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Posted: 8/19/2015 2:55:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His money will be long gone after the civil suits are done and he will have no way of earning any money. He'll be broke and working for minimum wage at some shitty job that doesn't mind having a pedophile on staff. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For those thinking Jared's life is completely over: consider by the time he gets out of prison he'll be in his 40's with probably at least $10M. His reputation and almost all of his relationships will be ruined, but that's enough money to move to a far away tropical paradise and live like a king. Definitely a better ending that most diddlers get. His money will be long gone after the civil suits are done and he will have no way of earning any money. He'll be broke and working for minimum wage at some shitty job that doesn't mind having a pedophile on staff. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 2:57:56 PM EST
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A 40 something bangs a 17 year old. If he were a female teacher members here would celebrate. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:06:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Work an issue long enough and patterns will emerge. There are all sorts of little tells and "alarm bells" that go off when preparing and auditing a tax payer's tax return. It's interesting to see the look on a taxpayers' face when you can tell them their entire story (which they were trying to hide from you) from a few key details they did not think mattered in the slightest. If possible, could you share some of those alarm bells for those of us fortunate enough to have never worked with/been around sexual predators? I knew an FBI agent who worked child porn cases. I could never do his job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree. I know from people that work with child sex abuse victims that when you meet the perps all sorts of alarm bells go off in your head. ... Work an issue long enough and patterns will emerge. There are all sorts of little tells and "alarm bells" that go off when preparing and auditing a tax payer's tax return. It's interesting to see the look on a taxpayers' face when you can tell them their entire story (which they were trying to hide from you) from a few key details they did not think mattered in the slightest. If possible, could you share some of those alarm bells for those of us fortunate enough to have never worked with/been around sexual predators? I knew an FBI agent who worked child porn cases. I could never do his job. The big one is an inability to navigate the adult world. Child sex predators often feel more comfortable with children, uncomfortable with adults. The middle aged successful male with family, friends, and age-appropriate interests is relatively rare in the child sex offense circles, though it does happen. However, the number that can't hold a conversation with an adult, or even know how to act with other adults present, is very telling. So if you have someone that just seems "off" around you? Yeah, keep your eye on them. This also goes for women, too, by the way. There are women that are sex offenders, too, and I'm not talking about school teachers with 17 year old male students. And also an adult male that is still "caught in adolescence" can cross the line. So, a guy still living in his mom's basement, lots of games and toys, AND NO ADULT FRIENDS, is another indicator. If a 35 year old basement dweller has lots of 14 year olds as friends, and no real adult friends, watch out. It used to be a joke around here 20 years ago that just about every child molester that was being caught lived in his mom's basement and drove a blue volkswagen Beetle. Seriously, they caught like 10 guys in one year like that. It was oddly specific. Doubt it's that way anymore. The thing is, a majority of those guys "caught in adolescence" were sexually abused themselves as adolescents. From that they lose trust of adults and stay in that youth phase, unable to move forward. However, they still have sexual desires, and they act them out on the people they feel comfortable with. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:07:43 PM EST
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A 40 something bangs a 17 year old. If he were a female teacher members here would celebrate. You're painting with a pretty broad brush. If all they had on him was sex with a 17 YO prostitute, not many people would give a shit, and he wouldn't be copping a plea and taking the significant jail time. They got him dead to rights. He knows it, and the Feds know it. The cash settlements are to head off further civil suits. I'm sure the receivers are signing their rights away to sue him. His wife will get the rest. Maybe when he gets out, he can work as a sandwich artist at Subway 
I still say he will off himself before he spends a day in jail. He's out on a ankle monitor now, I think. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:09:26 PM EST
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A 17 year old I dont have a problem with (except the fact she was a hooker, but thats another topic) but the fact he was asking the escort services for 14 and 15 year olds??? This guy needs to be violently raped in prison on a daily basis until he cant tell the difference between his butt and a test bench in a plunger factory....
What a complete POS... He had it made, and then he's a pedophile... 
