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Link Posted: 1/24/2023 2:32:13 AM EDT
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They need to ban porn and anime.  Supposedly Japanese guys would rather watch porn and anime and jerk off than find a woman.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:28:38 AM EDT
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It is all three. Well mostly the first two. The government has already tried creating beneficial economic conditions for people that have kids. It's not working. I was being cheeky about taxing the internet by the minute, but to be frank, society (Not just Japan but the whole of the developed world) is going to have to start having hard conversations about addiction to technology, because I do think it is a big problem. I mean, you can look at my post count and see that I like dicking around on computers, but I would be lying if I said that was ultimately healthy. We live in a time where a person can feasibly do everything from home  (work, entertainment, shopping, even base level socializing with others online), except make truly meaningful and intimate relationships. Computer assisted subsistence is so convenient, that it's ultimately destroying us. I don't really know how you fix that. Seeing the older kids of Gen Z coming of age, and seeing how seriously they take their internet identity now, having grown up with it from birth, it honestly scares me.
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Been wondering what the cause of their declining birth rate is; social, economic, or biological issues?

Maybe all three.

But I'd be happy to help out, lol.
It is all three. Well mostly the first two. The government has already tried creating beneficial economic conditions for people that have kids. It's not working. I was being cheeky about taxing the internet by the minute, but to be frank, society (Not just Japan but the whole of the developed world) is going to have to start having hard conversations about addiction to technology, because I do think it is a big problem. I mean, you can look at my post count and see that I like dicking around on computers, but I would be lying if I said that was ultimately healthy. We live in a time where a person can feasibly do everything from home  (work, entertainment, shopping, even base level socializing with others online), except make truly meaningful and intimate relationships. Computer assisted subsistence is so convenient, that it's ultimately destroying us. I don't really know how you fix that. Seeing the older kids of Gen Z coming of age, and seeing how seriously they take their internet identity now, having grown up with it from birth, it honestly scares me.



Kishida's role is to get the government to focus on this problem and start to make meaningful changes, but it's a generation too late...

There has been a culmination of issues over the past 20 years that have really pushed this problem, and finally, the Japanese government can not ignore it (especially the National Tax Agency).

Both my wife and I are working on various projects and academic study groups to come up with solutions, it's a nightmare to be honest. I mentor young Japanese men and women, and mostly I explain what to do on a date... Technology is a major problem (especially for young men, and especially porn), but there are deeper issues that have to be resolved and are cultural.

If anyone is interested I can explain what is happening on the political, social, cultural, economic, educational, and unfortunately biological issues. Japan is going to be a data point for the west on how to tackle depopulation and the loss of the agricultural workforce, and the trend to move from smaller cities to major cities like Osaka and Tokyo.

It's an existential problem.


Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:37:36 AM EDT
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As long as she squeaks, I'm down.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 5:14:12 AM EDT
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It won't happen, not to any significant degree anyway. The first reason is their own constitution, that General MacArthur handed them. They could re-draft it, but it's a huge undertaking.

Everyone but the Norks giving China nervous side-eye isn't enough to completely overcome the institutionalized base hatred most all of Asia feels towards Japan. And because of that, they won't accept Japan re-militarizing significantly past their current level. Most of Asia isn't interested in a significantly more militarized Japan, except as a talking-point against Chinese attempts at regional hegemony. And in part, the feelings towards Japan are exacerbated by the unique situation of the US occupation WWII. We gave them the kid-glove treatment in some ways, fearing they'd all go banzi to the last woman and child wielding sharp broomsticks if we pushed them too hard on owning up to what they did. And while nobody's going to make a human wave assault with sticks over it today, all that's still in play with certain Japanese/Asian cultural aspects in terms of honor and saving-face. And younger generations that just see WWII as a generic "war" over economics and whatever, without the darker aspects of "We've got a divine right to rule all this other sub-human filth." that motivated Imperial Japan from the 1930's to 1945, to add some context.

So Japan didn't get their "noses rubbed in it" in the way the Allies did with Germany. And the Germans even did more of it all on their own. (Arguably, Germany has gone too far in the other direction in some ways.) And that's assuming an actual meaningful full-blown apology and acknowledgement of Imperial Japanese WWII atrocities would actually help with other Asian countries supporting increased Japanese militarization. Instead, over the decades, Japan has issued a series of wishy-washy "statements of regret", but not outright apologies because of all that. And in practical terms of Japanese realpolitik, the Japanese Parliamentary system and certain hard-line political parties/factions would immediately cause a big internal backlash, making such apologies impossible.

