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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:39:52 AM EST
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:42:23 AM EST
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Sometime this weekend...it shall be watched.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:48:19 AM EST
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I don't think I'm going to see it. My anger tank is already full.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:56:24 AM EST
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What REALLY frustrates me about this whole deal.....is why the guy who gave the Stand down order has not been named.....brought up to the hill to answer questions.....such as....WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO STAND DOWN? I don't see anyone following this up the chain. If they did....I sure as hell haven't seen anything. Heads should have rolled.......instead we get crickets. It quite literally could have been a relatively low to mid-level State Department staffer (onsite) who had oversight over the (diplomatic) mission. He says no, the answer is no unless, as these guys eventually did, you decide to ignore the boss' order and go any way...knowing full well that there will be hell to pay (up to and including being turned over to the Libyans for criminal prosecution/trial) if you're wrong about what is happening or right, but do something wrong (i.e. collateral damage, injure/kill a civilian [which anyone killed will be regardless of what they were doing], etc.) in the process. As you might imagine, the State Department is not staffed with ex-mil guys (even the State Department "security" personnel rarely have any military experience) but rather typically quite liberal social do-gooders who can't begin to appreciate the danger inherent in their operating environment ("We're here to help 'them', they won't harm us."). The Catch 22: they react quickly enough to prevent an incident and they're cowboys. Wait until the situation is known and/or the initiative is lost and they're at fault for taking too long. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:00:36 AM EST
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I hate to say it but all the bad parts of Beghazi are still happening on a daily basis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You will walk out sad then PISSED. F@$K politicians and their mealy mouth weak ass, career focused, power and politics . Yeah they wanted to fundamentally change America. Not on my watch. Those that want to be in power and put party politics first, they don't belong on these shores. I hate to say it but all the bad parts of Beghazi are still happening on a daily basis. Sadly, absolutely. To admit anything was done incorrectly would be an indictment of the administration...so the charade continues. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:27:32 AM EST
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I read the book while on a cruise. Definitely, was not a relaxing book to read on a cruise. If I thought that the genetic passengers could be properly motivated by my speech and the ship had the range to make it to Benghazi the mutiny and following results would have been epic. However, the killing of Libyans would have had be stopped for and hour at 1400 everyday (bingo) and ended by 1700 (early dinner). Not a book or a movie (which if it follows the book) you want to come out happy from. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You will walk out sad then PISSED. F@$K politicians and their mealy mouth weak ass, career focused, power and politics . Yeah they wanted to fundamentally change America. Not on my watch. Those that want to be in power and put party politics first, they don't belong on these shores. Problem is...I'm pissed going into the theater. My hair will probably be on fire when I leave.  I read the book while on a cruise. Definitely, was not a relaxing book to read on a cruise. If I thought that the genetic passengers could be properly motivated by my speech and the ship had the range to make it to Benghazi the mutiny and following results would have been epic. However, the killing of Libyans would have had be stopped for and hour at 1400 everyday (bingo) and ended by 1700 (early dinner). Not a book or a movie (which if it follows the book) you want to come out happy from. Which book is it? I get three or four that show up when I search it. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:39:22 AM EST
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Great movie. There are a few jabs at the administration but nothing overtly political.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:41:27 AM EST
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In before the posts about how unrealistic it was
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Posted: 1/15/2016 1:45:06 AM EST
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In before the posts about how unrealistic it was It was pretty realistic. Read the book. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 2:06:58 AM EST
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. Know how I know you haven't met many real life 'operators'? 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 2:17:58 AM EST
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In before the posts about how unrealistic it was The trailers look pretty good; I'm hopeful. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 2:28:35 AM EST
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. I know right? Look at this pussy. I think he did my taxes last year. 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 2:58:51 AM EST
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Michael Bay has a hard on for Navy SEALs/ Special Forces. My former boss would get invited to MBay"s mansion in Miami for movie premieres on a regular basis.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 4:05:17 AM EST
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. Know how I know you haven't met many real life 'operators'? I think people are just used to the media portraying mil dudes as completely jacked animals with dirty hair and grizzly beards, when in reality that's not the case. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 4:41:33 AM EST
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I read the book when it first came out and reread in the past two weeks with the movie coming out. The book is absolutely worth the read.