I wonder if the liberals will be protesting subway and saying eating at subway makes people pedophiles... |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:12:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A 17 year old I dont have a problem with (except the fact she was a hooker, but thats another topic) but the fact he was asking the escort services for 14 and 15 year olds??? This guy needs to be violently raped in prison on a daily basis until he cant tell the difference between his butt and a test bench in a plunger factory.... What a complete POS... He had it made, and then he's a pedophile... I wonder if the liberals will be protesting subway and saying eating at subway makes people pedophiles... Probably, but mostly due to their normal cognitive inabilities to sort things out. I really hope nobody boycotts Subway over this. They didn't know. The franchisees didn't know. And Sue making the sandwiches didn't know. Hell, I had Subway for lunch, I might do it for dinner, too. Nobody working there needs to lose a cent over what Fogle did. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:15:06 PM EST
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The big one is an inability to navigate the adult world. Child sex predators often feel more comfortable with children, uncomfortable with adults. The middle aged successful male with family, friends, and age-appropriate interests is relatively rare in the child sex offense circles, though it does happen. However, the number that can't hold a conversation with an adult, or even know how to act with other adults present, is very telling. So if you have someone that just seems "off" around you? Yeah, keep your eye on them. This also goes for women, too, by the way. There are women that are sex offenders, too, and I'm not talking about school teachers with 17 year old male students. And also an adult male that is still "caught in adolescence" can cross the line. So, a guy still living in his mom's basement, lots of games and toys, AND NO ADULT FRIENDS, is another indicator. If a 35 year old basement dweller has lots of 14 year olds as friends, and no real adult friends, watch out. It used to be a joke around here 20 years ago that just about every child molester that was being caught lived in his mom's basement and drove a blue volkswagen Beetle. Seriously, they caught like 10 guys in one year like that. It was oddly specific. Doubt it's that way anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The big one is an inability to navigate the adult world. Child sex predators often feel more comfortable with children, uncomfortable with adults. The middle aged successful male with family, friends, and age-appropriate interests is relatively rare in the child sex offense circles, though it does happen. However, the number that can't hold a conversation with an adult, or even know how to act with other adults present, is very telling. So if you have someone that just seems "off" around you? Yeah, keep your eye on them. This also goes for women, too, by the way. There are women that are sex offenders, too, and I'm not talking about school teachers with 17 year old male students. And also an adult male that is still "caught in adolescence" can cross the line. So, a guy still living in his mom's basement, lots of games and toys, AND NO ADULT FRIENDS, is another indicator. If a 35 year old basement dweller has lots of 14 year olds as friends, and no real adult friends, watch out. It used to be a joke around here 20 years ago that just about every child molester that was being caught lived in his mom's basement and drove a blue volkswagen Beetle. Seriously, they caught like 10 guys in one year like that. It was oddly specific. Doubt it's that way anymore. That is so alien to me.... I can't even wrap my head around it. Some guy checking out from reality, living with his parents and playing video games? Yeah, I can kinda, sorta understand people wasting their lives doing this. A grown adult with 14 year old "friends" in social settings (not a teacher, coach, preacher with a youth group, etc)? Yikes. Quoted:The thing is, a majority of those guys "caught in adolescence" were sexually abused themselves as adolescents. From that they lose trust of adults and stay in that youth phase, unable to move forward. However, they still have sexual desires, and they act them out on the people they feel comfortable with.
Sexual abuse at a young age seems to be a common denominator regarding many "issues" people seem to face. A child is sexually abuse by a grade A P.O.S. who in turn grows up to molest children thus repeating the cycle. Lovely. We don't have trees high enough. 
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:15:17 PM EST
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HOLEE FUUUUCK
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:20:38 PM EST
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neckbeard all along...such a disappointing person
can you imagine how many people he actually changed the lives of, many people probably looked up to him sick...just sick |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:27:21 PM EST
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I agree. I know from people that work with child sex abuse victims that when you meet the perps all sorts of alarm bells go off in your head. Children don't have a well-calibrated alarm system so they can more easily be taken advantage of and the creeps know this. However, even the kids have an inkling of this is wrong, but they haven't been trained to trust in that feeling and act on it. I honestly think that parents should sit down and people watch with their kid, asking the kid, "What about him? Freak or not?" and have the kid respond. If they get it all the time, good, if not, keep pointing out the weirdos until the kid spots them on their own. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously, who here didn't think Jared was creepy as fuck going way back? This. In these days of inclusion and acceptance , your instinct that you were born with that says " That fucker is weird. Stay the Fuck away from that weird Fuck." is correct . You should also warn others of the weird Fuck you see. Not sarcasm. Where's the like post button? Daniel I agree. I know from people that work with child sex abuse victims that when you meet the perps all sorts of alarm bells go off in your head. Children don't have a well-calibrated alarm system so they can more easily be taken advantage of and the creeps know this. However, even the kids have an inkling of this is wrong, but they haven't been trained to trust in that feeling and act on it. I honestly think that parents should sit down and people watch with their kid, asking the kid, "What about him? Freak or not?" and have the kid respond. If they get it all the time, good, if not, keep pointing out the weirdos until the kid spots them on their own. Clearly, the Subway advertising gurus had faulty alarm bells. 