And if all that could be ignored, Japan's demographic decline and economy can only support so much. They don't have America's largest military asset, the US Dollar, and it's ability to spread across the globe as the #1 world reserve currency and the Petrodollar, which enables the Fed Reserve to print dollars incessantly, and (usually) avoid intolerable inflation, and the Congressional deficit spending on a huge defense spending program. Japan just can't do it, even if they had the manpower, and the regional political or cultural realties needed to run a significantly bigger war machine.
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I hope someone rekindles that spark in the young men of Japan. It's about time, and the Pacific won't stay calm forever.
It won't happen, not to any significant degree anyway. The first reason is their own constitution, that General MacArthur handed them. They could re-draft it, but it's a huge undertaking.

Everyone but the Norks giving China nervous side-eye isn't enough to completely overcome the institutionalized base hatred most all of Asia feels towards Japan. And because of that, they won't accept Japan re-militarizing significantly past their current level. Most of Asia isn't interested in a significantly more militarized Japan, except as a talking-point against Chinese attempts at regional hegemony. And in part, the feelings towards Japan are exacerbated by the unique situation of the US occupation WWII. We gave them the kid-glove treatment in some ways, fearing they'd all go banzi to the last woman and child wielding sharp broomsticks if we pushed them too hard on owning up to what they did. And while nobody's going to make a human wave assault with sticks over it today, all that's still in play with certain Japanese/Asian cultural aspects in terms of honor and saving-face. And younger generations that just see WWII as a generic "war" over economics and whatever, without the darker aspects of "We've got a divine right to rule all this other sub-human filth." that motivated Imperial Japan from the 1930's to 1945, to add some context.

So Japan didn't get their "noses rubbed in it" in the way the Allies did with Germany. And the Germans even did more of it all on their own. (Arguably, Germany has gone too far in the other direction in some ways.) And that's assuming an actual meaningful full-blown apology and acknowledgement of Imperial Japanese WWII atrocities would actually help with other Asian countries supporting increased Japanese militarization. Instead, over the decades, Japan has issued a series of wishy-washy "statements of regret", but not outright apologies because of all that. And in practical terms of Japanese realpolitik, the Japanese Parliamentary system and certain hard-line political parties/factions would immediately cause a big internal backlash, making such apologies impossible.

And if all that could be ignored, Japan's demographic decline and economy can only support so much. They don't have America's largest military asset, the US Dollar, and it's ability to spread across the globe as the #1 world reserve currency and the Petrodollar, which enables the Fed Reserve to print dollars incessantly, and (usually) avoid intolerable inflation, and the Congressional deficit spending on a huge defense spending program. Japan just can't do it, even if they had the manpower, and the regional political or cultural realties needed to run a significantly bigger war machine.


Absolutly, none of the Asian nations are bound to forget Japanese aggression in 1937 to 1942 and the instigation of the Asia-Pacific War, they were brutal. You are also spot on that they got off a lot less than their Axis counterparts in Europe. I am sure they are going to count on relying on the USA to protect them militarily.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 5:32:15 AM EDT
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Population decline isn't a problem for society.  It's a problem for government funding and government liabilities. We aren't terribly far behind.  If you are not already retired we actually need immigrants to fund social security medicare ect.    So few people plan to fund their own retirement .  If SS isn't there a chunk of the nation falls into extreme poverty or one of two alternatives.  Financial collapse for the government or they are going to raise taxes to insane levels to try and stay funded and murder the economy driving everyone else into poverty.

Population decline is dangerous for nations that depends on neverending growth to sustain the pyramid.  Especially when they run massive deficit already


Link Posted: 1/24/2023 5:38:14 AM EDT
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Kishida's role is to get the government to focus on this problem and start to make meaningful changes, but it's a generation too late...

There has been a culmination of issues over the past 20 years that have really pushed this problem, and finally, the Japanese government can not ignore it (especially the National Tax Agency).

Both my wife and I are working on various projects and academic study groups to come up with solutions, it's a nightmare to be honest. I mentor young Japanese men and women, and mostly I explain what to do on a date... Technology is a major problem (especially for young men, and especially porn), but there are deeper issues that have to be resolved and are cultural.

