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Posted: 6/17/2021 1:15:57 PM EDT
Small town, local tire shop that has treated us really well for over a decade. Took my 2020 F250 in for new tires today and he just called to tell me they smacked the passenger side mirror and will be ordering a replacement.
Replacement cost is $1400. I told him to send me pics. As a local, small business owner and all around nice guy I just can't see making them replace a mirror that's horribly overpriced on a truck that I consider a work truck and will use up and throw away when I'm done, even if it does look pretty nice right now. My price on the tires was pretty close to $1,400, so they'd be giving me a set of tires for the privilege of breaking a mirror. For them, that would really suck. I'll post pics in a minute from my phone. |
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hmmm... depends. If it's cosmetic damage only, and on a work truck, I'd tell them to let it slide.
If it's functional damage, break it you buy it. |
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So you’re willing to fix a $1400 mirror out of your own pocket because someone else broke it?
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Quoted: That price seems incredibly steep. View Quote I just remembered that my newly married and extremely poor daughter just had her car break down, it's a Honda minivan and the crank pully just pooped out, dropped the ring of the pully on the ground and left the belt flopping. We dropped it off to the shop just the other day. I think I'll ask them to work me out a swap of some sort, give them a big discount (free pass) on the mirror if they'll bill my daughter like $100 and not tell her the rest of the story. |
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Quoted: So you’re willing to fix a $1400 mirror out of your own pocket because someone else broke it? View Quote If it's just scratched/paint marked from rubbing on the doorway of the garage but still 100% functional and in one piece, I'm not going to replace it and I don't think it's worth a new set of tires to them. If it's badly cracked and going to cause issues with the function... We might still work something out. Good will is more valuable that getting what I deserve. |
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Let them do the right thing and tell them that's why you'll be back. Accidents happen.
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Maybe half it with them if you feel bad.
Honestly the price isn’t bad for the mirror for those saying it’s steep |
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Quoted: If the truck is well optioned, that sounds about right. The high end trucks have power fold/extend/adjust, defrosters, turn signals, and puddle lights. The basic trim level mirrors are still $500+ for simple power adjust mirrors. View Quote |
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Quoted: If it's just scratched/paint marked from rubbing on the doorway of the garage but still 100% functional and in one piece, I'm not going to replace it and I don't think it's worth a new set of tires to them. If it's badly cracked and going to cause issues with the function... We might still work something out. Good will is more valuable that getting what I deserve. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So you’re willing to fix a $1400 mirror out of your own pocket because someone else broke it? If it's just scratched/paint marked from rubbing on the doorway of the garage but still 100% functional and in one piece, I'm not going to replace it and I don't think it's worth a new set of tires to them. If it's badly cracked and going to cause issues with the function... We might still work something out. Good will is more valuable that getting what I deserve. If they hit the mirror on the doorway hard enough to break it there is a good chance the door is damaged too. Don't be too soft, just keep sending them business. You know you would make right any issue you caused for a customer, let them and you'll both be happier and the guy won't feel indebted to you. |
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Quoted: I just remembered that my newly married and extremely poor daughter just had her car break down, it's a Honda minivan and the crank pully just pooped out, dropped the ring of the pully on the ground and left the belt flopping. We dropped it off to the shop just the other day. I think I'll ask them to work me out a swap of some sort, give them a big discount (free pass) on the mirror if they'll bill my daughter like $100 and not tell her the rest of the story. View Quote |
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Good on you.
Their may be a non oem aftermarket mirror available. My wife washed he new Rav4 and didn't place the spayer in the holding tube and clip the hose to wall, pulled out, 'SNAP'. I repaired it the FIRST time, ordered one from Amazon for FAR less than what the OEM cost after another Whhops, I did it again..... Color matched perfectly and it fit fine, power functions are 100%. |
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Quoted: I just remembered that my newly married and extremely poor daughter just had her car break down, it's a Honda minivan and the crank pully just pooped out, dropped the ring of the pully on the ground and left the belt flopping. We dropped it off to the shop just the other day. I think I'll ask them to work me out a swap of some sort, give them a big discount (free pass) on the mirror if they'll bill my daughter like $100 and not tell her the rest of the story. View Quote That sounds like a win-win to me. |
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Quoted: If it's just scratched/paint marked from rubbing on the doorway of the garage but still 100% functional and in one piece, I'm not going to replace it and I don't think it's worth a new set of tires to them. If it's badly cracked and going to cause issues with the function... We might still work something out. Good will is more valuable that getting what I deserve. View Quote If that is an interference motor they may be better off buying you a mirror |
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Don't get too far ahead of yourself until you see it.
