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Posted: 8/27/2019 8:26:37 PM EDT
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man where do you find all of this shit? figured you wouldve long since run out of asian lady gifs 
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Posted: 8/27/2019 8:34:56 PM EDT
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The MG42 thread went well, so let's try this again. Full size Uzi, going to try TIG welding this time. Starting with this parts kit: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/389530/Uzi_Kit_jpg-1069293.JPG I think I'm going to use this repair section https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-REPAIR-SECTION-80-RECEIVER-161p4277.htm even though it has a blocking bar I can mill that off. I'm still deciding but I will likely use the rear section from the kit because it has decent markings on it. On the other hand it would be simpler just to weld the front on. For those of you that have welded one, jig or no jig? The design is fairly forgiving as far as geometry goes but I don't want to warp it during welding either. I have to get a threaded barrel too.... I was also thinking about saving the markings, but just went ahead and use the whole repair section. I didnt use a jig an mine went fine (once I remembered that I might need a feed ramp  )
ETA- I did have a slight problem getting the front straight so the bolt didnt drag on the barrel. Ended up just cutting the weld off one side and bending it till it was straight. No big problem |
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Posted: 8/27/2019 8:38:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:00:30 AM EDT
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The RTG jig is $159, I wonder if it's worth it... |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:00:50 AM EDT
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You wanna come down to the Retro match in Tallahassee next month?  |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:01:48 AM EDT
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The only thing I hate about this thread is that it was posted today and there isn't months worth of posts for me to go back and ogle. Although I am busy this holiday weekend I will be back at it next week. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:02:38 AM EDT
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I would agree but it can be done without a jig. Put together this parts set with the reciever that has the rear section on it. I MIG welded it and it doesnt look too bad except where the blocking bar welds are, didn't use enough power at first. Took a few whacks to the top cover to adjust bolt clearance, after that function has been 100%. However I did have my model A to measure off of and compare to when building. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274423/20170815_123653_jpg-1069690.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Always jig.....always. I MIG welded it and it doesnt look too bad except where the blocking bar welds are, didn't use enough power at first. Took a few whacks to the top cover to adjust bolt clearance, after that function has been 100%. However I did have my model A to measure off of and compare to when building. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/274423/20170815_123653_jpg-1069690.JPG |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:19:56 AM EDT
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Does my MG42 count as retro?
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Posted: 8/28/2019 10:40:00 AM EDT
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I used that section, its good. I was also thinking about saving the markings, but just went ahead and use the whole repair section. I didnt use a jig an mine went fine (once I remembered that I might need a feed ramp )
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The MG42 thread went well, so let's try this again. Full size Uzi, going to try TIG welding this time. Starting with this parts kit: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/389530/Uzi_Kit_jpg-1069293.JPG I think I'm going to use this repair section https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-REPAIR-SECTION-80-RECEIVER-161p4277.htm even though it has a blocking bar I can mill that off. I'm still deciding but I will likely use the rear section from the kit because it has decent markings on it. On the other hand it would be simpler just to weld the front on. For those of you that have welded one, jig or no jig? The design is fairly forgiving as far as geometry goes but I don't want to warp it during welding either. I have to get a threaded barrel too.... I was also thinking about saving the markings, but just went ahead and use the whole repair section. I didnt use a jig an mine went fine (once I remembered that I might need a feed ramp )
ETA- I did have a slight problem getting the front straight so the bolt didnt drag on the barrel. Ended up just cutting the weld off one side and bending it till it was straight. No big problem People often say that it's hard to screw up an Uzi but I'm sure I'll find a way lol. I think I'm gonna spring for the jig especially since I might do more in the future. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 11:04:44 AM EDT
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Cool thread ??
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Posted: 8/28/2019 2:57:34 PM EDT
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Does my MG42 count as retro? Uzi is retro. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:04:57 PM EDT
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MG42 is vintage. Uzi is retro. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Does my MG42 count as retro? Uzi is retro. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:18:01 PM EDT
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Does my MG42 count as retro? Uzi is retro. Here's my Uzi SBR w/BWE 3-lug barrel and SiCo Omega 9k. 
