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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Lol! Cuomo squirming at release of jailed NYC villains w Bail reform (Page 1 of 2)

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:30:40 PM EDT

Thank God I live in the sticks (although even here we are starting to have robberies and more shop lifting in town)

Anyway NY Post has a list of super villains being released from NYC jails because of bail reform. Cuomo "no idea what you're talking about"

https://nypost.com/2019/11/05/why-new-bail-reform-law-has-new-york-law-enforcement-worried/

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:34:12 PM EDT

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Actually not sure why some of those guys are being cut loose.

And boo hoo about DA's. Not being able to sit on discovery until your watching jurors come into the building. They're already starting to give up and give me stuff I never would have gotten right away before, heh heh.

The bail stuff is awful though

edit court can't impose bail anymore except on violent felonies and misdemeanors for witness tampering and violating and order or protection. In case anyone was wondering what this was about.

prosecutors also have to turn over evidence earlier now

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:37:59 PM EDT

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How was that ever legal?

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:55:14 PM EDT

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I am absolutely convinced that liberalism is a mental disorder. I honestly can't follow how these people think.

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:57:25 PM EDT

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Feds were doing this with Flynn...slow turnover.

Posted: 11/6/2019 2:59:00 PM EDT

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Giving their voting base a reward for voting them in

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:14:35 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/6/2019 3:16:24 PM EDT

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Actually not sure why some of those guys are being cut loose.

And boo hoo about DA's. Not being able to sit on discovery until your watching jurors come into the building. They're already starting to give up and give me stuff I never would have gotten right away before, heh heh.

The bail stuff is awful though

edit court can't impose bail anymore except on violent felonies and misdemeanors for witness tampering and violating and order or protection. In case anyone was wondering what this was about.

prosecutors also have to turn over evidence earlier now

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**you're**

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:17:13 PM EDT

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Every last one of them should be in an asylum

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:18:29 PM EDT

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Isn’t this the beginning of every Batman movie?

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:23:17 PM EDT

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Man who killed bystander in police chase could not be held in jail under new law.
https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/recent-tragedy-sparks-criticism-of-new-yorks-bail-reform-plans

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:25:17 PM EDT

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Escape from NY

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:30:42 PM EDT

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This isn't all bad news. I would assume it would make criminals want to stay in NY.

Gotta find that silver lining.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:33:40 PM EDT

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Enjoy your holiday raping and murdering thanks to Diblasio and Cuomo NYC!

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:36:09 PM EDT

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After a criminal runs someone over in a police chase and gets let go with a ticket

they aren't going to hang around, they'll head to Florida.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:36:48 PM EDT

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I thought that when I first heard about this.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:36:57 PM EDT

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Really in the USA you did not get all the available evidence like 6 months ahead of trial?

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:38:46 PM EDT

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Escape from NY

Can you dig it?

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:40:59 PM EDT

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New law
https://www.courtinnovation.org/sites/default/files/media/document/2019/Discovery-NYS_Full.pdf

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:41:50 PM EDT

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fuck that guinea cocksucker

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:42:12 PM EDT

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This fucking state never ceases to amaze and disappoint me.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:43:54 PM EDT

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Sounds like there won’t be any “unintended” consequences. Nope. No-sir-ee-bob. No way.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:44:41 PM EDT

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NY has been one of the worst states in the US, prosecutors would claim that "witnesses were at risk"

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2017/08/07/undiscovered

Not just trials, I'd walk into hearings and get handed evidence packets, like the criminal record of prosecution witnesses, as I was sitting down to start. And that's on people they were calling. I've known of cases where all the witnesses who weren't called are felons but had no proof beyond what I uncovered.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:47:45 PM EDT

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After a criminal runs someone over in a police chase and gets let go with a ticket

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This isn't all bad news. I would assume it would make criminals want to stay in NY.

Gotta find that silver lining.

After a criminal runs someone over in a police chase and gets let go with a ticket

they aren't going to hang around, they'll head to Florida.

Nah, they know whats up, just like homeless in Austin and Portland.

Then again, Florida does have a NYC problem.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:50:38 PM EDT

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Then again, Florida does have a NYC problem.

