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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:38:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My rep was just sworn in this morning and I'm not having any luck finding contact info for him online. Any suggestions? My first suggestion would be to tell us who your rep is becuase that might help determine possible solutions. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a perfect microcosm of why the Republicans hate Trump. Those handful of Reps who voted for Jordan know that McCarthy is a swamp creature and refuse to go along with a party that sells us out to the Leftist agenda at every turn for 30 shekels every time. Trump was exactly the same thing to them. Going back to the Obama years.........so was the Tea Party. Every time the national government takes a collective corrupt turn to the Left, an empowered and principled right wing sect comes to power among the grass roots Republicans in response. Every time that small contingent of principled right wingers raise their heads and their hands, the Judases of the GOP work with the Democrats to crush them. And every time, the establishment has to get more and more openly blatant in their cheating to win subsequent elections. Something has to give because while you can crush the electorate, you can't crush their desire for freedom, fairness, and self determination. It's going to boil down to all those Fed LE folks who swore an allegiance to the Constitution. Do they finally start cracking down on the cheating corrupt politicians, or the right wing grassroots citizenry and the Reps they occasionally manage to get put into office? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:41:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Give them credit they almost never do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The democrats are free to do that anytime. Give them credit they almost never do. I believe the democrats cant do that and maintain the illusion of the GOP establishment being a viable counter party. If the Dems cross over it will clearly highlight the establishment protecting itself and can be used to people waking up to how both sides work together to fuck us. Today was a disaster for the GOP establishment, and the overall establishment in general. They dont have many good moves left without either making major concessions to MAGA, or pulling the mask off and identifying themselves as enemy from within. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:42:53 PM EDT
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If they fuck this up, I’ll never vote for any conservative candidate.
I will vote for the most liberal candidate in every race so they will go ahead and burn this dumpster fire to the ground. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:43:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump Over the years I've gotten the impression that he'd rather be seen as endorsing someone that appears likely to win rather than a better person that is likely to lose. It's one of the flaws of the human ego. ETA I'd bet the house that his endorsement has nothing to do with any love for McCarthy, it's more about him being seen as picking a winner. That and McCarthy probably blew a bunch of smoke up Trump's ass about what he would or wouldn't do as speaker. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe the democrats cant do that and maintain the illusion of the GOP establishment being a viable counter party. If the Dems cross over it will clearly highlight the establishment protecting itself and can be used to people waking up to how both sides work together to fuck us. Today was a disaster for the GOP establishment, and the overall establishment in general. They dont have many good moves left without either making major concessions to MAGA, or pulling the mask off and identifying themselves as enemy from within. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:46:58 PM EDT
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I'd like to add right now things are in chaos. Now is the critical moment your calls and emails will have max impact before the backroom deals can be done. Let your rep know what you want before the machine can work on them!
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to add right now things are in chaos. Now is the critical moment your calls and emails will have max impact before the backroom deals can be done. Let your rep know what you want before the machine can work on them! Eli Crane's 202 VM box is full, I'll email |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:51:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to add right now things are in chaos. Now is the critical moment your calls and emails will have max impact before the backroom deals can be done. Let your rep know what you want before the machine can work on them!  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:54:25 PM EDT
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Biden should be on a mic right now, tonight, praising McCarthy and say he hopes he wins to work with him.
That would make things spicey. If the GOP wasn't such an overly weak and generally back stabbing of bunch of man bitch cunts, I would care about all this. The GOP hates us just as much as the DNC. I enjoy seeing the turmoil. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:57:23 PM EDT
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Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 7:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump endorsed McCarthy, MAGA is fully backing the Swamp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe the democrats cant do that and maintain the illusion of the GOP establishment being a viable counter party. If the Dems cross over it will clearly highlight the establishment protecting itself and can be used to people waking up to how both sides work together to fuck us. Today was a disaster for the GOP establishment, and the overall establishment in general. They dont have many good moves left without either making major concessions to MAGA, or pulling the mask off and identifying themselves as enemy from within. MAGA is bigger than Trump these days. I tend to believe Trump was always swamp has been since he was bailed out by the Rothschild family, but the times, current events and his voice woke up real resistance in the country. Some of those in the resistance ran and got elected to office. Some of them broke the establishment plan today with their vote. They have been there long enough to know they cant trust the establishment to follow through on its promises, and some have suffered loss of committee appointments becuase of backlash from the establishment. This is their attempt at revenge. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:01:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they fuck this up, I’ll never vote for any conservative candidate. I will vote for the most liberal candidate in every race so they will go ahead and burn this dumpster fire to the ground. It's almost guaranteed they will fuck it up, it's what they do best. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:03:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Crenshaw: Republicans blowing up Speaker process are 'enemies' Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, vented about Republican 'enemies' upending the Speaker process in an interview with CNN. Look in the mirror fuck stick... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:04:37 PM EDT
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For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job.
Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:06:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they fuck this up, I’ll never vote for any conservative candidate. I will vote for the most liberal candidate in every race so they will go ahead and burn this dumpster fire to the ground. That sounds like a great plan, Do you plan on celebrating your victory with a nice hemlock toast.  ETA In case anyone doesn’t know it, Hemlock is a deadly poison. I would not suggest drinking it. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:07:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway? Ooof... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... Dumb chicks with big cans are great gossip sources. Matt knows this. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... Wouldn't that be some working across the aisle... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't that be some working across the aisle... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... Wouldn't that be some working across the aisle... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look in the mirror fuck stick... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dan Crenshaw: Republicans blowing up Speaker process are 'enemies' Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, vented about Republican 'enemies' upending the Speaker process in an interview with CNN. Look in the mirror fuck stick... Love the language referring to Americans as enemies. Good morning class. What does American do to it's enemies? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:13:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Interesting if true.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:13:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. Agreed, the R's should roll over and let mccarthy gain speakership. Principles are dumb anyways... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:14:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. You’re wrong. And it’s this line of thinking that gets us where we are today. I’m fucking sick and tired of the slow march to where the left wants to go anyway. This compromise bullshit does nothing for us. WAKE UP. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:14:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pumping your enemy for information isn't working across the aisle. It is gathering intelligence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... Wouldn't that be some working across the aisle... No, I meant the mccarthy deal with the d's... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:14:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. I'll take any number of members of the house that have been demanding accountability. I dont care how this makes the Republican party as a whole look. This is the civil war within the GOP coming to a head. Pro freedom needs to win or we continue down the road the GOP establishment has lead us for decades. If the GOP establishment wants to cross the isle and vote in a democrat as speaker I'm good with it. It marks them clearly as enemy and makes it easier for us to remove them. Without rooting these people out of the GOP nothing will ever change, they will block it or leave things easily reversed by the next political swing. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? Oh idk, how about anyone that does the work to get their votes lined up before the election, which by the way is literally the job. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. The problem is nothing will get done with McCarthy as speaker either. He will likely be another John Boehner or Paul Ryan. All that will happen with them is they will block the most radical stuff from being passed by the democrats. Which is important but with the GOP holding the majority of seats that seems likely to be the case regardless who gets the speakership. I'd prefer Jordan or Scalise. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:18:33 PM EDT
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Can we just cancel the next 2 years of congress? I think that's probably the best option
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:18:49 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dan Crenshaw: Republicans blowing up Speaker process are 'enemies' Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, vented about Republican 'enemies' upending the Speaker process in an interview with CNN. Eye Patch McCain |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:19:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, the R's should roll over and let mccarthy gain speakership. Principles are dumb anyways... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. Agreed, the R's should roll over and let mccarthy gain speakership. Principles are dumb anyways... It is not about rolling over. It is all about selecting someone who can win. Do you want Pelosi to be the next Speaker or would you like another Democrat? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:20:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden should be on a mic right now, tonight, praising McCarthy and say he hopes he wins to work with him. That would make things spicey. If the GOP wasn't such an overly weak and generally back stabbing of bunch of man bitch cunts, I would care about all this. The GOP hates us just as much as the DNC. I enjoy seeing the turmoil. The GOP is like the NRA, if a tenth of the people that complain were actual participative members the current situation would not exist. I've never met another Arfcommer while working with a campaign. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:21:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Over the years I've gotten the impression that he'd rather be seen as endorsing someone that appears likely to win rather than a better person that is likely to lose. It's one of the flaws of the human ego. ETA I'd bet the house that his endorsement has nothing to do with any love for McCarthy, it's more about him being seen as picking a winner. That and McCarthy probably blew a bunch of smoke up Trump's ass about what he would or wouldn't do as speaker. thats so cute but you are trying way too hard. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:21:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryShe told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal.  Yeah, I'm sure I'd believe her.... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:21:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is nothing will get done with McCarthy as speaker either. He will likely be another John Boehner or Paul Ryan. All that will happen with them is they will block the most radical stuff from being passed by the democrats. Which is important but with the GOP holding the majority of seats that seems likely to be the case regardless who gets the speakership. I'd prefer Jordan or Scalise. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. The problem is nothing will get done with McCarthy as speaker either. He will likely be another John Boehner or Paul Ryan. All that will happen with them is they will block the most radical stuff from being passed by the democrats. Which is important but with the GOP holding the majority of seats that seems likely to be the case regardless who gets the speakership. I'd prefer Jordan or Scalise. As I understand it, neither one of them wants the job. Am I wrong? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I meant the mccarthy deal with the d's... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted:
This apparently OPPONENTS OF Rep. Kevin McCarthy's bid for the House speakership are digging in after a tense discussion on the House floor between Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. The pair's conspicuous exchange in the back of the chamber on the first day of the 118th Congress was caught on C-SPAN and noted by many members in the building. Thanks to Gaetz and his far-right allies, McCarthy, a California Republican, failed to win the speakership on the first round of voting. Gaetz told Ocasio-Cortez that McCarthy has been telling Republicans that he'll be able to cut a deal with Democrats to vote present, enabling him to win a majority of those present and voting, according to Ocasio-Cortez. She told Gaetz that wasn't happening, and also double-checked with Democratic party leadership, confirming there'd be no side deal. ... Wouldn't that be some working across the aisle... No, I meant the mccarthy deal with the d's...
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take any number of members of the house that have been demanding accountability. I dont care how this makes the Republican party as a whole look. This is the civil war within the GOP coming to a head. Pro freedom needs to win or we continue down the road the GOP establishment has lead us for decades. If the GOP establishment wants to cross the isle and vote in a democrat as speaker I'm good with it. It marks them clearly as enemy and makes it easier for us to remove them. Without rooting these people out of the GOP nothing will ever change, they will block it or leave things easily reversed by the next political swing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. I'll take any number of members of the house that have been demanding accountability. I dont care how this makes the Republican party as a whole look. This is the civil war within the GOP coming to a head. Pro freedom needs to win or we continue down the road the GOP establishment has lead us for decades. If the GOP establishment wants to cross the isle and vote in a democrat as speaker I'm good with it. It marks them clearly as enemy and makes it easier for us to remove them. Without rooting these people out of the GOP nothing will ever change, they will block it or leave things easily reversed by the next political swing. They don’t have to cross the aisle. Nothing can be done until a speaker is elected. How many independent voters will vote Republican when we cannot elect a Speaker. We will be one a party country with the same party controlling both Chicago and the US government. Guess which party that would be? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:27:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh idk, how about anyone that does the work to get their votes lined up before the election, which by the way is literally the job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? Oh idk, how about anyone that does the work to get their votes lined up before the election, which by the way is literally the job. You know the Speaker does not have to be a sitting congressman. Maybe you can throw your hat in the ring? You stand as much a chance as anyone else. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:27:54 PM EDT
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It’s a win for America that they can’t seat a speaker.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MAGA is bigger than Trump these days. I tend to believe Trump was always swamp has been since he was bailed out by the Rothschild family, but the times, current events and his voice woke up real resistance in the country. Some of those in the resistance ran and got elected to office. Some of them broke the establishment plan today with their vote. They have been there long enough to know they cant trust the establishment to follow through on its promises, and some have suffered loss of committee appointments becuase of backlash from the establishment. This is their attempt at revenge. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t have to cross the aisle. Nothing can be done until a speaker is elected. How many independent voters will vote Republican when we cannot elect a Speaker. We will be one a party country with the same party controlling both Chicago and the US government. Guess which party that would be? Can they bring things like a vote for budget to the floor without a speaker? If they can its going to be hard to stop the establishment. If they cant everything gets shutdown until the speaker is elected. This would be a solid hammer to force concessions from the GOP. I think the chaos favors republicans. Just look at the approval rating of congress and how people rage at how they do nothing. Well they are doing something now by challenging the status quo. I think that plays well if the resistance gets their voice out. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:32:36 PM EDT