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:28:18 PM EST
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So how much time is he looking at ?
15 years ??? |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:29:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is so alien to me.... I can't even wrap my head around it. Some guy checking out from reality, living with his parents and playing video games? Yeah, I can kinda, sorta understand people wasting their lives doing this. A grown adult with 14 year old "friends" in social settings (not a teacher, coach, preacher with a youth group, etc)? Yikes. Sexual abuse at a young age seems to be a common denominator regarding many "issues" people seem to face. A child is sexually abuse by a grade A P.O.S. who in turn grows up to molest children thus repeating the cycle. Lovely. We don't have trees high enough. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The big one is an inability to navigate the adult world. Child sex predators often feel more comfortable with children, uncomfortable with adults. The middle aged successful male with family, friends, and age-appropriate interests is relatively rare in the child sex offense circles, though it does happen. However, the number that can't hold a conversation with an adult, or even know how to act with other adults present, is very telling. So if you have someone that just seems "off" around you? Yeah, keep your eye on them. This also goes for women, too, by the way. There are women that are sex offenders, too, and I'm not talking about school teachers with 17 year old male students. And also an adult male that is still "caught in adolescence" can cross the line. So, a guy still living in his mom's basement, lots of games and toys, AND NO ADULT FRIENDS, is another indicator. If a 35 year old basement dweller has lots of 14 year olds as friends, and no real adult friends, watch out. It used to be a joke around here 20 years ago that just about every child molester that was being caught lived in his mom's basement and drove a blue volkswagen Beetle. Seriously, they caught like 10 guys in one year like that. It was oddly specific. Doubt it's that way anymore. That is so alien to me.... I can't even wrap my head around it. Some guy checking out from reality, living with his parents and playing video games? Yeah, I can kinda, sorta understand people wasting their lives doing this. A grown adult with 14 year old "friends" in social settings (not a teacher, coach, preacher with a youth group, etc)? Yikes. Quoted:The thing is, a majority of those guys "caught in adolescence" were sexually abused themselves as adolescents. From that they lose trust of adults and stay in that youth phase, unable to move forward. However, they still have sexual desires, and they act them out on the people they feel comfortable with. Sexual abuse at a young age seems to be a common denominator regarding many "issues" people seem to face. A child is sexually abuse by a grade A P.O.S. who in turn grows up to molest children thus repeating the cycle. Lovely. We don't have trees high enough. There was a case where a sheriff's deputy in the 60's molested teenage boys that he caught breaking the law in exchange for him not arresting them. One of them as an adult started a dancing school in the 80's, where he molested teenage boys. And some of those teenage boys grew up to molest boys in rec center athletic programs in the 90's and 2000's. Of course, it was a case where the recent kid victims were discovered, and tracing back the behaviours the DA was able to bring more people into it. The dance instructor and the deputy walked though. It was like some kind of weird vampire bloodline thing where you had one initial vampire infecting others, and generation by generation, it grew and grew. Had that deputy been stopped in the 1960's, no joke, hundreds of victims would have been spared. And why he wasn't stopped (he was actually caught back then) is another story about class and southern politics that will turn your stomach. But that's a tale for another day. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 3:52:08 PM EST
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There was a case where a sheriff's deputy in the 60's molested teenage boys that he caught breaking the law in exchange for him not arresting them. One of them as an adult started a dancing school in the 80's, where he molested teenage boys. And some of those teenage boys grew up to molest boys in rec center athletic programs in the 90's and 2000's. Of course, it was a case where the recent kid victims were discovered, and tracing back the behaviours the DA was able to bring more people into it. The dance instructor and the deputy walked though. It was like some kind of weird vampire bloodline thing where you had one initial vampire infecting others, and generation by generation, it grew and grew. Had that deputy been stopped in the 1960's, no joke, hundreds of victims would have been spared. And why he wasn't stopped (he was actually caught back then) is another story about class and southern politics that will turn your stomach. But that's a tale for another day. I had some very unpleasant thoughts reading that.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 4:39:26 PM EST
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Probably, but mostly due to their normal cognitive inabilities to sort things out. I really hope nobody boycotts Subway over this. They didn't know. The franchisees didn't know. And Sue making the sandwiches didn't know. Hell, I had Subway for lunch, I might do it for dinner, too. Nobody working there needs to lose a cent over what Fogle did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. Probably, but mostly due to their normal cognitive inabilities to sort things out. I really hope nobody boycotts Subway over this. They didn't know. The franchisees didn't know. And Sue making the sandwiches didn't know. Hell, I had Subway for lunch, I might do it for dinner, too. Nobody working there needs to lose a cent over what Fogle did. Out of curiosity, how old is Sue? 
