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Link Posted: 7/24/2016 8:54:35 PM EDT
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".

You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.
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I could work at Taco Bell and make more than that,probably get a free meal out of it too



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:32:33 PM EDT
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No shit.



$11/hr to drive my own car around and cover gas, wear and tear, insurance and depreciation.



I made more then that delivering pizza. 2/3rds of that was in cash and I didn't have to let strangers in my car.

And it was in 1993 when minimum wage was $4.25/hr.

Oh, and free pizza.
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".

You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.
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$11/hr to drive my own car around and cover gas, wear and tear, insurance and depreciation.



I made more then that delivering pizza. 2/3rds of that was in cash and I didn't have to let strangers in my car.

And it was in 1993 when minimum wage was $4.25/hr.

Oh, and free pizza.


Yup, I was averaging $20 dollars an hour delivering.



A guy I work with does both Uber and Lyft on the weekends, he's making more than what is described in the OP though.  



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:34:43 PM EDT
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Quick question, are there any requirements on what kind of vehicle you have to have to drive for Uber?
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:41:04 PM EDT
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OP I want your dog.  


Yea $70 in 6 hours sounds horrible
That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...


So maybe he broke even



 

Lol my nephew did it for a couple weeks. People vomiting, one guy banging an unconscious girl in the back seat.
Good times!








How is that funny?  What if that was your daughter, mom or wife?
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:43:50 PM EDT
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I get the impression Uber drivers aren't very good at math and haven't done a cost/benefit analysis.  Six hours means he went through a tank of gas unless he drives a Chevy Volt and wear and tear is a lot more than just gas.
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.

I get the impression Uber drivers aren't very good at math and haven't done a cost/benefit analysis.  Six hours means he went through a tank of gas unless he drives a Chevy Volt and wear and tear is a lot more than just gas.



Yeah but if you need to make rent by the end of the week that math goes out the window
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:45:07 PM EDT
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Walmart showed them how its done.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:46:32 PM EDT
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That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...


So maybe he broke even



 
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Yea $70 in 6 hours sounds horrible
That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...


So maybe he broke even



 


That would be an $18 an hour job that was taxed, a lot of people don't make that kind of money.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 9:48:01 PM EDT
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
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Beats minimum wage. I guess if you are lonely and have nothing better to do its good for some side cash.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:31:08 PM EDT
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I don't know how much they make but they beat Taxis so I keep giving them my ducats
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It really is a horrible deal for the drivers.  Lyft is probably the same.  Somebody ought to start another competitor that actually pays well.   Do uber drivers get to deduct fuel, maintenance and insurance costs?
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:44:59 PM EDT
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Beats minimum wage. I guess if you are lonely and have nothing better to do its good for some side cash.
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.




Beats minimum wage. I guess if you are lonely and have nothing better to do its good for some side cash.


I dont see anything posted about beating minimum wage. 10 to 11 bucks an hour before fuel, insurance, maintenance, and depreciation? If my fleet costs are any indicator, he made around 2 bucks an hour if it was a small car and everything was perfect.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:50:19 PM EDT
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There are a ton of variables. I drive a service in CT called uber premium SUV. I make a minimum of $3.50/mile-18%uber fee. Cost all in to drive my 2010 suburban is $1/mile. Are you driving off hours and late, sure sometimes. Is it easy to make a quick few hundred bucks if you have a higher end vehicle, yes.  Definitely not for everyone, but what is?

Re: 1099's you are not factoring in the mileage deduction. It's almost a wash when you have a primary income that you can then deduct the mileage from on your taxes.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:50:22 PM EDT
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I am extremely lucky and thankful for my job, but $70 is about 20 minutes of work.  Six hours seems a long time to work for that same amount.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:51:45 PM EDT
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Does he even figure in the, "self employment taxes?"   I figure, it must be about being a part of the underground economy (tips don't count).   Or maybe....you report just alittle.

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:53:10 PM EDT
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My brother does it occasionally.  He's made $300 over the course of the weekend, driving for about 6 hours total.  He waits until the demand is high and then goes out for a few hours.  If I had an eligible vehicle then I would probably do it, too.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:55:34 PM EDT
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Yes.  I think it has to be a 2005/2006 or newer vehicle with 4 doors.  If you have 3rd row seating you are considered an Uber XL and can make more money.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:56:39 PM EDT
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
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At least the guy is working and making an effort you have to give him props for that.
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This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.




There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.




I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 10:59:28 PM EDT
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I could work at Taco Bell and make more than that,probably get a free meal out of it too
 
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.
I could work at Taco Bell and make more than that,probably get a free meal out of it too
 



I am sure you meet all kinds of interesting people too, the same way as you do via Uber.