Other options include them buffing out surface issues or finding a takeoff from a junkyard. |
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$1400 mirror... does it have lane departure cameras, or other driver assistance stuff in it? Make sure their quote includes calibration and not just swapping parts, otherwise you could be in for funny performance issues and error lights down the line.
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Quoted: $1,400 worth of good will towards the local tire shop/mechanic is nice to have too. These guys know our cars and if we leave them overnight they'll call us and ask what needs to be done. View Quote If they comp'd the tire purchase I'd be perfectly happy with one from a junkyard. Especially if they just damaged the shell. Easy swap. |
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Tire changers are not know for being precise or delicate. Let them offer a place to mutually take it to, but I wouldn't let them personally repair it.
edit: read more of post, sounds like yall got history and trust each other. I wouldn't burn that down, but be more reasonable about it. Like who will do the repairs, cause if you let them, and it looks like crap or doesnt "function as it shoud" it may actually create more distrust for both parties. You will be seen as a kAren and they will be seen as some dishonest hillbillies. im a country side dweller btw., so im not special or some shit. Bonus: dont ever hire a friend to work for you, it will possibly ruin a good thing. Sometimes buddies dont make good employees or such. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I just remembered that my newly married and extremely poor daughter just had her car break down, it's a Honda minivan and the crank pully just pooped out, dropped the ring of the pully on the ground and left the belt flopping. We dropped it off to the shop just the other day. I think I'll ask them to work me out a swap of some sort, give them a big discount (free pass) on the mirror if they'll bill my daughter like $100 and not tell her the rest of the story. That sounds like a win-win to me. Agree I never saw the pics, but I'm assuming this is minor cosmetic damage rather than serious damage. It's a work truck, so I'm with OP on this. |
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Quoted: I just remembered that my newly married and extremely poor daughter just had her car break down, it's a Honda minivan and the crank pully just pooped out, dropped the ring of the pully on the ground and left the belt flopping. We dropped it off to the shop just the other day. I think I'll ask them to work me out a swap of some sort, give them a big discount (free pass) on the mirror if they'll bill my daughter like $100 and not tell her the rest of the story. View Quote |
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That's pretty upstanding, on both ends....
I had an alignment shop mess up a power mirror once.... near as I can tell, the guy must have taken the car out for a test drive, couldn't figure out the adjustment controls (weird European setup) and just used brute force to move the mirror. Broke the internal housing. Nobody said jack shit to me, and after I figured it out later and called the shop about it, they basically said "sorry, it must have been like that when you brought it in - we didn't touch the mirrors at all". Cost me like 400 bucks to get a new part imported. Needless to say, I never went back to that shop, and will still de-recommend them to friends and family. |
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Here’s the pics, it’s a bit worse than I was hoping.
I’ll look around for an aftermarket shell, maybe it’s easy to put the existing motors and sensors into a new shell? Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Id want that replaced and would not care how much it cost them.
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Quoted: Here's the pics, it's a bit worse than I was hoping. I'll look around for an aftermarket shell, maybe it's easy to put the existing motors and sensors into a new shell? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/E51D3079-20CC-451F-99B7-83A2FA55C56D_jpe-1981631.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/308830F7-62C3-4EE7-8BEA-E9D772788BC8_jpe-1981632.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/FF7130BA-D202-4CD3-BF1D-6BD334E9B353_jpe-1981633.JPG View Quote Attached File |
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@SCW
what gears do you have? what MPGs are you getting in that beast? |
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That ain't too bad. I wouldn't replace it, just drive it. Like you said, it's a work truck.
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I'd replace the clear cover and use a dark epoxy to fill ALL of the cracks to prevent corrosion from water.