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Posted: 8/19/2015 4:40:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who doubts this has only to google "normalizing pedophilia" and just read the titles that come up. Reading the articles is optional, as the titles alone are chilling. It's happening. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just think, in a few years this won't be a crime. It will be considered "normal" as homosexuality is today. The move is already underway, as predicted by radio talk show host "Dr. Laura" more than ten years ago. Minors can't consent. I have no idea why the slippery slope crowd keeps glossing over this incredibly important distinction. Because the age of consent is set by law and custom, not some derivative of the cosmos? I can't understand how that point can be missed really. Yep. All of the above. Soon it will just be "his preference". Totally normal, right?? Born that way. Not his fault. His rights are being trampled!Anyone who doubts this has only to google "normalizing pedophilia" and just read the titles that come up. Reading the articles is optional, as the titles alone are chilling. It's happening. https://business.facebook.com/newnownext/photos/pb.204318022960669.-2207520000.1435599540./911224158936715/?type=1&theater |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 4:44:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So how much time is he looking at ? 15 years ??? |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 4:49:06 PM EST
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If the judge accepts the plea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how much time is he looking at ? 15 years ??? If the judge accepts the plea, 12.5 will be the possible max. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 4:59:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out of curiosity, how old is Sue? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: . Probably, but mostly due to their normal cognitive inabilities to sort things out. I really hope nobody boycotts Subway over this. They didn't know. The franchisees didn't know. And Sue making the sandwiches didn't know. Hell, I had Subway for lunch, I might do it for dinner, too. Nobody working there needs to lose a cent over what Fogle did. Out of curiosity, how old is Sue? Sue looked to be a middle-aged black woman with a friendly voice. Big girl, but moved quick on her feet. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:03:31 PM EST
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He had to know the jig was up months ago when that other guy got
busted. If I was looking at serious jail time and no life afterwards I would have ate bullet. His life is essentially over. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:09:37 PM EST
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He had to know the jig was up months ago when that other guy got busted. If I was looking at serious jail time and no life afterwards I would have ate bullet. His life is essentially over. I'm a bit surprised he didn't start trying to destroy evidence as soon as his buddy was arrested, unless there was too much to destroy. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:14:22 PM EST
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I wouldn't be shocked if Subway is paying him to plea. Last thing they want is for several weeks of a highly public trial where they mention Subway in the same sentence as pederast on the news every night.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:15:08 PM EST
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Sue looked to be a middle-aged black woman with a friendly voice. Big girl, but moved quick on her feet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. Probably, but mostly due to their normal cognitive inabilities to sort things out. I really hope nobody boycotts Subway over this. They didn't know. The franchisees didn't know. And Sue making the sandwiches didn't know. Hell, I had Subway for lunch, I might do it for dinner, too. Nobody working there needs to lose a cent over what Fogle did. Out of curiosity, how old is Sue? Sue looked to be a middle-aged black woman with a friendly voice. Big girl, but moved quick on her feet. Ah, too old then. Safe from Jared.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:36:14 PM EST
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I thought I heard that he was sentenced to 10 years.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:48:25 PM EST
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A coworker of mine went to college with him. He said he was the laziest sob he had ever seen. Mind you this was when he was a giant fat ass. He said he would wait 15 minutes for a bus rather than walk for 2 or 3 minutes.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:59:25 PM EST
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He had to know the jig was up months ago when that other guy got busted. If I was looking at serious jail time and no life afterwards I would have ate bullet. His life is essentially over. That's what's "interesting" about pedos who are GUILTY... they rarely seem to have the conscience that allows them to feel enough guilt to eat a bullet -- even if just to avoid the suffering of incarceration, etc. Of course, lack of honor is pretty universal among the criminal element anyways. I was raised in a religious family. A big part of many religions is the condemnation of pornography. I get it, in terms of the damage that it can cause to families, relationships, etc. Anyways... I was feeling particularly guilty regarding my viewing of porn (large-breast-centric) at one point in my young life and went to my clergy and "confessed". He asked if I'd ever viewed or felt compelled to view child porn. I said "ABSOLUTELY NOT... I WOULD KILL MYSELF BEFORE THAT EVER HAPPENED.". And I meant it. But of course, that's because I'm a NORMAL red-blooded male who desires WOMEN, not children. Kiddie diddlers don't seem to feel guilt over their sexual trigger. They really are like a sick animal. I don't see how you can really reform a pedo. You might be successful in getting them to understand that they will pay severe consequences for their actions if they choose to act... but you won't change their sexual trigger to be something different. Just like you won't convince me not to drool over big boobies. Or a gay guy not to drool over some nasty hairy man-butt.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 5:59:37 PM EST