Standing in the hot kitchen.
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My brother does it occasionally.  He's made $300 over the course of the weekend, driving for about 6 hours total.  He waits until the demand is high and then goes out for a few hours.  If I had an eligible vehicle then I would probably do it, too.
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The guy who drove me the other night was on his way to the next town over where H1B engineers  cause a surge and he snaps up fares non stop.

Nice guy
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:00:13 PM EDT
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".
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Uber is awesome and you sound like an ass.

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I get the impression Uber drivers aren't very good at math and haven't done a cost/benefit analysis.  Six hours means he went through a tank of gas unless he drives a Chevy Volt and wear and tear is a lot more than just gas.
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Was talking to a friend yesterday and he was bragging about how he made $70.00 in six hours being an uber driver.  He seemed proud that he made that much not doing anything except "driving people around".

You couldn't even get me out of bed to make $70.00 over six hours unless I was downright destitute...especially if it involved driving my own car for that length of time.


I get the impression Uber drivers aren't very good at math and haven't done a cost/benefit analysis.  Six hours means he went through a tank of gas unless he drives a Chevy Volt and wear and tear is a lot more than just gas.




 
This is the truth. Most of them are using their car as an ATM machine, cashing out its value for cost or less on a per-mile basis. It's very sad to watch.
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Lol



The first time I had an uber ride, it was nearly $5 for a 10-15 minute ride.  I had seen the $4.xx on my phone and I asked the driver if that was right.  He said, "yea, that's pretty good for a couple minutes of work, isn't it?"



Ah yea sure buddy, you had 20 minutes wrapped up in the drive and wait for me, plus a dollar in gas, plus maintenance on the car, insurance, etc.  I couldn't believe how cheap it was while this idiot was thinking he had a get rich quick scheme going.
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You met the average Uber driver.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:05:12 PM EDT
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  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.


There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.


I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!
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uber figured out how to make billions while paying employees next to nothing

  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.


There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.


I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!



Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?
Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.
So you have to file a 1099 form.

I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.
50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.

Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:06:05 PM EDT
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st of them are using their car as an ATM machine, cashing out its value for cost or less on a per-mile basis. It's very sad to watch.
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I concur..
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Last I heard uber drivers kept 80% of the fare and uber got 20%. Example, from my house to the nearest airport it's about an $80 uber fare, the driver keeps about $64 out of the $80 and completes the trip in an hour or less.
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And then he drives all the way back empty, or he waits an hour or two in the airport waiting queue, if there is one in your airport.
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Waze is way ahead of them. Way.
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What is ironic is that the drivers are driving themselves out of a job.  Uber is using the drivers to compile data on routes so they they can use driver-less cars in a few years.  Uber is nothing more than a huge data collection service.







Waze is way ahead of them. Way.
Yep. And Google owns Waze.

 
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:09:13 PM EDT
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Yes. I think it has to be a 2005/2006 or newer vehicle with 4 doors. If you have 3rd row seating you are considered an Uber XL and can make more money.
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So, an '81 Jeep CJ7 with no back seat is out of the question??
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Varies  by market. In Seattle, 2006 or newer car.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:09:33 PM EDT
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I am a currently registered Uber driver.  I started doing it when Uber came to Ann Arbor a few years ago.  The main reason I did it was to learn about AA and U of M, in case any of my kids decided to attend..  Plus, it never sucked when 6 scantily-clad, somewhat inebriated college girls climbed into my car.

$70 in 6 hours seems entirely plausible.  I suffer from insomnia at times, so I drive during what I call the "drunk patrol," from midnight to 3 AM.  If I'm busy, I probably average $75-$125 for the three hours.  The surge pricing helps.  

Holidays are a great time to drive - Halloween, the day before Thanksgiving, and New Year's Eve is the biggest day of the year.  Last NYE I caught a 5.6X surge fare, and on top of that the guy tipped me $50.  I made over $400 in 6 hours last NYE.  I hate NYE, I never celebtate it, so I was happy to make some money.

if you look at your costs as already paid, as in "I already have a car, and am paying the registration and insurance," and if you know where and when to drive, you can make some decent side money.

But it would be very difficult to make a living strictly from driving for Uber.  Best way I've seen anyone describe it: "You're selling your car to Uber, one small piece at a time."
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Does your insurance company know you're driving for UBER?

My insurance company always asks me when I call them to make a claim or change my policy.  I'm just curious about how much it'll add to my already expensive car insurance.

Aloha, Mark
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Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?
Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.
So you have to file a 1099 form.

I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.
50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.

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uber figured out how to make billions while paying employees next to nothing

  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.


There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.


I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!



Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?
Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.
So you have to file a 1099 form.

I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.
50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.




I like Uber as it is a better service than a taxi.
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That would be an $18 an hour job that was taxed, a lot of people don't make that kind of money.

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OP I want your dog.  





Yea $70 in 6 hours sounds horrible
That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...





So maybe he broke even
 




That would be an $18 an hour job that was taxed, a lot of people don't make that kind of money.





