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Posted: 4/19/2016 5:36:14 PM EST

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I had read that samurai swords or katanas had their handles wrapped in a ray's skin. They call it "shagreen". I always wondered what 1911 grips made from shagreen would look and feel like.

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is leather a common grip material? I', guessing it would be glued to a wood backer.

I've always wanted a dagger with a shagreen grip.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:36:59 PM EST

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Locally they are over an order of magnitude larger than the bottom feeders you are actually after. The fight is not especially active, but it's powerful and very long lasting. Don't do it with light tackle.

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How hard was the fight while reeling that ray in?

Locally they are over an order of magnitude larger than the bottom feeders you are actually after. The fight is not especially active, but it's powerful and very long lasting. Don't do it with light tackle.

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I was Halibut fishing in AK, and dragged a 6' wide skate up, before I saw what it was I thought it was a barn door halibut, that bastard came up flat from a hundred and fifty or more feet.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:42:01 PM EST

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Worked with a horticulturist at the Toledo Zoo years ago, She was in the south American Rain forest exhibit and while planting her foot slipped into the stream. it startled a Xingu River stingray.

It put its barb all the way through her boot from the sole through the top - right through her foot. I guess they are venomous because she was laid up in the ICU for a while

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:42:27 PM EST

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Dishonest restaurants used to pass them off as scallops.

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They are pretty tasty when you cut the wings into medallions, baste with olive oil, season with some lemon pepper and a little salt, and grill

Dishonest restaurants used to pass them off as scallops.

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My dad called out one of the finer restaraunts in DC once for serving die cut Ray.

They denied it but took the plate back

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:42:40 PM EST

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I have not caught or eaten ray, but I have caught and eaten skate. The wings are delicious, and yes, it is very similar to scallops in taste, but not quite texture. Normally we release them, but if one is not going to survive, we keep it.

I hate cleaning the damn things, even after hours of being "dead", the damn things still try to flap their wings.... even after the wings are cut off. It is tough to fillet something that is still moving!

Even after being cut into steaks, bagged and put on ice, the meat still twitches.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:45:43 PM EST

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If you think rays can be passed off as scallops, then you never eaten any rays.

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A lot of people don't know what scallops are supposed to taste like. If you got big scallops, you're
likely eating skate belly. Especially if they're cheap.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:48:27 PM EST

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Why kill it with fire? It's not like it's a dangerous creature like a spider.

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Tell that to steve erwin

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:52:26 PM EST

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What's it taste like?

pussy

Cool, I love pussy!

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:52:38 PM EST

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Damn Germans!

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:53:00 PM EST

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Same here. In the spring and summer months at the St. Louis Zoo, you can pet and feed Cownose Stingrays. They seem to be fairly social creatures.

ETA: granted the ones at the zoo are not 50 Lbs. They are probably only a few pounds.

Posted: 4/19/2016 5:56:51 PM EST

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My GF was a little nervous about it, but she (and I) had a great time swimming with the rays. We went on a small excursion boat, and got out there about 45 minutes before all the big tourist boats.

Posted: 4/19/2016 6:03:18 PM EST

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We went to Sting ray city 2 weeks after Irwin was killed it was kind of scary standing in the water with the rays when they first showed up.
OP I worked with a guy that looked like that.

Posted: 4/19/2016 10:45:40 PM EST

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If that was my Ray and I caught it legally, I would have killed it where I caught it and not dragged it on the beach.

To me that's torture leading to a slow death.

But what do I know?

I kill my animals as quickly and humanely as I can.

Posted: 4/20/2016 5:54:49 AM EST

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Never ate stingray and probably bony

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Stingrays, like sharks, don't have any bones. Their 'skeleton' is made of cartilage.

Posted: 4/20/2016 5:58:10 AM EST

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I had read that samurai swords or katanas had their handles wrapped in a ray's skin. They call it "shagreen". I always wondered what 1911 grips made from shagreen would look and feel like.

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USN M1852 Naval Officer's swords traditionally are made with ray skin, although sometimes shark skin, some kind of fish skin, or even silver net were used. These days they are commonly made with plastic, but could certainly be made with ray skin of someone wanted. Ray skin is the most common on the vintage and antique swords.

Posted: 4/20/2016 5:58:12 AM EST

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*throws Pokeball*

Posted: 4/20/2016 6:12:02 AM EST

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Same here. In the spring and summer months at the St. Louis Zoo, you can pet and feed Cownose Stingrays. They seem to be fairly social creatures.

ETA: granted the ones at the zoo are not 50 Lbs. They are probably only a few pounds.

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I think its cute

Same here. In the spring and summer months at the St. Louis Zoo, you can pet and feed Cownose Stingrays. They seem to be fairly social creatures.

ETA: granted the ones at the zoo are not 50 Lbs. They are probably only a few pounds.

with their tails docked.

Posted: 4/20/2016 7:45:31 AM EST

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I was Halibut fishing in AK, and dragged a 6' wide skate up, before I saw what it was I thought it was a barn door halibut, that bastard came up flat from a hundred and fifty or more feet.

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How hard was the fight while reeling that ray in?

Locally they are over an order of magnitude larger than the bottom feeders you are actually after. The fight is not especially active, but it's powerful and very long lasting. Don't do it with light tackle.