Have you seen Mark Serbu's Uzi rebuild vids?  Failed To Load Title  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:28:52 PM EDT
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This won't take months! Although I am busy this holiday weekend I will be back at it next week.
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:36:16 PM EDT
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I wish I knew how to weld.
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:36:54 PM EDT
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I wish I knew how to weld.
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:39:56 PM EDT
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Good luck on your build. I look forward to seeing how this progresses. Here's my Uzi SBR w/BWE 3-lug barrel and SiCo Omega 9k. https://i.imgur.com/Jx5mjdBl.jpg Have you seen Mark Serbu's Uzi rebuild vids?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA2vmCEmgNo
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Does my MG42 count as retro? Uzi is retro. Here's my Uzi SBR w/BWE 3-lug barrel and SiCo Omega 9k. https://i.imgur.com/Jx5mjdBl.jpg Have you seen Mark Serbu's Uzi rebuild vids? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA2vmCEmgNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzdCgbwIpQYes I did watch both of them, they're a little scrambled but very informative. Part 1 kinda had nothing to do with part 2 and he ended up heating it with a torch to straighten it out because he didn't use a jig. Makes me want to use a jig lol. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:41:48 PM EDT
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Man, if you had months to build an Uzi, you could do it from scratch with nothing but a hacksaw, some files, a vise, and a hammer... and of course plenty of steel stock. Totally different magnitude than building an MG42, it seems like some people don't understand that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This won't take months! Although I am busy this holiday weekend I will be back at it next week. I look forward to getting the welder and CNC fired up next week! |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:42:31 PM EDT
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I wish I knew how to weld. |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 3:50:28 PM EDT
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Buy a Harbor freight welder and some scrap metal. MIG welding is easy, it's mostly about clean metal and setting the machine up correctly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish I knew how to weld. No time like the present, and flux core wire welders are dirt cheap... and perfectly suitable for this kind of build. Why not grab a used or cheap new machine and give it a try? |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 4:34:20 PM EDT
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Does anyone know who's got the semi auto spring thing and buffer in stock? I think that's all I need to finish my semi.
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:23:08 PM EDT
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@bushmaster069 this man speaks the truth! No time like the present, and flux core wire welders are dirt cheap... and perfectly suitable for this kind of build. Why not grab a used or cheap new machine and give it a try? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish I knew how to weld. No time like the present, and flux core wire welders are dirt cheap... and perfectly suitable for this kind of build. Why not grab a used or cheap new machine and give it a try? |
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:25:31 PM EDT
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My wife will curse you guys, especially if I burn the house down. 
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Posted: 8/28/2019 9:30:33 PM EDT
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I had a conversion manual years ago! They used a breaker bar and notched ratchet to remove the bar.
torque it back and forth a few times and it comes right off. |
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Posted: 8/29/2019 6:41:06 AM EDT
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Robertrtg has longer front and rear sections available now.
https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-DEMILLED-FRONT-SIGHT-SECTION-LONGER-OLD-STYLE-166p6963.htm https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-DEMILLED-REAR-SECTION-LONGER-OLD-STYLE-166p6964.htm Edit: The East German parts are in really good shape if you go that route. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/IMI-UZI-GRIP-STICK-COMPLETE-EXCELLENT-166p2809.htm https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-TOP-COVER-COMPLETE-LIKE-NEW-166p2828.htm You could go this route as well. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-REPAIR-SECTION-80-RECEIVER-166p4277.htm The type of build your doing I would buy this for sure. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/DELUXE-UZI-SMG-PARTS-KIT-FOLDING-STOCK-166p5.htm |
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Posted: 8/29/2019 7:37:33 AM EDT
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Robertrtg has longer front and rear sections available now. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-DEMILLED-FRONT-SIGHT-SECTION-LONGER-OLD-STYLE-166p6963.htm https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-DEMILLED-REAR-SECTION-LONGER-OLD-STYLE-166p6964.htm Edit: The East German parts are in really good shape if you go that route. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/IMI-UZI-GRIP-STICK-COMPLETE-EXCELLENT-166p2809.htm https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-TOP-COVER-COMPLETE-LIKE-NEW-166p2828.htm You could go this route as well. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/UZI-REPAIR-SECTION-80-RECEIVER-166p4277.htm The type of build your doing I would buy this for sure. https://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/DELUXE-UZI-SMG-PARTS-KIT-FOLDING-STOCK-166p5.htm 
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Posted: 9/3/2019 9:30:39 AM EDT
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Ok the 80%, jig, and barrel are on the way.
