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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:05:29 PM EST
[#1]
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I suppose it's possible that the Patriots were not fired correctly due to a competency crisis? I've read on here before from people that should know that ADA was kind of a dumping group for less than rock stars. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:07:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We absolutely knew that attack was coming, in advance. That's all I'm going to say. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: FYI, this is the same base that Iran conducted a missile attack on a couple years ago in retaliation for Soleimani. They called us and told us they were doing it so we could move people and equipment to safety. This is the same thing the senile caesar did with the strike on the Houthis. They knew two weeks ahead of time. We absolutely knew that attack was coming, in advance. That's all I'm going to say. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:08:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think patriots need to go to Ukraine. Besides they are old and paid for so it's free Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can we not at least put some Patriot batteries around these bases? How hard would that be? I think patriots need to go to Ukraine. Besides they are old and paid for so it's free Took me a second |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:12:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fixt Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
We need to start killing Iranians. Fixt Yeah but the ones who need killing the most are deep in Iran! |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:14:05 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I swear some you have an acute case of Biden Derangement Syndrome. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Biden pays extra for wounded/killed US soldiers. I swear some you have an acute case of Biden Derangement Syndrome.  |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:15:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose it's possible that the Patriots were not fired correctly due to a competency crisis? I've read on here before from people that should know that ADA was kind of a dumping group for less than rock stars. The FAA would suggest we arm the defense systems with blind, paralyzed retards to ensure our safety. Otherwise this wouldn't have happened. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:17:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF? They would not be protecting American lives and property in Ukraine. I think that was sarcasm |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:19:25 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:20:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF? They would not be protecting American lives and property in Ukraine. Why would you think that American lives have a priority? Only dead Americans have any value. Why do you think the government refuses to consider hardening schools. Political value is everything. They don’t need your vote. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:23:40 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or we wish Iraq good luck and God speed, bring our guys home, and let the Islamic State assholes do their thing. Give Iran their own Vietnam, again. You’re assuming the Government doesn’t want war. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:29:09 PM EST
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I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021.
When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:31:18 PM EST
[#12]
It should be easy to bomb the factory where the missiles are manufactured. Biden is waiting until closer to the election to do this.
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:31:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose it's possible that the Patriots were not fired correctly due to a competency crisis? I've read on here before from people that should know that ADA was kind of a dumping group for less than rock stars. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
I suppose it's possible that the Patriots were not fired correctly due to a competency crisis? I've read on here before from people that should know that ADA was kind of a dumping group for less than rock stars. It's a possibility, but only one possibility. Defense is difficult. Even wth the best tech, perfectly utilized to it's maximum potential, there's always a good chance that a part of the attack gets through the defenses. We are very lucky that we haven't lost sailors in the Red Sea this last month too. The best defense is a good offense. We should have been fucking up Iran a few months ago. Or better yet, getting others to do it. Instead the clowns in charge let China broker a deal between the Sauds and Iran's buddies. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:33:43 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021. When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. Thank you. Seriously. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:35:30 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021. When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. I have friends (Security Forces and Air Traffic Control) that were there prior to you taking over and they said the place was a mess. One just got back from a second time there and I'm looking forward to talking to him. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:36:35 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You remember Iran attacked the same exact base during Trump’s presidency too, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FJB is Iran's bitch. You remember Iran attacked the same exact base during Trump’s presidency too, right? Yeah after Trump BBQd their general. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:37:04 PM EST
[#17]
Shit. I better not watch sportball today so I can address this issue.
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:38:01 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a possibility, but only one possibility. Defense is difficult. Even wth the best tech, perfectly utilized to it's maximum potential, there's always a good chance that a part of the attack gets through the defenses. We are very lucky that we haven't lost sailors in the Red Sea this last month too. The best defense is a good offense. We should have been fucking up Iran a few months ago. Or better yet, getting others to do it. Instead the clowns in charge let China broker a deal between the Sauds and Iran's buddies. We had a regional foil to Iran. I'm trying to remember what happened to him. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:38:34 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021. When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. Were you the base commander that was trying to kick the unvaxxed contractors out before the final word from DoD? |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:38:55 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to start killing Iranians. In Iran |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:39:50 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I suppose it's possible that the Patriots were not fired correctly due to a competency crisis? I've read on here before from people that should know that ADA was kind of a dumping group for less than rock stars. Or the most likely explanation is they fired more missiles and rockets at the base than we had missiles to intercept them with. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:40:01 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think patriots need to go to Ukraine. Besides they are old and paid for so it's free Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can we not at least put some Patriot batteries around these bases? How hard would that be? I think patriots need to go to Ukraine. Besides they are old and paid for so it's free Reading is for suckers. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:40:16 PM EST
[#23]
Glass Tehran...
We are at war with them so we should act like it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:41:00 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021. When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. Sorry for the end of your career but good on you for doing what other commanders failed at. You don't need force protection until you do. I'm sure your efforts went to good use during the attack. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:41:53 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF? They would not be protecting American lives and property in Ukraine. Uh, we do have biolabs there ya know. 
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:43:44 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or the most likely explanation is they fired more missiles and rockets at the base than we had missiles to intercept them with. That would seem to provoke even more questions about intel competencies and strategic choice making. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:43:48 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I swear to God, if one of you window licking mouth breathers says "this would never happen under Trump", we're dragging you out back and beating you with a hose. Truth hater! |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:57:17 PM EST
[#28]
As long there aren't any fatalities... no need to strike back.