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Pudgy shut-in with milquetoast persona and no girlfriends = homo.
Eat fresh dick! |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 6:20:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a bit surprised he didn't start trying to destroy evidence as soon as his buddy was arrested, unless there was too much to destroy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He had to know the jig was up months ago when that other guy got busted. If I was looking at serious jail time and no life afterwards I would have ate bullet. His life is essentially over. I'm a bit surprised he didn't start trying to destroy evidence as soon as his buddy was arrested, unless there was too much to destroy. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 6:58:59 PM EST
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Minors can't consent. I have no idea why the slippery slope crowd keeps glossing over this incredibly important distinction. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just think, in a few years this won't be a crime. It will be considered "normal" as homosexuality is today. The move is already underway, as predicted by radio talk show host "Dr. Laura" more than ten years ago. Minors can't consent. I have no idea why the slippery slope crowd keeps glossing over this incredibly important distinction. Exactly. It's not even remotely similar. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 8:31:01 PM EST
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Years ago when I first saw those subway commercials I thought the guy gave a odd vibe . I thought possibly it was just a result of him being socially awkward because he had grown up so big .
Wonder if the overeating and bad self image was the result of somebody messing with him as a kid ? Regardless of the reason , broken and twisted still bad no mater what might have kicked it into gear |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 9:03:07 PM EST
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I'm a bit surprised he didn't start trying to destroy evidence as soon as his buddy was arrested, unless there was too much to destroy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He had to know the jig was up months ago when that other guy got busted. If I was looking at serious jail time and no life afterwards I would have ate bullet. His life is essentially over. I'm a bit surprised he didn't start trying to destroy evidence as soon as his buddy was arrested, unless there was too much to destroy. Hillary Clinton must be thinking " ha, what an amateur". |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 10:02:43 PM EST
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And then the lawsuits from the victims will also take a share. I'm sure when pedo Jared gets out of prison he will most likely have more in the bank than the typical felon. Hopefully his time in jail is filled with exciting adventures. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those thinking Jared's life is completely over: consider by the time he gets out of prison he'll be in his 40's with probably at least $10M. His reputation and almost all of his relationships will be ruined, but that's enough money to move to a far away tropical paradise and live like a king. Definitely a better ending that most diddlers get. His current wife will take some of that $10M. And then the lawsuits from the victims will also take a share. I'm sure when pedo Jared gets out of prison he will most likely have more in the bank than the typical felon. Hopefully his time in jail is filled with exciting adventures. I was pissed when I saw $100,000 to each victim. That won't even cover counseling, much less the emotional trauma. Of course, he is probably not the only one that victimized them. Then I thought, his admission of criminal guilt opens the door for civil guilt. I think even if the wife gets all his money in the divorce, it will not be exempt in civil court, because it could be argued that he is trying to protect it for his assets from, the victims. I also wonder is Subway promising to take care of his wife and kids in return for him to take the plea. What do the lawyers here think? I never liked him. Actually, I always wanted to punch him in the nose when I saw him on TV. He had that oddness about him and I never could figure out why Subway had this strange fascination with him and made him the creepy face of the franchise. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 10:14:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the judge accepts the plea, 12.5 will be the possible max. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So how much time is he looking at ? 15 years ??? If the judge accepts the plea, 12.5 will be the possible max. The plea and the agreement the U.S. attorney made to recommend a sentencing maximum of 15 years are two different things. Judge can accept the plea with the proper colloquy and then sentence how he sees fit. And max will be a hair over 12.75 actual time in camp (be real, he'll be in a prison camp) if he is sentenced to 15. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:05:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on what they charged the first guy with, it sounds like there was a ring going on which involved the production of materials. Definitely bigger fish involved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like he just turned state's evidence. They probably had enough to bury him and gave up some bigger fish in return for protective incarceration. Gen-pop would be a living hell for him. The Aryans and the Crips would be high-fiving each other as they tortured him. I'm sure Subway will breath a sigh of relief that this doesn't go to (a very public) trial. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:11:36 PM EST