I also grabbed one of these, I may or may not leave it on but it looked fun to try out  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 11:16:24 AM EDT
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Screw the OP, I’m only I’m here for the ice cream girl now! LOL
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Posted: 9/3/2019 11:40:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Screw the OP, I’m only I’m here for the ice cream girl now! LOL 
OP, I painted these this weekend, just in case it inspires you to do a sweet 80's paint job on the uzi.
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Screw the OP, I'm only I'm here for the ice cream girl now! LOL
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:13:31 PM EDT
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OP, I painted these this weekend, just in case it inspires you to do a sweet 80's paint job on the uzi.
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OP, I painted these this weekend, just in case it inspires you to do a sweet 80's paint job on the uzi.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20190902_150613-1076609.jpg |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:19:49 PM EDT
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Has anyone done a mini Uzi? How are the receiver builds different? Can you use a full size and mini repair section and you are GTG?
I know the internals are different, but I am concerned for the receiver. And before someone points out I am from Ca., I own a house in Lake Havasu on the American side. |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:20:31 PM EDT
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I think the only real solution here is to buy another parts kit and build another Uzi and paint it a bodacious 80's scheme Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OP, I painted these this weekend, just in case it inspires you to do a sweet 80's paint job on the uzi.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/138374/20190902_150613-1076609.jpg 
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:24:40 PM EDT
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Has anyone done a mini Uzi? How are the receiver builds different? Can you use a full size and mini repair section and you are GTG? I know the internals are different, but I am concerned for the receiver. And before someone points out I am from Ca., I own a house in Lake Havasu on the American side. |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:32:55 PM EDT
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I saw a bunch of cut up UZI's at a gun show a while back but I had to pass because I knew that I couldn't fix them and I could only hope that someone that could fix them would buy them.
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:33:52 PM EDT
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I'm not sure if I'm here for the Uzi build or just to watch the oriental girl swallow ice cream over and over.... |
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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:35:09 PM EDT
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how the fuck does she do that withbout getting an ice cream headache ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure if I'm here for the Uzi build or just to watch the oriental girl swallow ice cream over and over....  Lawrence of Arabia - The trick is not minding that it hurts |
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Posted: 9/5/2019 10:22:47 AM EDT
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Mags showed up yesterday, still waiting on receiver parts and barrel...
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Posted: 9/5/2019 4:41:31 PM EDT
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Mags showed up yesterday, still waiting on receiver parts and barrel... |
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Posted: 9/5/2019 4:43:31 PM EDT
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Mags showed up yesterday, still waiting on receiver parts and barrel... 
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Posted: 9/6/2019 2:27:37 PM EDT
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Not off to a great start with the RTG repair section. The jig won't fit with their blocking bar
 Attached FileI guess they welded it in too low. I have to cut it out anyway but it should fit. Also the jig is supposed to include both a semi auto and SMG alignment dowel, mine has two semi auto ones so I have to ask for the right part to be sent out. Dammit. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:13:50 AM EDT
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So I complained to RTG about the receiver not fitting their own jig and they said they know the welds suck and I have to fix it myself. When I said that was crap they told me I'm too picky, locked my account, and said they can't make a one off just for me.
