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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:29:37 PM EDT
 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12978883/Its-faithfulness-Pastor-Joel-Osteen-breaks-tears-tells-congregation-100million-loan-took-convert-NBA-stadium-Texas-megachurch-paid-just-19-years.html Megachurch pastor Joel Osteen has paid off a $100 million loan for renovations at his church in just 19 years with donations thanks to his congregation's 'faithfulness'. Osteen burst into tears as he ripped up the loan agreement on Sunday during a service at the 17,000 seat NBA stadium turned church in Houston, Texas.  |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:30:19 PM EDT
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for the weak minded
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:32:57 PM EDT
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His wife has a strange look in her eyes.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:32:59 PM EDT
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Fucking used car salesman
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:33:45 PM EDT
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Are donations to churches tax write offs?
Ive always been curious as I live in a area ripe with large churches. Always wondered how exactly they made ends meet on donations |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:34:28 PM EDT
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I used to watch Joel Osteen. I never saw him talk about sin, repentance, or the need to have Jesus remove the death sentence that sin brings. I get it that his marketing strategy (yes, I meant to say that) is to preach to people who are already believers, but I think getting sinners to repent was the main focus of the book of Acts. We need for the Christian church to get back to that, and Joel Osteen sure ain't helpin' any.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:34:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His wife has a strange look in her eyes. Those are $$$ signs. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:35:03 PM EDT
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Good for him.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are donations to churches tax write offs? Ive always been curious as I live in a area ripe with large churches. Always wondered how exactly they made ends meet on donations Yes |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:35:30 PM EDT
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Prosperity preachers gonna prosper.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:37:16 PM EDT
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Jesus wants me to have this money.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:38:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are donations to churches tax write offs? Ive always been curious as I live in a area ripe with large churches. Always wondered how exactly they made ends meet on donations yep. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:38:17 PM EDT
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A fool and their money and all that.
Megachurches are cancer. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to watch Joel Osteen. I never saw him talk about sin, repentance, or the need to have Jesus remove the death sentence that sin brings. I get it that his marketing strategy (yes, I meant to say that) is to preach to people who are already believers, but I think getting sinners to repent was the main focus of the book of Acts. We need for the Christian church to get back to that, and Joel Osteen sure ain't helpin' any. He is a slimy snake oil salesman |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His wife has a strange look in her eyes. Demon spawn. I’ve seen it before. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:39:23 PM EDT
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If he had one service every sunday that would be slightly over $101k a week (obviously that is extremely reductive)
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:39:51 PM EDT
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He should run for governor of CA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:40:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A fool and their money and all that. Megachurches are cancer. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His wife has a strange look in her eyes. It's called greed and evil. I consider his followers some of the dumbest people on the planet. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:40:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking used car salesman |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:40:59 PM EDT
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Goddamn, Christians have absolutely no shame at all...
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:41:16 PM EDT
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I should start a megachurch
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:41:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are donations to churches tax write offs? Ive always been curious as I live in an area ripe with large churches. Always wondered how exactly they made ends meet on donations Yes That 10% adds up |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:41:28 PM EDT
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Charlatan
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:41:49 PM EDT
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God, that dude is such a fucking scumbag.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to watch Joel Osteen. I never saw him talk about sin, repentance, or the need to have Jesus remove the death sentence that sin brings. I get it that his marketing strategy (yes, I meant to say that) is to preach to people who are already believers, but I think getting sinners to repent was the main focus of the book of Acts. We need for the Christian church to get back to that, and Joel Osteen sure ain't helpin' any. He is a con man. They were doing repairs in his church and opened up a wall. There was a bag of cash with over 100K in it and passports. His sermons are complete garbage and no substance. Does he even read out of the Bible? |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:42:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking used car salesman |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he had one service every sunday that would be slightly over $101k a week (obviously that is extremely reductive) That’s $5/person Or like $25/family Easy peasy bro |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:42:37 PM EDT
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Rich man poking camels with needles and all that.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Goddamn, Christians have absolutely no shame at all... Hey, don’t lump us all in. He’s not a Christian. He’s a “Christian” in name only. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:42:57 PM EDT
[#30]
What a shyster
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:43:33 PM EDT
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Big churches get big tithes. What a grifter.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:43:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are donations to churches tax write offs? Ive always been curious as I live in a area ripe with large churches. Always wondered how exactly they made ends meet on donations Yes Hold on. Taxpayers can choose to itemize their deductions, which is required when taking a charitable contribution deduction, or take the standard deduction when filing tax returns. For 2023 the standard deduction is $27,700 for married couples. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/041315/tips-charitable-contributions-limits-and-taxes.asp IIRC, a couple would have to have $27,700 in deductions before a dime of charitable contributions are deducted. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:43:36 PM EDT
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Son of Jim Baker
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:43:40 PM EDT
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How much money is hidden in the walls of that mega church?
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prosperity preachers gonna prosper. Most of us want our spiritual leaders telling us pleasant things..tickle the ears if you will....and we're willing to pay for it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:45:56 PM EDT
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how the fuck does he do this?
The grift / scam must work as he's got all this money and all these followers. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:46:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A fool and their money and all that. Megachurches are cancer. Lakewood isn't a church. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:46:27 PM EDT
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I know people, good obedient, Godly, Christ-centered people, who are absolutely convinced that Joel is a great and Godly man.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:47:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know people, good obedient, Godly, Christ-centered people, who are absolutely convinced that Joel is a great and Godly man. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:47:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know people, good obedient, Godly, Christ-centered people, who are absolutely convinced that Joel is a great and Godly man. He has a reputation for getting people back into church that haven't attended in twenty years. But getting back to what I posted earlier he doesn't talk like any genuine preacher presenting the real Gospel. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:47:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a slimy snake oil salesman I think you owe an apology to all snake oil salesmen. 
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:48:35 PM EDT
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Sola Fide (except for tithing)
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hold on. Taxpayers can choose to itemize their deductions, which is required when taking a charitable contribution deduction, or take the standard deduction when filing tax returns. For 2023 the standard deduction is $27,700 for married couples. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/041315/tips-charitable-contributions-limits-and-taxes.asp IIRC, a couple would have to have $27,700 in deductions before a dime of charitable contributions are deducted. yes, when added on top of their other itemized deductions like state/local tax (up to $10k), mortgage interest, etc. the standard deduction for sure is greater than it was pre-trump, but the people funding these churches likely still itemize. he aint getting rich off $10 per week donating grannies |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:48:48 PM EDT
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That one weirdo in Appalachia that drinks non stop and dances with snakes has more faith in his left pinky finger nail than this clown and his gaggle.
Church is for studying the bible not entertainment. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:49:10 PM EDT
[#46]
 Suicidal Tendencies Send Me Your Money |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:49:24 PM EDT
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Osteen is a modern-day scammer.
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:49:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: how the fuck does he do this? The grift / scam must work as he's got all this money and all these followers. His thing is just telling people what they want to hear instead of actually doing a sermon on the word of God. He is a sharp dressed good looking guy and his wife is attractive. It is all in the presentation. Plus, it is Texas, and people from Texas, are, well, you know. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 4:50:09 PM EDT
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I haven't participated in his program in a couple years, but use to find him refreshing and nothing will change that.
Glad they paid off the church. |
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