If anyone is interested I can explain what is happening on the political, social, cultural, economic, educational, and unfortunately biological issues. Japan is going to be a data point for the west on how to tackle depopulation and the loss of the agricultural workforce, and the trend to move from smaller cities to major cities like Osaka and Tokyo.

It's an existential problem.


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It seems they aren't that open to immigrants. It's a beautiful country. I'd imagine a killer deals on a farm property would attract plenty of people if Japan was more open to immigration.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 6:08:07 AM EDT
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With a huge bush.

Hard pass.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 6:17:25 AM EDT
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So completely rewriting the rules and function of society has consequences? I'll be darned.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 6:18:38 AM EDT
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Population decline isn't a problem for society.  It's a problem for government funding and government liabilities.

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Population decline isn't a problem for society.  It's a problem for government funding and government liabilities.



Phew, thank God we made that differentiation.
No way "society" collapses in such a scenario, because we all strictly agree to the rules™, in spite of gubmint issued money being 99% of what people use.


We aren't terribly far behind.  If you are not already retired we actually need immigrants to fund social security medicare ect.    So few people plan to fund their own retirement .  If SS isn't there a chunk of the nation falls into extreme poverty or one of two alternatives.  Financial collapse for the government or they are going to raise taxes to insane levels to try and stay funded and murder the economy driving everyone else into poverty.

Population decline is dangerous for nations that depends on neverending growth to sustain the pyramid.  Especially when they run massive deficit already


We've had mass immigration since the late 60s (the new kind), and yet this seems to be a perennial problem. Maybe importing
people isn't an actual solution at all. More akin to a bandaid that doesn't actually seal the wound, in my estimation
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 7:09:28 AM EDT
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Japanese men are worked to death and Japanese women are less interested in being ignored and cheated on.

I know LOTS of legitimately gorgeous Japanese women who can't find good dates. They can't find guys who are interested in anything but gaming or TV.

It's very confusing and it seems a lot of women give up and just hang out with their friends. Sad.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 7:14:39 AM EDT
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That's like trying to solve your village's shortage of drinking water by having everyone piss in the town well.
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That kind of comment will just give Democrats justification for opening the floodgates on illegal immigration, even though we see how well that worked out for the Romans.

That ship has sailed long ago. Every other military recruiting or birth rate article I’ve read recommends more immigration at the end of the article as a solution.
84 million immigrants and their family already in our 333 million population not including the 5 million that just walked across the border.
That's like trying to solve your village's shortage of drinking water by having everyone piss in the town well.

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 7:20:06 AM EDT
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I would have loved to help them out when I was on Guam but all those Japanese women seemed interested in was taking selfies on the beach.  All day, every day.

A couple of my buddies went up and down Gun Beach with a cooler of beer and must have hit on hundreds of Japanese women on vacation there and not a single bite.  They put a lot more effort into it than I would have.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 7:42:50 AM EDT
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They need more south Americans
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 7:44:00 AM EDT
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Having Kids in Japan / ?????????
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:14:54 AM EDT
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It's the same problem here too. It's a global problem. The only countries that are procreating are third world shitholes. Welcome to the future.

Remember in the 70s when everyone was freaking out about the looming overpopulation crisis?

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:27:45 AM EDT
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When the internet was created, did anybody predict that it would lead to the downfall of civilization?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 10:30:07 AM EDT
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Phew, thank God we made that differentiation.
No way "society" collapses in such a scenario, because we all strictly agree to the rules , in spite of gubmint issued money being 99% of what people use.




We've had mass immigration since the late 60s (the new kind), and yet this seems to be a perennial problem. Maybe importing
people isn't an actual solution at all. More akin to a bandaid that doesn't actually seal the wound, in my estimation
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Pretty much.  Not spending money you don't have and hoping for future funding you don't have to sustain programs without a fixed cost would be the best path.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 10:31:31 AM EDT
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Just wait till the jab kicks in.
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Can't have their Luciferian global govt without the submission and collapse of dominant economies.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 2:41:27 PM EDT
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Based on my limited exposure to Japanese work culture, drinking, working, and flogging the dog are all more important than family over there.  

The government, despite some strong efforts, cannot convince men to leave work and make babies.  So weird.
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Between their own version of extreme materialism & high cost of living, tge ridiculous social pressure on men to be successful, & - if what I've heard is true - the cultural norm that prohibits, or just frowns on, young men even approaching a woman without her father's permission, I don’t think there's a fix outside of discarding the contemporary culture. They seem to be hard-wired to this destiny. Lots of no-win built into it. I can see why guys are saying "fuck it" & checking out.

