
[#36]
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Well, I'm new to this debate, so no hate from me for any of them. I found this article, it was pretty informative. These rounds are nearly identical out to 500 yds. 6.5g vs 6.8 spc Edit: 6.5g holds the wind better, and drops less past 500 yds. & 6.5g ammo is definitely cheaper. This holds more sway for me, as I am not a reloader. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:38:21 PM EDT
[#37]
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I'm a 6.8 user, I knew of the 6.5 at the time but still chose the 6.8 and stocked up on SSA ammo when they were still pumping out their tactical 110gr. soft points. I prefer the case dimension/profile over the 6.5g and I'm not a >300yard shooter anyway, not even with my .30-06. People talk like the 6.8spc is going extinct, it is not, I can find ammo all day long on-line and usually at the local Wal-Mart too. It is not produced by wolf, but it's not quality match ammo anyway, plinking ammo. If Wolf produced ammo in 6.8spc I'd probably pick some up just to have as well. I like to remind people of the development of the 6.8 where various calibers were tested and although the 6.5 exhibited the best accuracy, the 7mm proved to be the most destructive. The 6.8 was found to have the best compromise in accuracy and destructiveness. I don't fault people for choosing whatever caliber they choose, but I wince whenever people bash others' choices in caliber. There is always a better caliber out there for whatever metric you might be gauging one by. Since the 6.8 and 6.5g were introduced there has been this unabated hostility by the 6.5g crowd towards the 6.8spc users, that has helped fortify my allegiance to the 6.8spc as well. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:39:27 PM EDT
[#38]
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nope.. go big (50 cal ) or go home. 
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:43:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only the wolf steel cased crap. 6.8 has a wider range of available ammo, especially at LGS's. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:45:30 PM EDT
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Because sending a 95 grain Barnes TTSX at 2900+ FPS out of a 16" barrel is awesome. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:51:08 PM EDT
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Went Grendel, glad I did, would make same choice if given a Mulligan. Excellent short range and SBR round, excellent longer range round. I’m sure the 6.8 is nice, and probably completely functionally interchangeable at shorter distance, but 6.5G is really pretty neat. If I were that worried about an alternative caliber for shorter range thumping, I’d go 7.62X39 (I built one of those too in 10.5”, is hot, but that’s another subject).
I have two 6.5G’s now, I’d be open to building a third or more in the future. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:51:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Yes ??
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:52:34 PM EDT
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nope.. go big (50 cal ) or go home. |
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Posted: 1/3/2019 11:53:37 PM EDT
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A few weeks ago, I spent 4 days hog hunting with my closest friends. We were shooting a mix of 5.56, 300BO, and our oldest, wisest friend shows up with his 6.8spc.
Guess who was dropping hogs DRT with every hit. We are currently all ordering parts to build matching 6.8 uppers with the exact same config so one of our friends can load ammo for us that will preform the exact same so when we need to toss a mag to someone who ran out. Yea, that happened several times, lots of hogs needed killing. This way, everyone is on the same page, and if we run out of ammo 30 minutes away from the camp, we just grab a mag off one of our friends. I have no experience with 6.5 grendel, but from what I have seen, it is a great hog killing round too. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 12:28:49 AM EDT
[#45]
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A few weeks ago, I spent 4 days hog hunting with my closest friends. We were shooting a mix of 5.56, 300BO, and our oldest, wisest friend shows up with his 6.8spc. Guess who was dropping hogs DRT with every hit. We are currently all ordering parts to build matching 6.8 uppers with the exact same config so one of our friends can load ammo for us that will preform the exact same so when we need to toss a mag to someone who ran out. Yea, that happened several times, lots of hogs needed killing. This way, everyone is on the same page, and if we run out of ammo 30 minutes away from the camp, we just grab a mag off one of our friends. I have no experience with 6.5 grendel, but from what I have seen, it is a great hog killing round too. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 12:34:41 AM EDT
[#46]
I'm a 6.8 covert from a .224 Valkyrie fuck up - I do enjoy it. Under 400 yards, I'd take a 6.8, going further 6.5.
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Posted: 1/4/2019 12:57:48 AM EDT
[#47]
I like the 3 I have.
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Posted: 1/4/2019 1:14:19 AM EDT
[#48]
Yes, it is worth it. 6.5 is a good round as well. Both have a good number of factory loads and bullet selection for those that handload. Wolf does make steel cased ammunition in 6.5, so some people may see that as a plus. I, however, wouldn't run steel cased ammo through a barrel from someone like Odin Works or Ballistic Advantage...$250-ish price range...to save a dime or so per shot. My 20" 6.8 is a slaying machine, barrel made by A Company Not To Be Named. 110gr Nosler Accubonds (SSA) go into a ragged cluster at 100 yards. It also likes the SB PTS and HP bullets.....those are my plinkers in my other 16" 6.8 that I've had for about 12 years now. Both of the Federal Fusion loads are pretty accurate in both rifles as well.
Expensive to shoot?....yes it can be. But it depends how you acquire your ammunition, either hand loading or buying factory loads on sale and in volume quantities. 5.56 is my high-volume shooting round. 6.8 is for hunting and the occasional target shooting/practice to confirm zero. |
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Posted: 1/4/2019 3:17:47 AM EDT
[#49]
I think you would might be disappointed with hunting performance at 500 yards. I think 300 would be much more realistic limit.
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Posted: 1/4/2019 9:56:28 AM EDT
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No particular reason I settled on the 6.8, I just wondering is all. Sounds like the grendel is the way to go. I'll look in to that one as well. To get back to your actual question, yes, it is absolutely worth it. I've killed deer with 300BLK, 7mm-08, 6.8, 270win, 308, etc, and 6.8 SPC is terrific. I liked 300BLK but just didn't feel (rightly or wrongly) that it anchored the deer well enough (which is 90% shot placement anyway), didn't love its slow trajectories and didn't love that there is really only one choice of hunting bullet. 6.8 SPC has given me everything *I * was looking for: -Small frame AR compatible -"normal" case profile (i.e. not a short/fat case) -Super easy to shoot, very little recoil -Larger case capacity providing much higher velocities -Oodles of available, cheap, accurate and deadly factory hunting loads -Terrific results on deer-- DRTs from 90gr pills to 120gr pills. (Shot placement is always the #1 factor) -Excellent velocities out of short barrels-- 2750 fps from 90gr Fusion in a 12.5" barrel -High velocities from just 18": 2970fps for the same ammo -Easy to buy parts, cheap sub-moa nitride barrels I don't care about ringing steel at 800 yards or taking shots at live animals past 300 yards. (Like 95% of hunters) -Stooxie |
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