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Posted: 10/23/2019 11:51:44 AM EDT
Just a regular old Mexican who I believe had a student visa and then just stayed once the illegal was no longer in school. No criminal record, no pending criminal charges.
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Suggest they buy a gun and exercise their 2A rights, let NY take care of the rest?
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Lol.
State Police and cops here don't hold them for ICE-said ICE doesn't want to be bothered to come and get 1 or 2,so they get released. |
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Its surprising that a new york lawyer doesnt know that illegals are super citizens in his state.
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Your going to have to deport him yourself. Take him to Canada and make him their problem.
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Its surprising that a new york lawyer doesnt know that illegals are super citizens in his state. View Quote Of course an attorney should be concerned with collateral consequences of civil and criminal proceedings, but futzing around trying to help a client who the cops are after avoid court or get in and out of court without being caught? I have no illegal clients anyway. |
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If we detain an illegal we can call for them to come pick them up. But we are in an area with resources. But I don't think they would show up for a citizen who has no control over the guy. You might be able to give a tip as to their location... Call and ask an agent about it.
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Lol. State Police and cops here don't hold them for ICE-said ICE doesn't want to be bothered to come and get 1 or 2,so they get released. View Quote While I hate it, there are so many millions of them and the system is so backlogged they have to target priorities. Let him catch a few DWIs and they may come knocking. Without a record, fat chance. I mostly only see them get grabbed on multiple DWIs, drug charges, and food stamp or welfare fraud. |
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Call the cops and tell them that person in question is selling drugs. Just make sure it's an anonymous tip...
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See something...say something. Are you sure he's not plotting and you maybe saw him holding a woman chained to a radiator heater as you
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Plant Trump in 2020 stuff in his house and car then call AOC.
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It could be that he illegally overstayed or is going through a legal change in status (c.f.:https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/maintaining-status). Much depends on how the student's (possibly former?) school is handling their SEVIS record, so it is hard to draw any conclusions without direct knowledge of his circumstances.
Local FBI told me that I should alert them or other local LE if I see illegal or suspicious activity occurring. As far as I am aware there aren’t ICE agents looking to bust singular F-1 overstays for simply overstaying; he would likely need to be picked up on greater charges first for his visa overstay to become an issue. |
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Not fond of your neighbor, eh aimless? One too many Dos Equis on the property line...
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send him an interrogatory. ques. Are you a U.S. citizen? etc. Please provide proof of citizenship.
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You can give them a tip, and they may or may not go for followup. ICE won't generally come out for an illegal until they're being held in a jail or prison.
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Did you pay a Mexican to mow your yard and now it's waist high?
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What you'll hear is, "not enough beds." It's a common theme.
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Just a regular old Mexican who I believe had a student visa and then just stayed once the illegal was no longer in school. No criminal record, no pending criminal charges. View Quote |
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Did you pay a Mexican to mow your yard and now it's waist high? View Quote There's a big a Fancy Pants company that has contracts for most of the lawn mowing and snow plowing in my area. They have an office the next town over and have fleets of pick ups, mowers and heavy equipment in multiple garages/barns at the immaculately landscaped headquarters. They descend on our neighborhood during the week when weather is good like an army. Only a couple of people mow their own lawns in my development. They do a great job, have nice new equipment and mowed our lawn for years. One day my wife was home and a smashed up commercial pick up chugs up and parks out front with two mowers and a couple of trimmers on a rack. Tough looking white dude (it's all white dudes doing this stuff around here) hops out with a younger "I'm the under the table helper" man "Hey lady!" "yes?" "I'll mow this place for 2/3 of what them guys from Fancy Pants mowing do it for" "Deal" Yeah he cuts the top off the water shut off valve pipe every six weeks or so. Oh well. My neighbor came over one day, he never comes over. He asks me to come over to his property. My mower guy has been dumping all my clippings in a huge pile on the neighbor's property where it was hidden by some brush. I think "this mower guy is a honey badger" I offered to remove it "No, just tell him to knock it off" Oh my neighbor says that the weird guy who owns the house behind me was wandering around my back yard, mower guy stops "Get the fuck outta here" hops back on and starts mowing again. I pull into the driveway one day and my wife and kids are gathered around a big chunk of machined metal like they found a spaceship. "What's this dad?!" "I don't know but I bet it used to be part of a zero turn lawn mower, throw it in the truck kids" |
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I thought being an illegal was a criminal record...hence the descriptive “illegal”.
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Not in my experience.