 
After paying expenses, he's making likely $6/hour, and then he has to pay taxes on it, including both sides of SSI, so it's more like a $5/hr paid job.
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It really is a horrible deal for the drivers.  Lyft is probably the same.  Somebody ought to start another competitor that actually pays well.   Do uber drivers get to deduct fuel, maintenance and insurance costs?
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It really is a horrible deal for the drivers.  Lyft is probably the same.  Somebody ought to start another competitor that actually pays well.   Do uber drivers get to deduct fuel, maintenance and insurance costs?




 
Lyft pays exactly the same and is even more difficult to work with than Uber and is falling way behind on driver features on its app. I used to drive 90 percent Lyft and 10 percent Uber. Now, I drive 95 percent Uber and 5 percent Lyft. I don't expect they will be around all that much longer.
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How is the 1099 reported?
work is slow - Obama says the economy is great right? I've been unemployed for two months now and was thinking about trying UBER to supplement UE. But earning income will F up my mighty $247 a week. If the 1099 isn't reported except to the IRS at years end I would be OK right?

And before anyone jumps my ass - UE is paid for by employers in TN, its not a .gov "handout". It just gets collected from the employer and paid out by the state.
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Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?

Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.

So you have to file a 1099 form.



I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.

50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.



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uber figured out how to make billions while paying employees next to nothing


  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.





There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.





I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!







Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?

Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.

So you have to file a 1099 form.



I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.

50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.



Truth. Uber customers are the cheapest of the cheap. Mr. Pinks, straight out of Reservoir Dogs, most of them. They get a ride in a better car for half of what they'd pay to be in a butt-smelling taxi, and they never tip.



All the time, I pick these ballers up at a hotel, and they tip the porter $20 as I load their luggage into my car. Get to the end of the trip, I unload their shit, and they walk away. I just laugh.




Likely, we'll hear from a bunch of these clowns in . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .



 


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How is the 1099 reported?

work is slow - Obama says the economy is great right? I've been unemployed for two months now and was thinking about trying UBER to supplement UE. But earning income will F up my mighty $247 a week. If the 1099 isn't reported except to the IRS at years end I would be OK right?



And before anyone jumps my ass - UE is paid for by employers in TN, its not a .gov "handout". It just gets collected from the employer and paid out by the state.
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Uber gives a 1099 that says it pays you for the gross fares, not the fare left after Uber takes its 20-25 percent (depends on when you signed up), so if you do not notice this and deduct the Uber fees, you are paying taxes on money that you never were paid. It's a very sleazy company. It could well be the most ethically challenged company in the US.
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That's on fed taxes though right at end of year?

I would only drive at the peak times for the premium if I did it.

And I can do math and quit if its not working out. I just cant F up my unemployment.
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It really is a horrible deal for the drivers.  Lyft is probably the same.  Somebody ought to start another competitor that actually pays well.   Do uber drivers get to deduct fuel, maintenance and insurance costs?
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It really is a horrible deal for the drivers.  Lyft is probably the same.  Somebody ought to start another competitor that actually pays well.   Do uber drivers get to deduct fuel, maintenance and insurance costs?



From federal taxes?  You bet.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:37:28 PM EDT
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Truth. Uber customers are the cheapest of the cheap. Mr. Pinks, straight out of Reservoir Dogs, most of them. They get a ride in a better car for half of what they'd pay to be in a butt-smelling taxi, and they never tip.

All the time, I pick these ballers up at a hotel, and they tip the porter $20 as I load their luggage into my car. Get to the end of the trip, I unload their shit, and they walk away. I just laugh.


Likely, we'll hear from a bunch of these clowns in . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .
 


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uber figured out how to make billions while paying employees next to nothing

  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.


There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.


I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!



Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?
Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.
So you have to file a 1099 form.

I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.
50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.

Truth. Uber customers are the cheapest of the cheap. Mr. Pinks, straight out of Reservoir Dogs, most of them. They get a ride in a better car for half of what they'd pay to be in a butt-smelling taxi, and they never tip.

All the time, I pick these ballers up at a hotel, and they tip the porter $20 as I load their luggage into my car. Get to the end of the trip, I unload their shit, and they walk away. I just laugh.


Likely, we'll hear from a bunch of these clowns in . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .
 





What is considered a baller hotel in Somalia?
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:37:37 PM EDT
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I have a friend that averages about $10 per hour. He pays his own gas and wear and tear.
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fast food pays $10/hr here. The lasertag/go cart place pays $11-12 to start
all without having to worry about extra insurance, wear and tear on the car, gas, etc
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This I disagree with. As someone that sits behind a desk too much, and heats exclusively with wood, I enjoy the exercise and satisfaction of seeing 3 years of wood stacked in the barn. The wood stove also doesn't care when the power is out for three days because of a freak ice storm in GA.