Trump approved |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 1:59:01 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was no warning from Iran. I'm not sure where that disinformation started but they were absolutely trying to kill our people. When the base commander returned, they expected to find the personnel they left behind to have been killed. Cope from Trump supporters that DONT want to believe Trump bitched out multiple times on protecting US servicemen overseas. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:00:04 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was the last O-6 commander of AAAB before we reduced the structure there in 2021. When I arrived at the start of my tour, I was utterly appalled at the "go through the motions" force protection that was in place. Crumbling bunkers, or no bunkers at all. No hardening of facilities, wide open exterior windows to interior rooms, etc. Defensive systems oriented incorrectly, or with gaps in coverage over billeting, dining, or operations areas. You name the problem, I could find an example of it. Years of complacency and/or laziness had turned it into a forward Iraqi version of our various Kuwait bases. I spent 90% of my resources and wasta on force protection, rebuilding all that to the tune of thousands of truckloads of Class IV and delays to the new GreenBeans Coffee and mini PX while we rebuilt force pro assets instead. It pissed a lot of people off, to the tune of a "ya know, we don't need a colonel forward and can run this base with a lieutenant colonel who takes his instructions from the HQ in the rear" shift partway through my tour. I got done what I thought needed to be done, got reassigned, and retired in frustration shortly thereafter. I hope most of what I did is still there, and if so it likely saved some American lives again. I'm ok with that as a last tour accomplishment even though I left theater with almost no friends or supporters in my higher HQ. In this day and age, Officers either quite / retire, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. I hope you are well and enjoying your retirement and will buy you a beer if our paths cross again. We always liked you out here. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:00:15 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cope from Trump supporters that want to believe Trump bitched out multiple times on protecting US servicemen overseas. T has been out of the picture for years. We are being attacked now. Under the dems watch. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:01:53 PM EST
[#32]
Are the B1 and B52's not working ?
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:03:38 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:03:51 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: T has been out of the picture for years. We are being attacked now. Under the dems watch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cope from Trump supporters that want to believe Trump bitched out multiple times on protecting US servicemen overseas. T has been out of the picture for years. We are being attacked now. Under the dems watch. I'm not happy about it under anyone's watch. But I'm not about to let Trump re-write history that he's a no nonsense CIC. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:05:26 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if…hear me out…we left Iraq and the entire Middle East alone, minded our business around the world and worried about America for a little while? They’d still fuck with us |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:07:53 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FJB is Iran's bitch. Biden is the entire world's bitch. I guess that's what happens when you have a fool in the Whitehouse and a bunch of gender confused mentally ill Democrats running the Executive Branch. Even Mexico is bribing the US on immigration. We have the worst and most corrupt administration since the 1970's |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:15:26 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:17:28 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not happy about it under anyone's watch. But I'm not about to let Trump re-write history that he's a no nonsense CIC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cope from Trump supporters that want to believe Trump bitched out multiple times on protecting US servicemen overseas. T has been out of the picture for years. We are being attacked now. Under the dems watch. I'm not happy about it under anyone's watch. But I'm not about to let Trump re-write history that he's a no nonsense CIC. Killing Solemonie (sp?) was a very big deal. No other president post Reagan has the balls for it. Obama and Bush both had every reason and opportunity and were giant pussies. In my opinion, if Iran's response attack on All Assad had hurt or killed more of our people, we would have brought them more pain. To your point, Trump did blink at other times. The example that comes to mind is that we should have destroyed the air defense battery that shot down our big UAV in international airspace. We should have learned by now not to blink with Iran. Every time we do, and show weakness, they make us pay for it. And the current admin isn't blinking, they are full on asleep at the wheel. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:19:47 PM EST
[#39]
Why are we in Iraq? Well besides oil?
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:19:53 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They’d still fuck with us Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if…hear me out…we left Iraq and the entire Middle East alone, minded our business around the world and worried about America for a little while? They’d still fuck with us Absolutely. All the backward sand people take kindness for weakness and an invitation to attack and take what is yours. There are still a lot of cavemen out there, led by strongman authoritarian regimes. The only thing those cultures respect is power. And they need to be reminded fairly regularly. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:25:20 PM EST
[#41]
Just start reducing the shrines in Iran to rubble.
4 of them to start. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:37:10 PM EST
[#42]
Waiting for @elcope to chime in.
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:42:57 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If only there was a way to retaliate so this might not happen again. Oh well. Lloyd Austin will make it happen. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:43:04 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we not at least put some Patriot batteries around these bases? How hard would that be? Read the original post  |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:45:41 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I swear to God, if one of you window licking mouth breathers says "this would never happen under Trump", we're dragging you out back and beating you with a hose. The truth hurts. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:46:57 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FJB is Iran's bitch. He is everyone’s bitch on the world stage. They all know he can be bought and what the price is. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:48:24 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we not at least put some Patriot batteries around these bases? How hard would that be? Assloads of Patriots were moved into Erbil and back to Al Asad when Israel kicked off. In my experience, a lot of our defensive stuff just doesn't work that well
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:50:04 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can we not at least put some Patriot batteries around these bases? How hard would that be? |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:50:11 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The truth hurts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I swear to God, if one of you window licking mouth breathers says "this would never happen under Trump", we're dragging you out back and beating you with a hose. The truth hurts. |
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Posted: 1/20/2024 2:50:29 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We need to start killing Iranians. In Iran I think leveling Tehran would be a decent retaliation. |
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