I have one in my town right now that has a detainer warrant for ICE. She has been arrested FOUR times now, and the jail has to hold her until ICE says they're not coming here to pick up just one illegal. So now the jail won't accept her any more. Since she's not a violent felon, no fucks are given. |
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Just a regular old Mexican who I believe had a student visa and then just stayed once the illegal was no longer in school. No criminal record, no pending criminal charges. View Quote |
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Just a regular old Mexican who I believe had a student visa and then just stayed once the illegal was no longer in school. No criminal record, no pending criminal charges. View Quote Red flag. |
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My mower guy is an american hero There's a big a Fancy Pants company that has contracts for most of the lawn mowing and snow plowing in my area. They have an office the next town over and have fleets of pick ups, mowers and heavy equipment in multiple garages/barns at the immaculately landscaped headquarters. They descend on our neighborhood during the week when weather is good like an army. Only a couple of people mow their own lawns in my development. They do a great job, have nice new equipment and mowed our lawn for years. One day my wife was home and a smashed up commercial pick up chugs up and parks out front with two mowers and a couple of trimmers on a rack. Tough looking white dude (it's all white dudes doing this stuff around here) hops out with a younger "I'm the under the table helper" man "Hey lady!" "yes?" "I'll mow this place for 2/3 of what them guys from Fancy Pants mowing do it for" "Deal" Yeah he cuts the top off the water shut off valve pipe every six weeks or so. Oh well. My neighbor came over one day, he never comes over. He asks me to come over to his property. My mower guy has been dumping all my clippings in a huge pile on the neighbor's property where it was hidden by some brush. I think "this mower guy is a honey badger" I offered to remove it "No, just tell him to knock it off" Oh my neighbor says that the weird guy who owns the house behind me was wandering around my back yard, mower guy stops "Get the fuck outta here" hops back on and starts mowing again. I pull into the driveway one day and my wife and kids are gathered around a big chunk of machined metal like they found a spaceship. "What's this dad?!" "I don't know but I bet it used to be part of a zero turn lawn mower, throw it in the truck kids" View Quote |
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My neighbor came over one day, he never comes over. He asks me to come over to his property. My mower guy has been dumping all my clippings in a huge pile on the neighbor's property where it was hidden by some brush. I think "this mower guy is a honey badger" I offered to remove it "No, just tell him to knock it off" Oh my neighbor says that the weird guy who owns the house behind me was wandering around my back yard, mower guy stops "Get the fuck outta here" hops back on and starts mowing again. View Quote I apologized and told them I would make sure he didn't do that again. I get it. That shit shouldn't happen around here. I totally understand. The next week I pull up and see that it had been done again (grass out in the street). I pulled into my driveway, opened my garage while calling him (my lawn guy) and was getting on his ass about it and before I could get off the phone, my doorbell rang and it was the neighbor raising hell about it. Thankfully they moved back up north. |
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I've sat through two seminars on how to help illegals avoid deportation over criminal or civil charges. There was even hilarious advice like "ask the judge to not say his name so ICE won't know who he is if they are there" Of course an attorney should be concerned with collateral consequences of civil and criminal proceedings, but futzing around trying to help a client who the cops are after avoid court or get in and out of court without being caught? I have no illegal clients anyway. View Quote |
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So- you are sitting in a CLE and I assume other lawyers are teaching it--and they you to attempt to mislead and /or lie to the Court and other public officials who are doing their statutory duties? You try
that shit around here and I would grieve and prosecute your ass....just saying. Misprision of a felony, perjury, and obstruction are still crimes. |
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As others have mentioned, theres the DHS tip line.
...but you won't do anything anyways, so what's the point? |
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So- you are sitting in a CLE and I assume other lawyers are teaching it--and they you to attempt to mislead and /or lie to the Court and other public officials who are doing their statutory duties? You try that shit around here and I would grieve and prosecute your ass....just saying. Misprision of a felony, perjury, and obstruction are still crimes. View Quote Just FYI |
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This is nothing new. 20 years ago if we locked up illegals we'd call ICE. First question was "Are they Mexican?" If we said we yes they would not even come out for them.
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As others have mentioned, theres the DHS tip line. ...but you won't do anything anyways, so what's the point? View Quote Disney's Frozen "Let It Go" Sequence Performed by Idina Menzel |
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So- you are sitting in a CLE and I assume other lawyers are teaching it--and they you to attempt to mislead and /or lie to the Court and other public officials who are doing their statutory duties? You try that shit around here and I would grieve and prosecute your ass....just saying. Misprision of a felony, perjury, and obstruction are still crimes. View Quote I just don't think my representation of someone should involve assisting them from being brought into court on something else. Presumably they are going to get a chance to be heard on whatever legal claims they may have if ICE takes them, why should an attorney be assisting someone in avoiding the court process?* *if you are going to be sued and the statute of limitations runs in three days I have no problem telling someone they could vacation in northern Canada for a few days, but illegal status isn't going to change in the next three days. |
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