From a $$ spent/hrs worked standpoint you're probably right, but there are other benefits to cutting your own firewood.
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Kind of the same mentality as people that cut their own firewood.


This I disagree with. As someone that sits behind a desk too much, and heats exclusively with wood, I enjoy the exercise and satisfaction of seeing 3 years of wood stacked in the barn. The wood stove also doesn't care when the power is out for three days because of a freak ice storm in GA.

From a $$ spent/hrs worked standpoint you're probably right, but there are other benefits to cutting your own firewood.


Yea, I do all kinds of similar stuff that doesn't make sense $/hr, but is a decent exercise, satisfying, and relieves some stress.
Link Posted: 7/24/2016 11:50:04 PM EDT
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Taxi driver can clear  900 to a thousand a week, almost anywhere.
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Work 60 hours a week and make $700.  Plus all of the wear and tear on the car.  With no benefits.  Where do I sign up?
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to say nothing about possibly getting ripped off, beaten, or killed who could want better.
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Wood buggas around here drive for miles, beat up their $30- 40- 50,000 trucks, winches, cables, 2 or 3 saws and maybe you come out ahead as long as you don't get yourself hurt.  Not every one can do it in their leisure on their own property.
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???WTF???

I cut my own wood, I enjoy it. Its fun, cutting, splitting, stacking and burning and I get to manage my woodlot for wildlife.
I'm retired so I have all the time in the world. A chain saw, used lawn tractor, trailer and a splitting wedge didn't cost me over $2500.
Cost for gas, oil, chains, and bar oil are not more than $40 a year if that.

$2500 initial investment
$50 yearly expenses = cheap heat.How does that compare to buying a car and driving it for bout min wage return/hr?

Wood buggas around here drive for miles, beat up their $30- 40- 50,000 trucks, winches, cables, 2 or 3 saws and maybe you come out ahead as long as you don't get yourself hurt.  Not every one can do it in their leisure on their own property.



Cutting firewood is a hobby.
It's taxing on the body. And will trash your back, knees and hands quicker than if you didn't burn firewood.
Best for 6 hears cutting. Splitting. Stacking. Haulinf, restacking, loading the stove. Etc.

I woukd save more money working a min wage job for the time I invested with that crap. I still burn wood , I buy it pre split and dry. Oh and buying it is a tax deduction.
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uber figured out how to make billions while paying employees next to nothing


  This is the truth. Uber would never call its drivers employees, though. They are "partners," meaning independent contractors, so Uber does not have to follow laws regarding minimum wage or pay unemployment insurances, or really anything.





There are ways the smart game the system to make decent money, but every day that becomes harder and harder.





I do it part time, concentrating on the few hours each week when one can make bank and then leave the rest to the desperate. Sadly, there's an endless supply of desperate recent immigrants for Uber to take on as "partners." No green card required!







Right, Uber is not their employer. Uber just facilitates the transaction. That's all. And takes what, almost 20%?

Pretty steep just for that.  You are an independent contractor, like a car mechanic. Or an Ebay seller. Ebay brings sellers and buyers together but when you sell on Ebay, you don't work for them. Uber is exactly the same way.

So you have to file a 1099 form.



I don't think Uber is 100% to blame. A huge part of the problem is the customer. They are cheap and price shoppers. So they look for the cheapest service possible. Uber is popular for the same reason Walmart is popular.  It's not that greedy capitalists in top hats take all the money,  sitting in conference rooms, smoking cigars.

50% of it is cheap bastards price shoppers can only pay min-wage to drivers.



Truth. Uber customers are the cheapest of the cheap. Mr. Pinks, straight out of Reservoir Dogs, most of them. They get a ride in a better car for half of what they'd pay to be in a butt-smelling taxi, and they never tip.



All the time, I pick these ballers up at a hotel, and they tip the porter $20 as I load their luggage into my car. Get to the end of the trip, I unload their shit, and they walk away. I just laugh.





Likely, we'll hear from a bunch of these clowns in . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

 











What is considered a baller hotel in Somalia?




 
All of 'em are swank.
Link Posted: 7/25/2016 7:08:40 PM EDT
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That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...


So maybe he broke even

 
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Yea $70 in 6 hours sounds horrible
That's less than $12/hr... minus gas, insurance, wear and tear...


So maybe he broke even

 


People dont think about it this way, they only see the money in their acct or hand.  When they need a repair or something expensive replaced Only then do they realize that they didnt make shit and are stuck with a bum vehicle.
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I usually made about a couple hundred bucks in a night, probably burned sixty in gas.

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FIFMS

Went back and looked at my Über deposits, guess I was off my a hundred.

Über is a pretty fun gig if you're not a grumpy, smelly loner.

I met tons of interesting people, could have had many dating quality leads and only had one issue which Über quickly took care of.

YMMV
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