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Nasty fucker |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:19:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nasty fucker |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:22:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just think, in a few years this won't be a crime. It will be considered "normal" as homosexuality is today. The move is already underway, as predicted by radio talk show host "Dr. Laura" more than ten years ago. You really should be removed as staff. I agree with him. You guys do realize this, right? |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:25:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought I heard that he was sentenced to 10 years. Not sure if that's true or not. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:29:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand the muddled bullshit reporting about this issue, I suppose. They say he had sex with a minor, a 17 year old, as if that's a crime. When it wasn't a crime in that state at all. Hell, having sex with a 16 year old is legal in 30 states. If he plead guilty to having sex with someone properly below the age of consent, that's fine. But what has been reported does not meet that requirement. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't have time to read all the comments, but did want to point something out. Not defending him, but the only person that the article says he had sex with was the 17 year old, in New York City. The age of consent in New York is 17. He did not break the law. It's probably not right, but other than paying for the sex, the age is not a legal issue. That he was trying to find someone younger is very bad, but it didn't say if he actually had sex with anyone under age. I have friends that are escorts (won't post pics, don't ask) and they do get clients that want younger girls. It's not an uncommon request. The answer is always "no". Totally skeeves an escort out when you ask that since most of them were sexually abused as young girls. One of my friends had a client, a local college professor that I knew (went to church with him and his family), that would have her dress up as a young school girl and come to his office at the college so he could play out a teacher-schoolgirl fantasy. He didn't actually want a young girl, just someone to pretend who could look the part. My friend still couldn't stomach it and she stopped seeing him. I think a Lolita fantasy is somewhat common among older men for some reason. It would not surprise me that even though he was asking, Fogler couldn't find anyone that would help him out. Now, the child porn thing? Yeah, he's probably caught dead to rights. Actual sex with someone under age? That seems more gray. What part of pleading guilty do you not understand? I don't understand the muddled bullshit reporting about this issue, I suppose. They say he had sex with a minor, a 17 year old, as if that's a crime. When it wasn't a crime in that state at all. Hell, having sex with a 16 year old is legal in 30 states. If he plead guilty to having sex with someone properly below the age of consent, that's fine. But what has been reported does not meet that requirement. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:31:14 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 17 is the age of consent in many states You can legally fuck a 17 year old, but taking a picture of them naked is illegal. Our legal system is wonderful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just think, in a few years this won't be a crime. It will be considered "normal" as homosexuality is today. The move is already underway, as predicted by radio talk show host "Dr. Laura" more than ten years ago. Minors can't consent. I have no idea why the slippery slope crowd keeps glossing over this incredibly important distinction. 17 is the age of consent in many states You can legally fuck a 17 year old, but taking a picture of them naked is illegal. Our legal system is wonderful. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:32:10 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What exactly does that term mean? I remember that term used in Boondock Saints... and never figured out what it means. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like he just turned state's evidence. They probably had enough to bury him and gave up some bigger fish in return for protective incarceration. Gen-pop would be a living hell for him. The Aryans and the Crips would be high-fiving each other as they tortured him. I'm sure Subway will breath a sigh of relief that this doesn't go to (a very public) trial. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:33:55 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is going to spill the beans in order to avoid being gutted like a fish. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sounds like he just turned state's evidence. They probably had enough to bury him and gave up some bigger fish in return for protective incarceration. Gen-pop would be a living hell for him. The Aryans and the Crips would be high-fiving each other as they tortured him. I'm sure Subway will breath a sigh of relief that this doesn't go to (a very public) trial. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:34:20 PM EST
[#42]
Even though Subway has no fault in this.......it seems tacky to go there to eat right now.
