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Quoted: We move D11s around like you trailer an ATV. Granted, we're using 789s to do it and a paved highway would not survive the process. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 248,000lbs plus armor would put it around 300,000lbs. As it’s about 30,000lbs on a D9. A D11 old be more. So about 50,000lbs of armor. Maybe more. 300,000lbs would be rough to move around and transport at all. A D9 they can pop the blade off and move. You also have height restrictions. A D9 12.54 feet tall. With armor probably 13ft even. A D11 is 15.29 feet. Plus armor so almost 16 feet tall I would speculate. Width is another problem. D11’s are almost 12 feet wide track to track. Over 22 feet depending on blade choices. D9 would be around 14. So yeah… a lot harder to move. A lot harder to move in the field, definitely down a road way. We move D11s around like you trailer an ATV. Granted, we're using 789s to do it and a paved highway would not survive the process. Minor differences… trying to move it through a densely populated area, or even a military base in Israel… vs a major U.S. mining site where they operate anyways. A 789 and a D11 would do a pretty good number on about any bridge. Probably around a million pounds with a D11 in the back? What bridge is 500 ton spot load rated? |
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Quoted: Ham-ass terrorists are hiding in underground tunnels. It'll be interesting to see what will be used to destroy the tunnels for good. I think bring in fuel tankers, empty all of it in the tunnels, and enjoy watching the fried terrorist show. View Quote Just cover all the entrances with a couple tons of debris. |
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Quoted: Minor differences… trying to move it through a densely populated area, or even a military base in Israel… vs a major U.S. mining site where they operate anyways. A 789 and a D11 would do a pretty good number on about any bridge. Probably around a million pounds with a D11 in the back? What bridge is 500 ton spot load rated? View Quote Different situations for sure. Suitable bridges exist but you're obviously not going to encounter one by accident - I can think of three off the top of my head. It's cheaper and easier to just use ~20' culverts for single-lane underpasses/tunnels instead. |
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Thing is awesome!
and it'll look even more awesome getting blown up in a city turned to rubble... |
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Quoted: 248,000lbs plus armor would put it around 300,000lbs. As it’s about 30,000lbs on a D9. A D11 old be more. So about 50,000lbs of armor. Maybe more. 300,000lbs would be rough to move around and transport at all. A D9 they can pop the blade off and move. You also have height restrictions. A D9 12.54 feet tall. With armor probably 13ft even. A D11 is 15.29 feet. Plus armor so almost 16 feet tall I would speculate. Width is another problem. D11’s are almost 12 feet wide track to track. Over 22 feet depending on blade choices. D9 would be around 14. So yeah… a lot harder to move. A lot harder to move in the field, definitely down a road way. View Quote Roadways that no longer exist in Gaza??? |
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Quoted: Remember Afghanistan, Vietnam, Ukraine is losing. Hey, volunteer, Ukraine is still taking bodies for the meat grinder, ages 15 to 70. "Fight them there so you don't have to fight them here".? Remember the 3 buildings in the World Trade Center that fell during 911? Wait only two were hit by airplanes?? The owner of the twin towers just happened to take out an insurance policy that covered terrorism. Look it up. You've been conned. Look up the Gulf of Tonkin, the USS liberty, hell they even knew in advance of the attack on Pearl Harbor. The con continues. The Israelis are known for their security and and intelligence service, they just happened to not notice Hamas plans, they didn't notice the paragliders or send out an attack helicopter? . Yea, right. Right about when Nuttinyahoo was being investigated for corruption. Don't believe me , look it up. For too long now, the American people have rationalized turning a blind eye to all manner of government wrongdoing—asset forfeiture schemes, corruption, surveillance, endless wars, SWAT team raids, militarized police, profit-driven private prisons, and so on—because they were the so-called lesser of two evils. If you choose the lesser of two evils, you are still choosing evil. View Quote Lol, what the precise shit are you going on about? If everything okay at home? |
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It took almost a whole page before Rachel Corrie referenced?