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Don't worry, you're safe. Criminals in NY flee to
1-Florida (way far away leader)
2-California
3-Colorado

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:51:14 PM EDT

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Um its New York, they dont have to abide by the law, only the lowly Serfs do.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:55:06 PM EDT

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They think just like you, only in the exact opposite direction.

For example: Normal people see a child molester and want him/her as far away from children as possible. Liberals see a child molester, and say "just because bill clinton flew to epstien's island doesn't mean he and epstein were child molesters, and clearly this is Trump's fault for causing the fires in california with his climate change machine.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:58:50 PM EDT

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Not being able to sit on discovery until your watching jurors come into the building.

How was that ever legal?

Yeah, I'd like the bird to explain this one a bit further.

Posted: 11/6/2019 3:59:57 PM EDT

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The Dark Knight Rises - Bane Blackgate Prison Speech (HD) IMAX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzK97Aaj_U8

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:04:48 PM EDT

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Man who killed bystander in police chase could not be held in jail under new law.
https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/recent-tragedy-sparks-criticism-of-new-yorks-bail-reform-plans

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"He also says enforcing appearance tickets could fall on sheriff's offices and police departments."

Yeah, they told us the same with our bail reform.

We laughed and said "Good luck with that"

We didn't.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:04:50 PM EDT

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DA: "Oh we weren't withholding it your honor. We would have shared it immediately but we just got it this morning. I hope the defense is not insinuating we would have purposely withheld the game camera videotape of the defendant committing the crime, stealing Halloween candy from a child, pissing on a dog, keying the judge's wife's Lexus, throwing the stolen weapons off the bridge, feeding crack to a handicapped person, and then laughing about it."

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:06:56 PM EDT

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lol, they wanted it and now they get it good and hard.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:13:33 PM EDT

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They can not think, yet still manage to keep breathing and breeding.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:16:08 PM EDT

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Actually not sure why some of those guys are being cut loose.

And boo hoo about DA's. Not being able to sit on discovery until your watching jurors come into the building. They're already starting to give up and give me stuff I never would have gotten right away before, heh heh.

The bail stuff is awful though

edit court can't impose bail anymore except on violent felonies and misdemeanors for witness tampering and violating and order or protection. In case anyone was wondering what this was about.

prosecutors also have to turn over evidence earlier now

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When this happened here, the crime rate went through the roof. Good luck.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:16:35 PM EDT

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Mayor Bill de Blasio’s plans to offer the accused free baseball tickets, movie passes and gift cards to get them to return for court may look naïve — as one Manhattan Criminal Court senior staffer aptly put it: “You’re literally rewarding them for committing a crime.” But rewarding criminals fits perfectly with the new law.

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Posted: 11/6/2019 4:17:26 PM EDT

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Lots of jurisdictions fuck around with discovery.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:17:42 PM EDT

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"He also says enforcing appearance tickets could fall on sheriff's offices and police departments."

Yeah, they told us the same with our bail reform.

We laughed and said "Good luck with that"

We didn't.

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Man who killed bystander in police chase could not be held in jail under new law.
https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/recent-tragedy-sparks-criticism-of-new-yorks-bail-reform-plans

"He also says enforcing appearance tickets could fall on sheriff's offices and police departments."

Yeah, they told us the same with our bail reform.

We laughed and said "Good luck with that"

We didn't.

So what does a Sheriff or PD do when a warrant is issued? Just laugh and don't bother trying to find anyone?

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:18:29 PM EDT

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LOL

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:18:46 PM EDT

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Not being able to sit on discovery until your watching jurors come into the building.

How was that ever legal?

Yeah, I'd like the bird to explain this one a bit further.

There's been a ton of articles about NY DAs refusing or slow rolling discovery

Granted most of the articles have been from BLM types so they don't get much play in conservative , police , and gun culture circles

https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/opinion/new-york-imbalanced-discovery-law-day.html

The Blindfold Law allows prosecutors to withhold police reports and other vital information from the defense team until the day a trial begins. Under current law, the Manhattan District Attorney’s office is even allowed to deny you the right to know who is accusing you of a crime. New York is one of only four states in the country that operates this way. It’s time to make our courts more efficient and fair.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:20:48 PM EDT

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They’re only releasing 900? That’s not enough to be very concerned about. I would commute the sentences of the entire prison population and get myself a bunch more voters.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:23:05 PM EDT

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We have a similar law here. If the DA can't come up with their case in 12 days the case gets dropped. We have tons of people using the jail as a merry go round.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:25:01 PM EDT

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That escalated quickly.

clown world.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:25:17 PM EDT

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3-Colorado

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Nah, they know whats up, just like homeless in Austin and Portland.

