I thought gun ownership and open carry of firearms (at least rifles) was the norm there...I guess I was wrong.

"Israeli law allows citizens to carry weapons under certain conditions, such as requiring one for work or living in an area of the country that faces heightened security risks. People who are eligible can own a single gun and 50 bullets.

The applicant for a firearms license must be a citizen or permanent resident of Israel, who has lived in Israel for the past three years or had completed his national / military service. A person who has served in IDF can receive a firearms license in Israel as of the age of 18."

Israel is, by our standards, very liberal. I don't know where people get the idea it's some rootin', tootin', shootin', place to live.

One gun and 50 rounds of ammo?

They need to pump up those numbers!

There is a reason most Jews vote Democrat. Now you know.

I wish people would stop calling mentally ill leftists "liberal" and "progressive".  They are not liberal.

This is what I've been saying. It's fucking ridiculous that people live next to Palestine and must demonstrate a need to have a gun? you would figure every man woman and child in that country would have at least half a dozen guns, a few grenades and maybe some claymores plus thousands of rounds of ammo.

How many civilians died in the last 36 hours because they had no means to defend themselves?

That sucks. What about non firearm weapons? Can you own archery equipment? A short spear? Bear spray?

Would suck to have to defend yourself during an invasion with kitchen knives and a can of soup in a sock

I wouldn't say "liberal", but their culture is not conducive to individual liberties. It's no mystery or secret.

Whatever, Captain Semantics. Go tell someone who gives a fuck.  

It is shocking how a country so hated by everyone around them doesn’t have an armed populace ready to defend itself.

What group is one of the largest supporters of gun control in the USA?  Is there any overlap in Israel?

By watching the news?

It's a police state and not sure why anyone would think anything different  .

It's the exact way they would like to see the USA become

Unarmed and a police state

You mean like all of the dual citizenship politicians?

Well they were founded in part by literal communists. "Liberal" doesn't really cover it.

I've met former IDF men who work in the defense industry who have possession of machineguns ONLY on their business premises and they CAN'T get a license to personally own a handgun because of where they live in Israel. People think because they  see IDF girls walking around in plain clothes with an unloaded CAR-16 or a teacher at a school with an M1 Carbine over their shoulder during recess or old photos of rabbis with UZIs that they have widespread gun ownership. Not true. It's very hard to get a license to own a shotgun to shoot skeet. Israel is a VERY hard left country.with very few personal liberties.

And no rifles are permitted to civilians.  This is why the Roni stock was invented.


Very non-gun friendly country, unless your a govt worker.

Don't stop now.  Tell us how you feel about: hot water heater, .45 Long Colt, etc.

They liberally spend twice the value of the treasury every year.

You can really fuck someone up with a can of soup in a sock!   Ask me how I know.

The same reason people here ask why do you need a gun, the police have guns, call 911.

That's carrying-in-the-shower level.

Is there a copy of this sung in Hebrew

Israeli politics aren't really directly comparable to the US, and Jews in the US aren't a unibody in beliefs. That being the case, anybody that thinks Israelis are just like us is naive. Some are similar. Some are incredibly different.

They get the idea from "Judeo-Christian Values."

Modern Liberalism with a capital L IS Far Leftism.  They steal words and change their meaning. Bending reality and stealing things is what Leftists do.  I guess a more proper term for them is NeoLiberal?

yep. Israel is pretty damn liberal in the modern meaning of the word.

it's like when idiots recite the 2nd amendment and make a big deal of "well regulated". when at the time well regulated meant well armed and supplied.

I wonder how strictly that's enforced, anyone know anyone that actually lives there? I would have a loaded out arsenal of proven ARs and factory loaded ammo if I lived there.

At least 1/5 of the population is Muslim.. I think this play a role in their gun laws…

If you’re the most hated country in the world you don’t want everybody to have easy & immediate access to guns.

Just a guess

Actually, I think I would.

No…you would not.  Owning and carrying a pistol is about the limit as a civilian.  Think NY strict.

Well, they get what they get then.  Pretty shitty and remarkably retarded of them.  I used to be supportive of them however that law and the covid response tell me they are not part of the good guys.

More of them would be alive and less of them would have been captured if they had been well armed.  They are a loss thanks to such policies.



A firefight with heavily armed Hamas militants who obviously have more than fifty rounds wouldn't last long.   Kind of reminds me of the Iraqi law that limits firearm ownership to one rifle and mag.  