Oz, Tanto, and Tig did an interview with Brett Baier a few nights ago, or maybe a week ago now, laying everything out with maps and all. It was pretty crazy to see the three of them talk about what went down with the actual pictures of the place. They had warned the CIA and the ambassador multiple times about the horrible security. They don't come out even in the interview and make a political statement, but they make it perfectly clear they were told to stand down. I'm looking forward to seeing the movie tonight, I'm glad it's getting good reviews so far. Too bad the sheeple with think of it as jus another action movie. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 4:49:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got back. Good movie with crazy fire fights. Why did the delta guys look so redneck? One even had a mullet. I got the feeling that someone was trying to make delta look bad cool. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 9:39:24 AM EST
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It quite literally could have been a relatively low to mid-level State Department staffer (onsite) who had oversight over the (diplomatic) mission. He says no, the answer is no unless, as these guys eventually did, you decide to ignore the boss' order and go any way...knowing full well that there will be hell to pay (up to and including being turned over to the Libyans for criminal prosecution/trial) if you're wrong about what is happening or right, but do something wrong (i.e. collateral damage, injure/kill a civilian [which anyone killed will be regardless of what they were doing], etc.) in the process. As you might imagine, the State Department is not staffed with ex-mil guys (even the State Department "security" personnel rarely have any military experience) but rather typically quite liberal social do-gooders who can't begin to appreciate the danger inherent in their operating environment ("We're here to help 'them', they won't harm us."). The Catch 22: they react quickly enough to prevent an incident and they're cowboys. Wait until the situation is known and/or the initiative is lost and they're at fault for taking too long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What REALLY frustrates me about this whole deal.....is why the guy who gave the Stand down order has not been named.....brought up to the hill to answer questions.....such as....WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO STAND DOWN? I don't see anyone following this up the chain. If they did....I sure as hell haven't seen anything. Heads should have rolled.......instead we get crickets. It quite literally could have been a relatively low to mid-level State Department staffer (onsite) who had oversight over the (diplomatic) mission. He says no, the answer is no unless, as these guys eventually did, you decide to ignore the boss' order and go any way...knowing full well that there will be hell to pay (up to and including being turned over to the Libyans for criminal prosecution/trial) if you're wrong about what is happening or right, but do something wrong (i.e. collateral damage, injure/kill a civilian [which anyone killed will be regardless of what they were doing], etc.) in the process. As you might imagine, the State Department is not staffed with ex-mil guys (even the State Department "security" personnel rarely have any military experience) but rather typically quite liberal social do-gooders who can't begin to appreciate the danger inherent in their operating environment ("We're here to help 'them', they won't harm us."). The Catch 22: they react quickly enough to prevent an incident and they're cowboys. Wait until the situation is known and/or the initiative is lost and they're at fault for taking too long. That MAY be, but we still don't know yet, and I don't see anyone working towards the these answers. That's why this is so maddening for me. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 9:52:15 AM EST
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That MAY be, but we still don't know yet, and I don't see anyone working towards the these answers. That's why this is so maddening for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What REALLY frustrates me about this whole deal.....is why the guy who gave the Stand down order has not been named.....brought up to the hill to answer questions.....such as....WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO STAND DOWN? I don't see anyone following this up the chain. If they did....I sure as hell haven't seen anything. Heads should have rolled.......instead we get crickets. It quite literally could have been a relatively low to mid-level State Department staffer (onsite) who had oversight over the (diplomatic) mission. He says no, the answer is no unless, as these guys eventually did, you decide to ignore the boss' order and go any way...knowing full well that there will be hell to pay (up to and including being turned over to the Libyans for criminal prosecution/trial) if you're wrong about what is happening or right, but do something wrong (i.e. collateral damage, injure/kill a civilian [which anyone killed will be regardless of what they were doing], etc.) in the process. As