[#44]
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:33:18 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a win for America that they can’t seat a speaker. It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:36:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can they bring things like a vote for budget to the floor without a speaker? If they can its going to be hard to stop the establishment. If they cant everything gets shutdown. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They don’t have to cross the aisle. Nothing can be done until a speaker is elected. How many independent voters will vote Republican when we cannot elect a Speaker. We will be one a party country with the same party controlling both Chicago and the US government. Guess which party that would be? Can they bring things like a vote for budget to the floor without a speaker? If they can its going to be hard to stop the establishment. If they cant everything gets shutdown. Nothing can be voted on without a Speaker. Every time I can remember the government being shutdown, the voters have taken it out on the Republicans and voted for Democrats. I for one would like to see fewer democrats in Congress. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. An establishment speaker will never permit any real investigation of the swamp as it will expose them. There will never be any real accountability for the endless crimes committed by the swamp if an establishment member is speaker. You will only get words and demands for cash from McCarthy and his ilk. Poeple forget Romney's son has ties to HUnter's business dealings through Rosemont Seneca. https://centipedenation.com/first-column/throwback-biden-pelosi-kerry-and-romney-ukraine-corrupt-dealings/ |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:43:46 PM EDT
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Remember when Trump was elected and Republicans controlled 3 branches of govt and got nothing accomplished? Thank Rinos. Thank the establishment. Thank the Swamp.
IF McCarthy gets the job it'll just be more of the same controlled opposition and we will all get McFucked over on issues that matter while insane sums of tax dollars are just pissed away. I for one am tired of being McFucked by people who claim to be on my team. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:45:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not about rolling over. It is all about selecting someone who can win. Do you want Pelosi to be the next Speaker or would you like another Democrat? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can't come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don't have a problem voting as a block but we haven't learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can't learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. Agreed, the R's should roll over and let mccarthy gain speakership. Principles are dumb anyways... It is not about rolling over. It is all about selecting someone who can win. Do you want Pelosi to be the next Speaker or would you like another Democrat? You know, this is analgous to the money pump & dump in ukraine. On the one hand: Dead orcs at any cost to the USofA because Russia is bad. On the other: The continued (high profile) spending on another country's border is inexcusable and further drives the dollar to shit On the one hand: mccarthy atleast has an R behind his name, right?! On the other: The principles being shown by the few IS ABOUT FUCKING TIME Where does a line get drawn? Who draws this line? Fuck compromise, lets see some heels dug in... ...I'd rather not have mccarthy. It would be glorious (in its own way) if mccarthy worked with the d to get less voting opposition so as to gain speakership. It would be moar glorious if someone that had R principles n values got the speakership. Yet moar glorious would be 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ummmm.... Trump endorsed McCarthy for Speakership. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is a perfect microcosm of why the Republicans hate Trump. Those handful of Reps who voted for Jordan know that McCarthy is a swamp creature and refuse to go along with a party that sells us out to the Leftist agenda at every turn for 30 shekels every time. Trump was exactly the same thing to them. Going back to the Obama years.........so was the Tea Party. Every time the national government takes a collective corrupt turn to the Left, an empowered and principled right wing sect comes to power among the grass roots Republicans in response. Every time that small contingent of principled right wingers raise their heads and their hands, the Judases of the GOP work with the Democrats to crush them. And every time, the establishment has to get more and more openly blatant in their cheating to win subsequent elections. Something has to give because while you can crush the electorate, you can't crush their desire for freedom, fairness, and self determination. It's going to boil down to all those Fed LE folks who swore an allegiance to the Constitution. Do they finally start cracking down on the cheating corrupt politicians, or the right wing grassroots citizenry and the Reps they occasionally manage to get put into office? Trump has a known history of throwing wild curveballs. This is one of them. It is very possible that Trump's internal polling may have flipped him, and now he wants to play nice with the RINO majority. My overall point still stands. |
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