Something's gotta give.
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Pure bloods don't want to pollute their gene pool with inferior races...by lowering their overall IQ and work ethic.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:21:29 PM EDT
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[Lengthy, outstanding post.  Trimmed for brevity.  Go read it though.]

...The internal combustion engine, taking on the form of the modern farm tractor, ended the era of America being a significant agrarian economy, in terms of employment and lifestyle for good. And cemented our existence as a majority urban/suburban industrial economy. And WWII, the Baby Boomers, and the post-war decades of America being the last-man-standing economically... none of that was going to last forever.
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This is fantastic.  Thank you for writing it.

I would just add that, in my limited experience with Japanese nationals, young professional women want very much NOT to be married, as marriage drastically changes their social standing and quality of life, and not for the better.  One of my clients introduced me to his partner, as he termed it.  She and he were basically married, but this way she still had her job and wasn't relegated to being a housewife.

Given those pressures, I'm not surprised that Japanese women are following the path of other societies' women, when those women attain greater choices and social mobility.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:22:54 PM EDT
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JPN wants to keep the nation pure-breed Japanese. But they "screwed the pooch" by providing generous social programs, and of course that costs bunches of money. The current generation of Japanase is taxed to the max, so they can't afford to raise 1 or 2 kids, or in many cases zero kids.

Plus the new generation of working Japanese women; contrary to what the news media wants you to believe that men can have children too, it is not so simple. The USA is trudging down the same path, but because the US economy is so huge, it is being covered up.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:22:59 PM EDT
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Is this sarcasm?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:32:17 PM EDT
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Kishida's role is to get the government to focus on this problem and start to make meaningful changes, but it's a generation too late...

There has been a culmination of issues over the past 20 years that have really pushed this problem, and finally, the Japanese government can not ignore it (especially the National Tax Agency).

Both my wife and I are working on various projects and academic study groups to come up with solutions, it's a nightmare to be honest. I mentor young Japanese men and women, and mostly I explain what to do on a date... Technology is a major problem (especially for young men, and especially porn), but there are deeper issues that have to be resolved and are cultural.

If anyone is interested I can explain what is happening on the political, social, cultural, economic, educational, and unfortunately biological issues. Japan is going to be a data point for the west on how to tackle depopulation and the loss of the agricultural workforce, and the trend to move from smaller cities to major cities like Osaka and Tokyo.

It's an existential problem.


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Sure.  I'd be interested in reading it.

Any parallels you think, in the similar problem the PRC is going through, and their attempts to increase the size of their worker/taxpaying base?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:35:05 PM EDT
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Absolutly, none of the Asian nations are bound to forget Japanese aggression in 1937 to 1942 and the instigation of the Asia-Pacific War, they were brutal. You are also spot on that they got off a lot less than their Axis counterparts in Europe. I am sure they are going to count on relying on the USA to protect them militarily.
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I hope someone rekindles that spark in the young men of Japan. It's about time, and the Pacific won't stay calm forever.
It won't happen, not to any significant degree anyway. The first reason is their own constitution, that General MacArthur handed them. They could re-draft it, but it's a huge undertaking.

Everyone but the Norks giving China nervous side-eye isn't enough to completely overcome the institutionalized base hatred most all of Asia feels towards Japan. And because of that, they won't accept Japan re-militarizing significantly past their current level. Most of Asia isn't interested in a significantly more militarized Japan, except as a talking-point against Chinese attempts at regional hegemony. And in part, the feelings towards Japan are exacerbated by the unique situation of the US occupation WWII. We gave them the kid-glove treatment in some ways, fearing they'd all go banzi to the last woman and child wielding sharp broomsticks if we pushed them too hard on owning up to what they did. And while nobody's going to make a human wave assault with sticks over it today, all that's still in play with certain Japanese/Asian cultural aspects in terms of honor and saving-face. And younger generations that just see WWII as a generic "war" over economics and whatever, without the darker aspects of "We've got a divine right to rule all this other sub-human filth." that motivated Imperial Japan from the 1930's to 1945, to add some context.