you might imagine, the State Department is not staffed with ex-mil guys (even the State Department "security" personnel rarely have any military experience) but rather typically quite liberal social do-gooders who can't begin to appreciate the danger inherent in their operating environment ("We're here to help 'them', they won't harm us."). The Catch 22: they react quickly enough to prevent an incident and they're cowboys. Wait until the situation is known and/or the initiative is lost and they're at fault for taking too long. That MAY be, but we still don't know yet, and I don't see anyone working towards the these answers. That's why this is so maddening for me. People like Trey Gowdy are trying to find and finding answers...but as stated, the admin doesn't want the truth to be known. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 9:52:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know right? Look at this pussy. I think he did my taxes last year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. I know right? Look at this pussy. I think he did my taxes last year. "The Accountant." I was thinking of exactly this pic as soon as that post was read. Thanks for finding and posting this pic. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:04:28 AM EST
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HH6 and I are going tomorrow to watch it.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:04:59 AM EST
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SPOILER ALERT:
Hillary should be in prison. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:05:52 AM EST
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Highly recommended - 4.5 stars - Michael Bay did one heck of a job directing the flick, true to the book, fuck politicians - that is all. Will my wife cry? |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:13:37 AM EST
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Just bought my tickets to see it tonight. i'm sure I'm going to be pissed when i leave.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:20:19 AM EST
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Saw the movie last night. Great movie, very quiet in the theater afterward.
There is no way it won't really make you angry. Go see it,take your family tell your friends. If we don't support this kind of movie they won't make them. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:23:05 AM EST
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I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. I may be misunderstood but I thought the first 10m of flight trajectory was the initial boost to get it out of the tube. And then the motor or whatever it's called kicks in after 10m. I'm probably wrong but I could've sworn I read that in a thread that was started to show how the RPG works. Not gonna lie I have zero real life experience, like I know you do 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:23:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No political statement, however it easy to connect the dots and see that the White House called the shots and decided not to send relief. The movie depicted all assets primed an ready to go (fighters, Alpha Charlies, SPOD, etc) and crickets coming out of Washington. "The POTUS has been briefed - stand down." |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:25:53 AM EST
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Got tix for tomorrow night.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:26:52 AM EST
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Those who have seen it, how do the action scenes stack up to Blackhawk Down? |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:29:14 AM EST
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I worked with a guy many years ago who was Special Forces, and would have never guessed what he did until someone else told me...........he was reserved and didn't talk alot
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. John Krasinski fucking nailed the part. There are plenty of "elite operators" who look and act nothing like the stereotype. i didn't believe that till i met an actual SEAL...not what i expected |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:31:52 AM EST
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Breitbart Review:
Director Michael Bay’s riveting, heartbreaking, and infuriating “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” opens with five simple words: “This Is a True Story.” What it should have read was, “This Is a True Story The Media Has Covered Up For Years.” God damn these people to Hell. More: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/14/13-hours-review-riveting-indictment-of-obama-hillary-and-the-dc-media/ |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:34:45 AM EST
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Breitbart Review: Director Michael Bay’s riveting, heartbreaking, and infuriating “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” opens with five simple words: “This Is a True Story.” What it should have read was, “This Is a True Story The Media Has Covered Up For Years.” God damn these people to Hell. More: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/14/13-hours-review-riveting-indictment-of-obama-hillary-and-the-dc-media/ This.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:40:23 AM EST
