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Posted: 10/27/2021 11:24:17 AM EST
Had another major surgery last Tuesday.  Spent 8 days in hospital and just got home yesterday. Was given Ketamine after surgery. Jesus. It's going to take me a week just to get the words to describe it.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:24:59 AM EST
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I make ketamine nasal sprays at work. You should see the people that use it.....
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:24:59 AM EST
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Tag
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:25:20 AM EST
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Safe thread
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:26:55 AM EST
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I remember fairies, mushrooms and stuff. was all in high def.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:27:30 AM EST
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Isn't that a horse tranquilizer?
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:28:08 AM EST
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I’ve seen a guy lick the inside of a non rebreather like a dog trying to get peanut butter out of a glass bowl after being put in the k hole.  It was amazing.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:28:46 AM EST
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Will be interesting to see what surprise deliveries turn up in the next few days

Feel better soon !
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:29:05 AM EST
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In the same way that ivermectin is horse paste.  It is commonly used for sedation and pain management in humans.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:29:14 AM EST
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From my 1 experience, they must be total zombie cases.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:29:46 AM EST
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Ambien walrus is sad now?
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:30:22 AM EST
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I was going to recommend this book Ketamine: Dreams and Realities by Karl Jansen but maybe the Kindle version would be better at the moment.  I should list my copy for $750.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:31:05 AM EST
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Is it better than China meow meow, Kathmandu Catchem, monkey white, Captain Cody Cody or Mexican pancake syrup?
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:32:13 AM EST
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I'm assuming that's a joke but yes, it's used in veterinary medicine- it was commonly used in Vietnam as well.

ETA- We used to use a mix of ketamine, rompun and acepromazine on dogs.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:36:17 AM EST
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Had it twice. Both times in the hospital.
I had no concept of...anything. Most surreal stuff I've ever experienced. Didn't know if I was alive or dead. Everything was yellow or orange and a square, circle or triangle.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:38:23 AM EST
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You were raped and not by your avatar.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:38:57 AM EST
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I thought that was a purely recreational drug?
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:41:07 AM EST
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I'm assuming that's a joke but yes, it's used in veterinary medicine- it was commonly used in Vietnam as well.

ETA- We used to use a mix of ketamine, rompun and acepromazine on dogs.
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I'm assuming that's a joke but yes, it's used in veterinary medicine- it was commonly used in Vietnam as well.

ETA- We used to use a mix of ketamine, rompun and acepromazine on dogs.


Partial joke, partial irony.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:42:46 AM EST
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I support you.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:44:09 AM EST
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I concur.  During day surgery earlier this year, was asked what sedative/pain med I’d like, anesthesiologist recommended ketamine, so that’s what I got.  Before starting the procedure, Dr asked me what music I liked, said classic rock, she said “all right!”  Was in and out of conscious, in a dreamlike state, found the meaning of life, sang along with songs, had the docs chucking.  Don’t remember all the details, but it was a a great experience.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:45:40 AM EST
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What is seen in the K-Hole cannot be unseen.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:46:06 AM EST
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My wife has chronic migraines.

Monthly ketamine infusions are part of her treatment.

She does get sleepy and goofy, but not like some others here have described.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:52:03 AM EST
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how addictive is that shit?
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:53:08 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/27/2021 11:53:18 AM EST
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No, it's pretty common in modern medicine and it's also being studied and used in the treatment of migraines (as mentioned), depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. with overall very good results (sometimes in higher doses, often in subclinical doses).  See also LSD, psilocybin and even MDMA (ecstasy) which are also being studied in degenerative neurological diseases.  

Stupid autocorrect.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:03:05 PM EST
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I had it during one of my many surgeries and talk about having a bad reaction. If you have a semi or full on Obsessive-compulsive disorder or just a control freak like many engineers, it can be a bad trip. It seemed the more I tried to control stuff the more out of control everything got. Even after i woke up I was seeing stuff like nurses pulling bananas our of the glove dispenser on the wall.

I had it a few times later in other surgeries and did not experience any of the bad reaction so not sure why I did the first time.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:07:55 PM EST
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We use it in the ED all the time. Works great for procedural sedation in kids, we usually avoid it in older patients because they get nutty. At low doses, we use it for pain. Mid doses are dissociative, and high doses are sedative. In trying to get away from opioids, it’s been very helpful.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:12:42 PM EST
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Hit the K-hole once at a Dieselboy show.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:14:25 PM EST
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I'd say it depends on what type of personality you have.  It's primarily a dissociative experience that can supposedly approach a euphoric one just before the proverbial "k hole" (which is generally not a pleasant experience from what I've read and heard from patients).  In higher dosses it's a "trip", but not the same as a true psychedelic trip.  In theory, it can be psychologically addictive since it messes with your dopamine system (like most recreationally abused drugs) but not really physically (like say alcohol), at least in short term usage, so someone with an addictive type personality or someone looking for some form of "enlightenment" or spirituality may be more drawn to it. Long term usage can lead to bladder problems including the inability to urinate.  

It's been a while since I read that book I listed and more research has been done on it since then so things may have changed some.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:14:49 PM EST
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We use it in the ED all the time. Works great for procedural sedation in kids, we usually avoid it in older patients because they get nutty. At low doses, we use it for pain. Mid doses are dissociative, and high doses are sedative. In trying to get away from opioids, it’s been very helpful.
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We use it in the ED all the time. Works great for procedural sedation in kids, we usually avoid it in older patients because they get nutty. At low doses, we use it for pain. Mid doses are dissociative, and high doses are sedative. In trying to get away from opioids, it’s been very helpful.