Then again, Florida does have a NYC problem.

Don't worry, you're safe. Criminals in NY flee to
1-Florida (way far away leader)
2-California
3-Colorado

And, depending on which county they land in, they can be in a very different world when they get to Florida. Some have ended up on the Gulf Coast or central Florida and learned that Law Enforcement, Judges and Juries don't play nice with other states' refuse. OF course, if they don't speed, don't get in fights or get caught with drugs, and manage to avoid being shot by an angry homeowner at 3 AM, it is somewhat easy to "go to ground" over here

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:25:33 PM EDT

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Sure, Ny had pretty limited statutory requirements on what the prosecution had to disclose and when. http://ypdcrime.com/cpl/article240.htm#c240.20

I pulled out a criminal procedure book from a couple of years ago: The people are under no obligation to open their files to the defense Discovery in criminal cases cannot be ordered beyond what is allowable by statute, example there is no requirement for disclosing the identities of witnesses, where a witness came to the prosecution's attention during trial the prosecution was entitled to call the witness.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:26:15 PM EDT

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Prison reform yo

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:26:39 PM EDT

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Remember to not give Bane an appearance ticket until your paperwork is done as the issuance of the ticket starts the clock on mandatory discovery.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:27:25 PM EDT

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So your shit sack of a governor did good then. Criminals go elsewhere to be elsewhere's problem to collect, some nobody is mad his peasant wife's murder didn't go to trial, but who cares? He's little people.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:28:11 PM EDT

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They're only releasing 900? That's not enough to be very concerned about. I would commute the sentences of the entire prison population and get myself a bunch more voters.

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They're threatening to let inmates vote in the county where they are housed in prison. Inmates will be able to elect inmates to judge and sheriff positions in rural counties that have huge jails

Anything to cement NYC's current hold on power.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:30:48 PM EDT

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So your shit sack of a governor did good then. Criminals go elsewhere to be elsewhere's problem to collect, some nobody is mad his peasant wife's murder didn't go to trial, but who cares? He's little people.

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Problem solved! NYC is already moving their bums to other states, they rent a bum an apartment in another state for a year and then buy them a bus ticket. Bye!

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:32:12 PM EDT

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Sure, Ny had pretty limited statutory requirements on what the prosecution had to disclose and when. http://ypdcrime.com/cpl/article240.htm#c240.20

I pulled out a criminal procedure book from a couple of years ago: The people are under no obligation to open their files to the defense Discovery in criminal cases cannot be ordered beyond what is allowable by statute, example there is no requirement for disclosing the identities of witnesses, where a witness came to the prosecution's attention during trial the prosecution was entitled to call the witness.

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Yeah, I'd like the bird to explain this one a bit further.

Sure, Ny had pretty limited statutory requirements on what the prosecution had to disclose and when. http://ypdcrime.com/cpl/article240.htm#c240.20

I pulled out a criminal procedure book from a couple of years ago: The people are under no obligation to open their files to the defense Discovery in criminal cases cannot be ordered beyond what is allowable by statute, example there is no requirement for disclosing the identities of witnesses, where a witness came to the prosecution's attention during trial the prosecution was entitled to call the witness.

Except that failure to disclose certain discoverable material is a due process violation per Brady & Giglio. That’s not a statutory issue but a constitutional issue and it’s mandated to be turned over even absent of a statutory requirement. I don’t understand why prosecutors don’t just have an open file policy with the exception of certain CI related issues which is different.

Posted: 11/6/2019 4:32:31 PM EDT

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They're threatening to let inmates vote in the county where they are housed in prison. Inmates will be able to elect inmates to judge and sheriff positions in rural counties that have huge jails

Anything to cement NYC's current hold on power.

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