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. How about the burly warehouse guy from the office being an operator? I'm kinda glad they picked jim for this role, stereotypes of what mil bad asses look like are ridiculous. Dan Daly was one of the baddest mfers that ever lived, and he was like 5'5 / 130. You have to have a certain level of physical fitness, but otherwise it's all in the heart / mind. There are lanky bad asses, short squatty bad asses and everything in between. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:44:07 AM EST
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I may be misunderstood but I thought the first 10m of flight trajectory was the initial boost to get it out of the tube. And then the motor or whatever it's called kicks in after 10m. I'm probably wrong but I could've sworn I read that in a thread that was started to show how the RPG works. Not gonna lie I have zero real life experience, like I know you do Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. I may be misunderstood but I thought the first 10m of flight trajectory was the initial boost to get it out of the tube. And then the motor or whatever it's called kicks in after 10m. I'm probably wrong but I could've sworn I read that in a thread that was started to show how the RPG works. Not gonna lie I have zero real life experience, like I know you do I've never shot one, but my understanding is that the rpg isn't powered by a rocket motor while in flight outside the tube. The propellant burns super fast and "boom" it flies out of the tube like a big bullet. There are shoulder fired missiles that work in the way you describe, however. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 10:50:35 AM EST
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I've never shot one, but my understanding is that the rpg isn't powered by a rocket motor while in flight outside the tube. The propellant burns super fast and "boom" it flies out of the tube like a big bullet. There are shoulder fired missiles that work in the way you describe, however. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. I may be misunderstood but I thought the first 10m of flight trajectory was the initial boost to get it out of the tube. And then the motor or whatever it's called kicks in after 10m. I'm probably wrong but I could've sworn I read that in a thread that was started to show how the RPG works. Not gonna lie I have zero real life experience, like I know you do I've never shot one, but my understanding is that the rpg isn't powered by a rocket motor while in flight outside the tube. The propellant burns super fast and "boom" it flies out of the tube like a big bullet. There are shoulder fired missiles that work in the way you describe, however. 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:01:29 AM EST
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I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. With the PG-7 the expelling charge gets it to that 10m point then the rocket motor ignites. It ignites at 10m so it doesnt burn the firer. The screw on tube in the rear with the fins is the expelling charge, the tube connected to the warhead has the actual motor that fires in flight. You can see the venturi from it on the sides. The rear portion is the expelling charge/booster (III), this expels the rocket to a safe distance, where the middle portion ignites in flight (II), expelling gasses through the venturi (10) to propel it foward. The fins located in part III open and provide spin stabilization. Due to it being a HEAT warhead, most RPG's are fired linear with no arc, but there are others such as the bounding fragmentation warhead of the Type 69 that have to be fired at an arc to function properly. Often the enemy just doesnt know any better and just lobs them to get over walls or structures. I watched one fired off a rooftop about a month ago through NVGs and all i could see was the flash and sparks from the expelling charge, the rocket moves pretty damn fast. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:13:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't seen it yet but t I have heard that HRCs name is never mentioned. I plan on loudly shouting FUCK CLINTON!!! at the end. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:23:50 AM EST
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Finished the book this morning.
Nothing else is CoC compliant. FBHO FHRCI be finished tonight. 60ish pages left I think.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:23:54 AM EST
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John Krasinski fucking nailed the part. There are plenty of "elite operators" who look and act nothing like the stereotype. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. John Krasinski fucking nailed the part. There are plenty of "elite operators" who look and act nothing like the stereotype. Agreed! |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:33:40 AM EST
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Finished the book this morning.