If it was done properly it woul barely be noticable. And the OP doesn't seem like the type of man to do a walk around inspection everytime that he gets in it. |
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Quoted: Id want that replaced and would not care how much it cost them. View Quote Quoted: That ain't too bad. I wouldn't replace it, just drive it. Like you said, it's a work truck. View Quote Somewhere between these two I think. I was really hoping it wasn't cracked enough to let water in, but.. It's not like I'm going to be happy with a bunch of glue or calk sealing it up either. Quoted: @SCW what gears do you have? what MPGs are you getting in that beast? View Quote 3.55 rear end, Godzilla with 10 speed trans. Love it. The longer I own it the happier I am with the decision to go back to big-block gas. Loaded it gets deep into the single digits, but I live pretty high up so all my driving is in the mountains. Unloaded I can get over 15 if I'm driving nice and going slow, normally I'm close to 14mpg. Even has 2/3 working mirrors! |
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Quoted: sometimes, yeah. Do you even small town, bro? View Quote Born and raised, and still living in one. Doesn’t mean I just eat $1400 when someone breaks something of mine, and if I broke someone’s $1400 part, I wouldn’t even hesitate to replace it for them. $1400 is not a trivial amount of money. |
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How did the tire company wreck your mirror by changing tires?
I know because the only time I ever went to an oil change place the oil change guy could not read the book to find my oil filter. No fucking clue. |
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replace the lens for $140
eta....man those are expensive mirrors....looks like lots of LH out there....guess the RH gets damaged more often. Do they fold forward and backward? |
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Quoted: Somewhere between these two I think. I was really hoping it wasn't cracked enough to let water in, but.. It's not like I'm going to be happy with a bunch of glue or calk sealing it up either. 3.55 rear end, Godzilla with 10 speed trans. Love it. The longer I own it the happier I am with the decision to go back to big-block gas. Loaded it gets deep into the single digits, but I live pretty high up so all my driving is in the mountains. Unloaded I can get over 15 if I'm driving nice and going slow, normally I'm close to 14mpg. Even has 2/3 working mirrors! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Id want that replaced and would not care how much it cost them. Quoted: That ain't too bad. I wouldn't replace it, just drive it. Like you said, it's a work truck. Somewhere between these two I think. I was really hoping it wasn't cracked enough to let water in, but.. It's not like I'm going to be happy with a bunch of glue or calk sealing it up either. Quoted: @SCW what gears do you have? what MPGs are you getting in that beast? 3.55 rear end, Godzilla with 10 speed trans. Love it. The longer I own it the happier I am with the decision to go back to big-block gas. Loaded it gets deep into the single digits, but I live pretty high up so all my driving is in the mountains. Unloaded I can get over 15 if I'm driving nice and going slow, normally I'm close to 14mpg. Even has 2/3 working mirrors! To be fair.. i would not care if it was an aftermarket part as long as it matched and id even replace that my self to save them on labor.. But id want the part. 1400 for a side mirrors seems a bit high IMHO. I would not be a jerk about it but if i went into their shop and fucked up 1400 bucks in rubber they would make me pay for them. |
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Check car-part.com to see if you can find a decent one from a yard.
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Quoted: Here's the pics, it's a bit worse than I was hoping. I'll look around for an aftermarket shell, maybe it's easy to put the existing motors and sensors into a new shell? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/E51D3079-20CC-451F-99B7-83A2FA55C56D_jpe-1981631.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/308830F7-62C3-4EE7-8BEA-E9D772788BC8_jpe-1981632.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122594/FF7130BA-D202-4CD3-BF1D-6BD334E9B353_jpe-1981633.JPG View Quote |
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Wait, nobody has said "Lawyer Up! "? Is this GD? Did I open the wrong app?
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Quoted: If that is an interference motor they may be better off buying you a mirror View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes I'm pretty sure Hondas tend to be interference motors, but it sounds like the crank pulley worked its way off the harmonic balancer and only affected the accessory drive belt. The timing belt shouldn't have anything to do with that particular pulley. Quoted: Somewhere between these two I think. I was really hoping it wasn't cracked enough to let water in, but.. It's not like I'm going to be happy with a bunch of glue or calk sealing it up either. 3.55 rear end, Godzilla with 10 speed trans. Love it. The longer I own it the happier I am with the decision to go back to big-block gas. Loaded it gets deep into the single digits, but I live pretty high up so all my driving is in the mountains. Unloaded I can get over 15 if I'm driving nice and going slow, normally I'm close to 14mpg. Even has 2/3 working mirrors! Mirrors don't tend to be water-tight anyway. There's a gasket where the mirror meets the door, but water gets inside mirror housings all the time. Hell, I make a point of spraying water between the mirror glass and mirror housing when I wash my cars. Gotta evict the spiders somehow Edit: did they say what they hit it on? My money is on the lift post. Super Duties with tow mirrors are a tight fit in most 2-post lifts |
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