Israel has shit tier level gun control.

It doesn’t matter how many people die because they couldn’t defend themselves, because those that oppose natural rights-to include the God given right to self defense-will never admit they’re wrong and will instead proclaim themselves to be the intellectual giants that prevented the massacre(s) from being worse had the dead been armed.

You can’t reason with assholes like that.

So dumb.  Especially since military service is almost mandatory.  Every citizen should be issued a weapon and ammo.

That should mean everyone should have them.

I think of that family huddled on the ground waiting for those insects to come in and have their way with them. The dad should have had a fuckin SAW and mom an M4 with select fire. At least they would have had a chance.

When I lived in Israel in 90's, the laws were much different!

Qualifications for carrying openly or concealed were very reasonable - you had to complete the active duty service and show a very minimal need - like "once a week I have to drive to territories to visit my friends" was enough.  there were plenty of gun ranges; there were civilian patrols - old men with old mauzers and M1 carbines walking on the streets at night... seeing a pistol tucked in the IWB or OWB hoster outside of the tucked shirt was very normal and commonplace

as soon as I was out of the army I got my permit and was issued a gun since I worked part-time as a security guard at school.  somehow since then, it all changed

Israel also does not have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom from unwarranted arrest or search and seizure. Hell they probably even require their subjects to quarter their soldiers if ordered to.

Is that why they call you soup head now ?  Or is it can head ?  Or sock head ?  Or cream of chicken ?

In the videos I saw the terrorists seem to be operating in small groups in the neighborhoods. They were only effective because they suffered no resistance. You can go door to door all day when no one is fighting back. 50 homes with one round each would be more useful than one homeowner with 50 rounds

They just changed the law today to allow more citizens to own firearms.. ya I know a little to late. But it's better than never




Announcement from the Office of the Minister of National Security - Emergency Operation in the Firearms Division: The

Minister of National Security, MK Itamar Ben Gvir, instructed the Firearms Licensing Division to launch an emergency operation, in order to allow as many citizens as possible to arm themselves. The plan will go into effect within 24 hours, below are its main points :

1. Any citizen who meets the detailed tests for carrying a private firearm due to self-defense and service of the security forces, and has no criminal or medical record, will be required to undergo a telephone interview instead of a physical interview, and will be able to receive permission to carry a firearm within a week. (Self-defense tests: residence in an eligible settlement , rifle veterans 07 and above, officers in the rank of lieutenant and above and officers in the rank of major and above in the IDF and the security forces, service in special units, firefighters, policemen, and workers and volunteers in the rescue forces).

2. Any citizen who received a conditional permit to purchase a firearm and did not purchase a firearm during the year 2023 and the conditional license has expired, will be able to purchase a firearm now without the need to submit another application. The exemption will apply to about 4000 citizens.

3. Any citizen who deposited his weapon in the last six months due to failure to perform refresher training or renewal training, will be able to receive his weapon back. The exemption will apply to about 1800 citizens.

4. In addition, starting next Tuesday, conditional permits to carry firearms will be issued with a permit allowing the purchase of up to 100 bullets instead of 50 today.

Minister of National Security MK Itamar Ben Gabir: "I thank the personnel of the Firearms Licensing Division, the Civil Response Department of the Israel Police and the employees of the Ministry of Health for the very important commitment that will allow as many citizens as possible to arm themselves and protect themselves and their environment when necessary."
t.me/admma_news/73865

Their gun laws suck and their emergency liberalization of them is s joke. They are never going to learn.

The civilians dying is a feature not a bug. Every time a defenseless Israeli gets killed, the Israeli government gets more excuses to retaliate and occupy more land. Unarmed civilians can be used as martyrs on TV.

Same reason Hamas hides among civilians, to try to bait the Israelis into killing them. They can use it for propaganda effects.

This !!! There are no more Liberals in this country . They have all become  Marxists, Socialists ,Communist's .

When I was in Israel I saw exactly 0 average citizens carrying, and I was looking for "tells" of CC.  Plenty of IDF, and they all had M4 or equivalent.

Agree ! Just slightly worse than Connecticut.

What gets me is that those countries across the pond that have really strict laws on gun ownership usually have no restriction on SBRs and suppressors but over here we have to pay a fee and get special permission to own one. Screw you atf

Serbia has very similar laws.