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Quoted: Explain calling me a douche bag. Are you assuming that I'm pro palestinian? Or perhaps you object to the idea that Israel is justified in flattening that den of scum and villainy? Did you misread my use of the palestinian's own chants against them? I'll not deny being a douche bag but I want to know your reasoning. View Quote Well if your intention was to use the chant against them you would have said "from the sea to the river" so yeah, I read it as as pro-Pali. I'm a yuge fan of flattening til the desired result is achieved. |
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Quoted: Well if your intention was to use the chant against them you would have said "from the sea to the river" so yeah, I read it as as pro-Pali. I'm a yuge fan of flattening til the desired result is achieved. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Explain calling me a douche bag. Are you assuming that I'm pro palestinian? Or perhaps you object to the idea that Israel is justified in flattening that den of scum and villainy? Did you misread my use of the palestinian's own chants against them? I'll not deny being a douche bag but I want to know your reasoning. Well if your intention was to use the chant against them you would have said "from the sea to the river" so yeah, I read it as as pro-Pali. I'm a yuge fan of flattening til the desired result is achieved. From the sea to the river makes no sense. You'd block the flow and cause all manner of problems. Push toward the sea and you can build a nice something on the new ground you built with the fill dirt and rubble. Plus, armored D9s are not set up for over the beach assaults |
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No sweeps like for dozing trees to keep rubble off the hood/ exhaust ? Tall walls falling back on the machine , how will they handle that?, don't push tall walls ?
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I built one in 1/35 Attached File
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Bulldoze Gaza to the ground. No fucks given here. Get it done already.
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Quoted: Torque is the word you seek View Quote Yep. 110HP Case Steam Tractor Pull Pinckneyville Illinois August 15 2014 |
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Quoted: Quoted: I suppose top speed isn’t a concern, but I would have figured something that heavy might have a tad more than 450 HP. Heck, my 5500 lb SUV has 350 HP. Pretty sure my 62 hp tractor would drag his 350 hp suv all over and that extra hp he has won't help him a bit. |
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Quoted: I suppose top speed isn’t a concern, but I would have figured something that heavy might have a tad more than 450 HP. Heck, my 5500 lb SUV has 350 HP. View Quote And your SUV is probably geared to top out somewhere around 110. The D9 goes 7.2. At max speed thats 15x the gearing. That thing can put a massive amount of torque into the ground. At a reasonable pushing speed of 2 mph it is 55x the gearing of your SUV at top speed |
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Quoted: Having used one to push scrapers the phase a shit ton of torque doesn't even begin to describe it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That has a shit ton of torque I bet Having used one to push scrapers the phase a shit ton of torque doesn't even begin to describe it. finally found it last night, 2736 ft lbs of torque. My old fire engine with a Detroit Series 60 had 1475, if could move pretty damn good for 50,000 pounds. |
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I agree with another poster who said the tracks still look like the weak link.
All the cage to protect the operators cabin against RPG's, but a well placed hit to the tracks or drive sprocket is going to immobilize the machine. Still the thing is pretty fucking awesome. |
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I want one of little mini's so I can park it in my garage
Cruise around the block 05:00 Willowbrook SWAT barricade |
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Quoted: That doesn't seem strong enough on the engine piece. 452hp?? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "Based on Caterpillar’s 110,225 lb (50,000 kg), 452 horsepower D9, the D9R is nicknamed “Doobi” - Hebrew for teddy bear." https://www.forbes.com/sites/erictegler/2023/10/24/israels-armored-caterpillar-bulldozers-will-be-active-in-gaza/?sh=12f4704f34d6 https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/653732a16f4e5fc7137df9e0/IDF-Caterpillar-D9-armored-bulldozer---Israel-66th-Independence-Day/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440 As in the past, the Israeli Defense Force will rely on an effective tool - the armored D9R bulldozer - to root out Hamas militants and clear deadly explosives. Bulldozers have been useful military tools since WWII when the British developed the first armored dozer, a Caterpillar D7 medium-sized tractor (31, 870 lbs/14,456 kg) fitted with engine and driver-protecting armor. Produced in preparation for the Battle of Normandy, the D7s were assigned to clearing the invasion beaches of obstacles and quickly making roads accessible by clearing rubble and filling in bomb craters. Over the next days, weeks and months, Israeli D9Rs will take on similar tasks in an environment just as, or more, dangerous. Caterpillar D9 bulldozer Based on Caterpillar’s 110,225 lb (50,000 kg), 452 horsepower D9, the D9R is nicknamed “Doobi” Hebrew for teddy bear. While the massive machines may not look particularly