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:36:15 PM EST
[#43]
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So how much time is he looking at ? 15 years ??? 5-12 |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:42:19 PM EST
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5-12 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So how much time is he looking at ? 15 years ??? 5-12 Apparently that's also what he was looking at to end up in this situation in the first place. |
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Posted: 8/19/2015 11:44:14 PM EST
[#45]
I kept expecting Will Hayden to off himself. I expect Fogle will kill himself but we'll see. I believe that the wife knew more than what she let on. Maybe not the kiddie porn stuff but if he had a huge porn collection I'm sure she was aware of it
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Posted: 8/20/2015 1:43:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even though Subway has no fault in this.......it seems tacky to go there to eat right now. And honestly, their quality leaves a bit to be desired. It often does smell of rotting vegetables. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 2:32:01 AM EST
[#47]
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Even though Subway has no fault in this.......it seems tacky to go there to eat right now. It's always been tacky to eat there. Had it once, never been back. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 8:46:39 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look up the Mann Act. It's a federal crime to cross state lines in order to have sex with an underage minor, and I believe since it's a federal law it doesn't matter the age of consent in the state the act took place in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Don't have time to read all the comments, but did want to point something out. Not defending him, but the only person that the article says he had sex with was the 17 year old, in New York City. The age of consent in New York is 17. He did not break the law. It's probably not right, but other than paying for the sex, the age is not a legal issue. That he was trying to find someone younger is very bad, but it didn't say if he actually had sex with anyone under age. I have friends that are escorts (won't post pics, don't ask) and they do get clients that want younger girls. It's not an uncommon request. The answer is always "no". Totally skeeves an escort out when you ask that since most of them were sexually abused as young girls. One of my friends had a client, a local college professor that I knew (went to church with him and his family), that would have her dress up as a young school girl and come to his office at the college so he could play out a teacher-schoolgirl fantasy. He didn't actually want a young girl, just someone to pretend who could look the part. My friend still couldn't stomach it and she stopped seeing him. I think a Lolita fantasy is somewhat common among older men for some reason. It would not surprise me that even though he was asking, Fogler couldn't find anyone that would help him out. Now, the child porn thing? Yeah, he's probably caught dead to rights. Actual sex with someone under age? That seems more gray. What part of pleading guilty do you not understand? I don't understand the muddled bullshit reporting about this issue, I suppose. They say he had sex with a minor, a 17 year old, as if that's a crime. When it wasn't a crime in that state at all. Hell, having sex with a 16 year old is legal in 30 states. If he plead guilty to having sex with someone properly below the age of consent, that's fine. But what has been reported does not meet that requirement. The Mann Act makes it illegal to transport the under age person across state lines to have sex with them. Or, to take an adult prostitute across state lines to have sex with them. Travelling to where they are to have sex with them is not a violation of the Mann Act. The article states that he travelled from Indiana to New York to have sex with the 17 year old. The article does not state whether she lived in New York or he transported her there with them. One is a violation, one is not. |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:02:17 AM EST
[#49]
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This very well could lead to the possibility of Subway going under. Subway no longer is the "Only game in town" for "healthier fast food". And honestly, their quality leaves a bit to be desired. It often does smell of rotting vegetables. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even though Subway has no fault in this.......it seems tacky to go there to eat right now. And honestly, their quality leaves a bit to be desired. It often does smell of rotting vegetables. I ate there last night. Anyone that would boycott them over what some guy they used for marketing did is a tard Also, "rotting vegetables"? Is your subway in the ghetto or something? |
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Posted: 8/20/2015 9:20:02 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
This very well could lead to the possibility of Subway going under. Subway no longer is the "Only game in town" for "healthier fast food". And honestly, their quality leaves a bit to be desired. It often does smell of rotting vegetables. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even though Subway has no fault in this.......it seems tacky to go there to eat right now. And honestly, their quality leaves a bit to be desired. It often does smell of rotting vegetables. I think Subway is one of the nastiest national fast food chains. I could win free Subway for life and I'd still never eat there. However, there is not a chance in hell this is going to cause them to go under. |
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