Which of course is why Colorado passed a law practically making it illegal for use by EMS...
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:14:59 PM EST
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One of our division chiefs got ketamine from a doctor for a procedure related to a heart rhythm.  

YOU DONT WANT TO SEE A BAD KETAMINE TRIP!!
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:17:20 PM EST
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We use it in the ED all the time. Works great for procedural sedation in kids, we usually avoid it in older patients because they get nutty. At low doses, we use it for pain. Mid doses are dissociative, and high doses are sedative. In trying to get away from opioids, it’s been very helpful.
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how addictive is it?

Asked and answered.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:21:39 PM EST
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 Did the fairies have big boobs ? asking for research purposes.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:38:33 PM EST
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I had the rest of my wisdom teeth pulled two years ago, I dunno what the fuck he gave, but I was having a trip in the chair waiting for him to do the procedure. He gave me a second dose to do the actual procedure and I was out, but before he started, I was sitting there having orange psychedelic visions from the 1960's and I wasn't even alive back then.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:40:51 PM EST
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Intense stuff
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If you are like me. Zero , I boarded the mother ship
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:47:46 PM EST
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An anesthesiologist used some on me during a surgery to remove a growth from my side.  I didn't like it at all, it made me feel very disoriented, dizzy, and the dizziness persisted after I was released from the hospital.  I almost fell a couple of times at home after the surgery because of the lingering effects of the ketamine.

The next time a doctor asked me about it I told them I had a bad reaction to it and don't fancy the possibility of falling after discharge because of it.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 12:57:50 PM EST
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If the fairy looked like this I'm in.  

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Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:17:43 PM EST
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My better half calls it "Surprise Naptime." Jokes aside, it's one of her favorite tools in her toolbox.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:19:50 PM EST
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Our vets use a ket and torb cocktail for gelding, dental extractions and other involved but not full surgical procedures. It's good enough to apparently make those procedures enjoyably so it must be pretty good.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:20:00 PM EST
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Soooo tagging this thread.
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We use it all the time for procedural sedation

Kids do surprisingly well on it. Adults can have horrible trips if you slam it fast. It doesn’t knock junkies out, they freak the fuck out for a couple hours.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:20:12 PM EST
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Man I never get anything fun

I thought for sure I was going to be flying with Jesus when they gave me some fentanyl last time around

I didnt feel shit except a whole bunch of pain in my broken ass leg and a tiny bit of head fog

Suppose I should be thankful that opioids dont really 'kick' for me.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:23:19 PM EST
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A squadron mate of mine was in a helo accident and burnt.  He said they gave him something that made everyone turn into tron the movie.  WTF was that?  Navy docs gave it to him.
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:25:18 PM EST
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Sounds like fun to me!
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No, it's pretty common in modern medicine and it's also being studied and used in the treatment of migraines (as mentioned), depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. with overall very good results (sometimes in higher doses, often in subclinical doses).  See also LSD, psilocybin and even MDMA (ecstasy) which are also being studied in degenerative neurological diseases.  

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No, it's pretty common in modern medicine and it's also being studied and used in the treatment of migraines (as mentioned), depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. with overall very good results (sometimes in higher doses, often in subclinical doses).  See also LSD, psilocybin and even MDMA (ecstasy) which are also being studied in degenerative neurological diseases.  

Stupid autocorrect.


I believe that it's also used as an anesthetic in primitive conditions. I think I've heard that Special forces medics carry and use it.

From what little I know about it, it's a very interesting drug. Seems to pack a wallop.
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My uncle worked in the quaalude plant back in the day.
Broken tablets were not accounted for, employees were taking them out to their cars all day long in trash bags without a care in the world. Just sayin'.

Kharn
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:29:35 PM EST
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No, it's pretty common in modern medicine and it's also being studied and used in the treatment of migraines (as mentioned), depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. with overall very good results (sometimes in higher doses, often in subclinical doses).  See also LSD, psilocybin and even MDMA (ecstasy) which are also being studied in degenerative neurological diseases.  

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Stupid autocorrect.


Yes it is used in treatment of end-stage depression.

LC
Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:32:19 PM EST
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I believe that it's also used as an anesthetic in primitive conditions. I think I've heard that Special forces medics carry and use it.

From what little I know about it, it's a very interesting drug. Seems to pack a wallop.
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No, it's pretty common in modern medicine and it's also being studied and used in the treatment of migraines (as mentioned), depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc. with overall very good results (sometimes in higher doses, often in subclinical doses).  See also LSD, psilocybin and even MDMA (ecstasy) which are also being studied in degenerative neurological diseases.  

Stupid autocorrect.


I believe that it's also used as an anesthetic in primitive conditions. I think I've heard that Special forces medics carry and use it.

From what little I know about it, it's a very interesting drug. Seems to pack a wallop.

Commonwealth countries let paramedics administer ketamine.

You could consider their density primitive, so....


Kharn
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I am firmly of the opinion that this is one of the funniest things that humanity has ever made.

Link Posted: 10/27/2021 1:35:48 PM EST
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I knew a guy whose girlfriend died from a Special K overdose.
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