cuddly, they have saved many Israeli lives and arguably, many Palestinian lives as well. Doobis are operated by the IDF’s Combat Engineering Corps whose roles include road breaching, counter-mobility of enemy forces, construction and destruction under fire, sabotage, explosives, bomb disposal, and counter-weapons of mass destruction. Commercial market D9s are imported to Israel by local Caterpillar dealer, Israeli Tractors and Equipment (ITE) part of the construction group, Zoko Enterprises. Working in conjunction with the IDF’s Technology and Maintenance Corps, Zoko/ITE and Israel Aerospace Industries add advanced armor to the bulldozers including slat armor (cage or standoff type armor) to base D9s. The armor kit provides protection to the D9’s engine and hydraulic systems as well as the operator cabin. The D9R is crewed by a driver/operator and commander. Bullet-proof glass and armored cabin pillars are augmented by slat armor which prevents rocket-propelled grenades, anti-tank missiles and rockets from lodging in/around the cab structure. The kit, including belly armor and a beefed-up dozer blade, adds approximately 34,000 pounds (15,422 kg) to the D9s overall weight. That doesn't seem strong enough on the engine piece. 452hp?? That’s plenty to do what they will do, essentially your powering hydraulic pumps. |
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Israeli footage shows tanks carrying out 'targeted raid' in Gaza |
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Quoted: That thing better have Tier 4 final diesel emissions components. I'm going to tell the UN if it doesn't. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "Based on Caterpillar’s 110,225 lb (50,000 kg), 452 horsepower D9, the D9R is nicknamed “Doobi” - Hebrew for teddy bear." https://www.forbes.com/sites/erictegler/2023/10/24/israels-armored-caterpillar-bulldozers-will-be-active-in-gaza/?sh=12f4704f34d6 https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/653732a16f4e5fc7137df9e0/IDF-Caterpillar-D9-armored-bulldozer---Israel-66th-Independence-Day/960x0.jpg?format=jpg&width=1440 As in the past, the Israeli Defense Force will rely on an effective tool - the armored D9R bulldozer - to root out Hamas militants and clear deadly explosives. Bulldozers have been useful military tools since WWII when the British developed the first armored dozer, a Caterpillar D7 medium-sized tractor (31, 870 lbs/14,456 kg) fitted with engine and driver-protecting armor. Produced in preparation for the Battle of Normandy, the D7s were assigned to clearing the invasion beaches of obstacles and quickly making roads accessible by clearing rubble and filling in bomb craters. Over the next days, weeks and months, Israeli D9Rs will take on similar tasks in an environment just as, or more, dangerous. Caterpillar D9 bulldozer Based on Caterpillar’s 110,225 lb (50,000 kg), 452 horsepower D9, the D9R is nicknamed “Doobi” Hebrew for teddy bear. While the massive machines may not look particularly cuddly, they have saved many Israeli lives and arguably, many Palestinian lives as well. Doobis are operated by the IDF’s Combat Engineering Corps whose roles include road breaching, counter-mobility of enemy forces, construction and destruction under fire, sabotage, explosives, bomb disposal, and counter-weapons of mass destruction. Commercial market D9s are imported to Israel by local Caterpillar dealer, Israeli Tractors and Equipment (ITE) part of the construction group, Zoko Enterprises. Working in conjunction with the IDF’s Technology and Maintenance Corps, Zoko/ITE and Israel Aerospace Industries add advanced armor to the bulldozers including slat armor (cage or standoff type armor) to base D9s. The armor kit provides protection to the D9’s engine and hydraulic systems as well as the operator cabin. The D9R is crewed by a driver/operator and commander. Bullet-proof glass and armored cabin pillars are augmented by slat armor which prevents rocket-propelled grenades, anti-tank missiles and rockets from lodging in/around the cab structure. The kit, including belly armor and a beefed-up dozer blade, adds approximately 34,000 pounds (15,422 kg) to the D9s overall weight. That thing better have Tier 4 final diesel emissions components. I'm going to tell the UN if it doesn't. It doesn’t, that’s why they run a D9T and not a D9R, no def or emissions to fuck up at the worst possible moment. |
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How did the IDF utilize its D9 in the Jenin Camp? |
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Why The D9R Armoured bulldozer Will be key to An Israeli Ground Operation In Gaza Against Hamas |
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IDF CATERPILLAR D9 ARMORED BULLDOZER |
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Quoted: Maybe pushing aside the rubble to remove barriers the enemy is using? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: WTF are they going to knock down that hasn't already been leveled?!? But do have to say that thing is ominous. Maybe pushing aside the rubble to remove barriers the enemy is using? I think they've only hit like 10% of the cities, "leveled" is far from it. |
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Quoted: Ham-ass terrorists are hiding in underground tunnels. It'll be interesting to see what will be used to destroy the tunnels for good. I think bring in fuel tankers, empty all of it in the tunnels, and enjoy watching the fried terrorist show. View Quote Block the entrances, problem solved. I would vote for dropping thermite or WP in entrance or BZ. |
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