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I was Halibut fishing in AK, and dragged a 6' wide skate up, before I saw what it was I thought it was a barn door halibut, that bastard came up flat from a hundred and fifty or more feet.

Caught a 25-35 pounder a couple of years ago. It fought like a fucking shark for about 45 minutes. Pier was full too, a lot of nice people pulled their lines in so I could fight that beast.

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:05:27 AM EST

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The Chesapeake Bay is full of them. They severely damage efforts to bring back the oyster population.

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This And my efforts to catch cobia.....they put up a good fight on light tackle though....then it gets boring

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:26:50 AM EST

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Poor mans scallops

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:31:59 AM EST

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Rays are real high on my catch-and-release list.

Fun to catch but good to let go.

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:32:50 AM EST

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They are awesome to catch from the surf because they are so powerful...especially on light tackle....I have had them rip the pole out of the holder....love em.

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:38:34 AM EST

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We used to go fishing in the Bahamas and they'd follow to boat up to the beach and suck the fish skin from between your toes. The sharks then followed the rays in.

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:41:55 AM EST

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Those murdering bastards!

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:48:34 AM EST

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That's nothing. When I worked on a shrimp boat we'd catch about 200 of giant cownose rays on a single drag a few times a year. Imagine wading through a 25' x 30' deck filled with them up to your knees, their tails whipping back and forth as they tried to nail you with their 12" spines, and having to lift each one over the 4' rail because they were too big to fit through the scupper.

I had a nice collection of big spines, but lost it over the years. I wish I still had them...

Posted: 4/20/2016 9:49:48 AM EST

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Too soon?

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:01:41 AM EST

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That was great.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:04:54 AM EST

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Meh...no kill.

Catch and release.

I've probably caught more rays than any other species in my lifetime of fishing around the Tampa Bay area.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:06:48 AM EST

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Grill it with fire maybe....I think Andrew Zimmern just ate one of those while fishing off a boat, said they taste great....

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:06:59 AM EST

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Never ate stingray and probably bony

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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:07:27 AM EST

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Rays put up one hell of a fight, I swear they just suction-cup themselves to the seabed and let you pull them up while they lay flat

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:08:32 AM EST

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Crikey!

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:10:23 AM EST

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I'd of called Fish and game...to come arrest the crazy bitch, its a crime to interfere with the lawful taking of game and they can, and do, arrest or cite for it with glee. (of course they arrest and cite with glee ANYTHING, its kinda their thing.

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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:11:18 AM EST

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dove and swam with them, cool animals and I release them. has a 8 footer swim up and check me out in the keyes while diving. they are very inquisitive and friendly

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:12:00 AM EST

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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:13:50 AM EST

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I went on a company sponsored trip to Grand Cayman and they took us out to swim with the stingrays. It was like a month after the crocodile dude got stabbed in the chest.

NOPE!

I can see them just fine from the boat.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:14:05 AM EST

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Pretty much, that's why they make fake scallops from stingray.

Fillet that thing up, you could get 4 good steaks from it.
We used to catch rays all the time off the beach at Fripp, some as big as that.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:17:55 AM EST

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dove and swam with them, cool animals and I release them. has a 8 footer swim up and check me out in the keyes while diving. they are very inquisitive and friendly

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Spotted eagle ray, saw one about that size diving in St Thomas, it was right under the boat when my dad and I hit the water, and was gone before anyone else got a look at it.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:18:21 AM EST

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If you think rays can be passed off as scallops, then you never eaten any rays.

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Yeah it must be a certain type. Because I had skate last week and as usual it's like a thin layer of tender long flake/strings of meaton top of the flat cartilages layer, then same thing on the bottom. Delish. All the Portuguese/Brazilian markets around here have it, about $5.99 a pound.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:19:24 AM EST

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Lol. "Kill it with fire"? It's a stingray.

Don't ever go to Stingray City, OP. You might soil yourself.

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I've done that twice, there.

It's a lot of fun. Highly recommended.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:20:13 AM EST

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One of those killed Steve Irwin, fuck them all.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:23:42 AM EST

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Chicken.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:34:24 AM EST

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Posted: 4/20/2016 10:37:11 AM EST

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Good bait.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:39:03 AM EST

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This. The guy we used to rent a beach house from would make them for us. Don't know if it was ray or skate exactly but they weren't bad.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:41:02 AM EST

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Fun as hell to catch those - feels like winching in driftwood in a current. I wish I could have tried one that I caught, but was with a hostile party and it was deamed unacceptable - as they kept throwing illegal over sized redfish in the ice chest.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:46:19 AM EST

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Fun as hell to catch those - feels like winching in driftwood in a current. I wish I could have tried one that I caught, but was with a hostile party and it was deamed unacceptable - as they kept throwing illegal over sized redfish in the ice chest.

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Gotta give them a little slack so they start to run, then PULLLLLLL

I made a spear to drag them up on the beach after they would stop dead in 2ft of water.

Posted: 4/20/2016 10:51:29 AM EST

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It's a fish, dude. It wasn't bothering anybody until a human hauled it up to the surface. In fact, I'm sure it'd be much happier if that entire episode had never occured.