Wow. The dude keeps repeating it's the highest quality repair section yet they're aware it doesn't fit their jig. Then he talks to me like I'm too stupid to understand. Worst customer servive ever smh |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:16:45 AM EDT
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I looked for a mini uzi parts kit and couldn't find one Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Has anyone done a mini Uzi? How are the receiver builds different? Can you use a full size and mini repair section and you are GTG? I know the internals are different, but I am concerned for the receiver. And before someone points out I am from Ca., I own a house in Lake Havasu on the American side. They have some mini parts. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:20:42 AM EDT
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So I complained to RTG about the receiver not fitting their own jig and they said they know the welds suck and I have to fix it myself. When I said that was crap they told me I'm too picky, locked my account, and said they can't make a one off just for me. Wow. The dude keeps repeating it's the highest quality repair section yet they're aware it doesn't fit their jig. Then he talks to me like I'm too stupid to understand. Worst customer servive ever smh That being said, I had to modify my jig to accept the blocking bar. The round blocking bar needs some fitting with a McKay semi auto bolt. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:44:04 AM EDT
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Robert is a good guy. That being said, I had to modify my jig to accept the blocking bar. The round blocking bar needs some fitting with a McKay semi auto bolt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I complained to RTG about the receiver not fitting their own jig and they said they know the welds suck and I have to fix it myself. When I said that was crap they told me I'm too picky, locked my account, and said they can't make a one off just for me. Wow. The dude keeps repeating it's the highest quality repair section yet they're aware it doesn't fit their jig. Then he talks to me like I'm too stupid to understand. Worst customer servive ever smh That being said, I had to modify my jig to accept the blocking bar. The round blocking bar needs some fitting with a McKay semi auto bolt. No thanks. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:52:56 AM EDT
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He's done nothing but tell me this receiver with known shit welds is "the best" and talk to me like I'm stupid. No thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I complained to RTG about the receiver not fitting their own jig and they said they know the welds suck and I have to fix it myself. When I said that was crap they told me I'm too picky, locked my account, and said they can't make a one off just for me. Wow. The dude keeps repeating it's the highest quality repair section yet they're aware it doesn't fit their jig. Then he talks to me like I'm too stupid to understand. Worst customer servive ever smh That being said, I had to modify my jig to accept the blocking bar. The round blocking bar needs some fitting with a McKay semi auto bolt. No thanks. The round blocking bar is cheaply done and does require fitting. For an FA, you don't need it anyway. Right? |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 5:55:23 PM EDT
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Wow, RTG has always had great customer service in my experience. I mostly dealt with a lady (assumed it was his wife). I had the wrong push pin shipped with an order. She told me to keep the wrong one and she would ship me another. She shipped two and an aluminum g3 mag with a hand written note apologizing for the mix up.
I've met Robert at gun show and he has hooked me up with some good deals. Must be getting grumpy in his old age. |
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Posted: 9/7/2019 11:10:52 PM EDT
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Sorry to hear. My interactions with RTG have always been excellent. The round blocking bar is cheaply done and does require fitting. For an FA, you don't need it anyway. Right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I complained to RTG about the receiver not fitting their own jig and they said they know the welds suck and I have to fix it myself. When I said that was crap they told me I'm too picky, locked my account, and said they can't make a one off just for me. Wow. The dude keeps repeating it's the highest quality repair section yet they're aware it doesn't fit their jig. Then he talks to me like I'm too stupid to understand. Worst customer servive ever smh That being said, I had to modify my jig to accept the blocking bar. The round blocking bar needs some fitting with a McKay semi auto bolt. No thanks. The round blocking bar is cheaply done and does require fitting. For an FA, you don't need it anyway. Right? I mean the website specifically says they're meant to be used together. Anyway I ground one of the welds off the front and the whole thing popped right off. Cheaply done is right. |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 12:01:14 PM EDT
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With the blocking bar cut off now I can see the jig doesn't fit under the rear sight "ear" either.
Junk. |
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Posted: 9/8/2019 12:23:32 PM EDT
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Well now it's a party!
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