So Japan didn't get their "noses rubbed in it" in the way the Allies did with Germany. And the Germans even did more of it all on their own. (Arguably, Germany has gone too far in the other direction in some ways.) And that's assuming an actual meaningful full-blown apology and acknowledgement of Imperial Japanese WWII atrocities would actually help with other Asian countries supporting increased Japanese militarization. Instead, over the decades, Japan has issued a series of wishy-washy "statements of regret", but not outright apologies because of all that. And in practical terms of Japanese realpolitik, the Japanese Parliamentary system and certain hard-line political parties/factions would immediately cause a big internal backlash, making such apologies impossible.

And if all that could be ignored, Japan's demographic decline and economy can only support so much. They don't have America's largest military asset, the US Dollar, and it's ability to spread across the globe as the #1 world reserve currency and the Petrodollar, which enables the Fed Reserve to print dollars incessantly, and (usually) avoid intolerable inflation, and the Congressional deficit spending on a huge defense spending program. Japan just can't do it, even if they had the manpower, and the regional political or cultural realties needed to run a significantly bigger war machine.


Absolutly, none of the Asian nations are bound to forget Japanese aggression in 1937 to 1942 and the instigation of the Asia-Pacific War, they were brutal. You are also spot on that they got off a lot less than their Axis counterparts in Europe. I am sure they are going to count on relying on the USA to protect them militarily.


Interested in getting Shelties's view on your last paragraph, but my initial thought is:  that was nearly 80 years ago.  Was there gigantic butthurt in, e.g., Texas in 1945 about the depredations of the Comanche just after that time?  Besides making them a successful villain class in Hollywood along with Krauts and Nips?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:36:54 PM EDT
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It would be wonderful if the Japanese could address their millennia worth of severe psychological baggage. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that work is not even going to begin until after their society completely collapses.

“Work harder you miserable slackers!”
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Caged animals don't breed well.

The work culture in Japan is brutal and there is no safety net for men like bankruptcy.  It has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, if not the highest, and that's for a reason man.

Americans think we're stressed out, our culture isn't even half as stressful as the Japanese business culture.

Japan is not a society in balance. It's been out of balance for a very long time now and that has had an impact on the quality of life for its people. If you want a good birth rate you need people who aren't stressed out and overworked.



It would be wonderful if the Japanese could address their millennia worth of severe psychological baggage. But it’s becoming increasingly clear that work is not even going to begin until after their society completely collapses.

“Work harder you miserable slackers!”


Yeah, I mean when you have a society with the highest suicide rate and the lowest birth rate that's not a sign of a healthy culture.  

They literally are working themselves into extinction.

Life has to have some balance.  

This should be a warning to China, the USA, and other nations.  You can't work people so damn hard.  The 40 hour work week was established largely as a result of the industrial revolution and frankly the hard fight by labor unions.  We have never revisited the work week since the Information Revolution and I think it's time to do so.   I have long said that we need to move down to a 32 hour work week for most jobs.  Automation and the fast rate provided by technology should allow that by now.  Instead, we have an attitude that output should infinitely increase and that's a recipe for disaster.

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Japanese men are worked to death and Japanese women are less interested in being ignored and cheated on.

I know LOTS of legitimately gorgeous Japanese women who can't find good dates. They can't find guys who are interested in anything but gaming or TV.

It's very confusing and it seems a lot of women give up and just hang out with their friends. Sad.
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Want to date a successful male in Japan? You cant majority of successful males in japan are working 80+ hours a week. Date a "looser"? He is working 60+ hours a week.
The only way to make this work is to be a stay at home mom. And even than? Why? You will get as much time and affection as you would from a side piece.
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Always
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Yup.  America's population would be declining if it weren't for immigration (in all its forms.)  Yet the "we're overcrowding the planet" message is only broadcast to those who are already in decline...India and [perpetually starving] Africa are the problem, yet they are always exempt.
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This is the wrong place to ask that question.
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And racism

Edited to say I meant wacism.
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Overpopulation is not a problem, even in India and Africa.  That's a false narrative.
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Japanese men are worked to death and Japanese women are less interested in being ignored and cheated on.

I know LOTS of legitimately gorgeous Japanese women who can't find good dates. They can't find guys who are interested in anything but gaming or TV.

It's very confusing and it seems a lot of women give up and just hang out with their friends. Sad.
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WGTOW thread
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…..and listen to a dying rabbit…
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Kind of true though. I'm shocked by it. Japan society's rules kind of suck to live in if you're Japanese.
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Sounds like you solved it. All those demographic strategists in Japan can go home, you got it from here.
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