Nothing else is CoC compliant. FBHO FHRCI be finished tonight. 60ish pages left I think. No spoilers but that's the worst of it, the last 60 pages.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:37:16 AM EST
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Those who have seen it, how do the action scenes stack up to Blackhawk Down? Equal or better, especially the Zombieland sequences. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:37:53 AM EST
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It was a very good movie. The only critique I have is that the RPG's were very...arc-y. I thought that they tend to fly flatter. Definitely go and see this movie. You will leave pissed. I haven't seen the movie but RPG trajectory depends on how it's employed: direct fire, point target at close range, pretty flat for the size/speed of the projectile. Indirect fire, area target at longer ranges (i.e. lobbing 'em in there) pretty good arc. There was also probably big smoke trails; they really don't smoke considering they coast (there is no motor burning) for all but the first ~10m of flight to the target. I may be misunderstood but I thought the first 10m of flight trajectory was the initial boost to get it out of the tube. And then the motor or whatever it's called kicks in after 10m. I'm probably wrong but I could've sworn I read that in a thread that was started to show how the RPG works. Not gonna lie I have zero real life experience, like I know you do I've never shot one, but my understanding is that the rpg isn't powered by a rocket motor while in flight outside the tube. The propellant burns super fast and "boom" it flies out of the tube like a big bullet. There are shoulder fired missiles that work in the way you describe, however.  https://youtu.be/P439jWJTQ-0
I stand corrected, sweet video! The speed of the projectile is what Hollywood tends to mess up. In red dawn they fly slower than a bottle rocket, lol! |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:39:16 AM EST
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I stand corrected, sweet video! The speed of the projectile is what Hollywood tends to mess up. In red dawn they fly slower than a bottle rocket, lol! I love how in Red Dawn they actually "droop" on the fishing line that's guiding them in. 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 11:42:33 AM EST
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Which book is it? I get three or four that show up when I search it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You will walk out sad then PISSED. F@$K politicians and their mealy mouth weak ass, career focused, power and politics . Yeah they wanted to fundamentally change America. Not on my watch. Those that want to be in power and put party politics first, they don't belong on these shores. Problem is...I'm pissed going into the theater. My hair will probably be on fire when I leave. I read the book while on a cruise. Definitely, was not a relaxing book to read on a cruise. If I thought that the genetic passengers could be properly motivated by my speech and the ship had the range to make it to Benghazi the mutiny and following results would have been epic. However, the killing of Libyans would have had be stopped for and hour at 1400 everyday (bingo) and ended by 1700 (early dinner). Not a book or a movie (which if it follows the book) you want to come out happy from. Which book is it? I get three or four that show up when I search it. 
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:20:02 PM EST
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Probably gotta' be this one:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/145558228X/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=31865JM13ON6T&coliid=I244U79F9MKUJH |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:27:32 PM EST
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Got the ebook for free when I ordered tickets yesterday for the premier on Fandango.
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:44:00 PM EST
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IIRC from the book: We are never told who the CIA station chief was, and we are never told who he was talking to on the phone when the infamous "stand down" order was given. It could have been State, or it could have been CIA. I got the impression it was more likely CIA since the operators and station chief were CIA assets, and they didn't want to blow the CIA's cover. Then again I don't know shit about how this works, so it's certainly possible that my assumption is wrong. Either way State's security situation was beyond pathetic, and HRC bears direct responsibility for the lack of adequate security for the ambassador. I remember reading one of Col. Jeff Cooper's books in a part he recounts doing spook work in some 3rd world shithole. He related that the No. 1 rule of security was to NEVER rely on local mercs in the turd world. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:47:05 PM EST
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Gun mag said they purposely changed the weapons used in the movie. No SIGS and different rifles, oh and no EOTECHS
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:49:40 PM EST
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I plan on loudly shouting FUCK CLINTON!!! at the end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I haven't seen it yet but t I have heard that HRCs name is never mentioned. I plan on loudly shouting FUCK CLINTON!!! at the end. LOL....THAT IS AWESOME!!! Please video that!! |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:49:48 PM EST
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Know how I know you haven't met many real life 'operators'? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just cant get over the tall skinny guy from the office being an elite operator.. Know how I know you haven't met many real life 'operators'? The first SEAL that I met back in in 2003 was around 5'5 and sort of skinny weat jeans and a t-shirt in Iraq. |
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Posted: 1/15/2016 12:56:47 PM EST
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Gun mag said they purposely changed the weapons used in the movie. No SIGS and different rifles, oh and no EOTECHS high point carbines |
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