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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw one where an auditor (Amagansset Press - who I do not like to watch; he's kind of obnoxious at times) asked a police officer which government agency do you go to for a "press credential" after the officer demanded to see his (which they always do in these videos). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass  That would be HR at the reporters news agency |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:58:43 PM EDT
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Freedom is meaningless if not exercised.
I applaud him for his efforts. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:59:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, he's a fucking piece of shit. All Fruaditors are scum. 
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Posted: 6/1/2023 9:59:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other citizens conducting private business with the police have the right to privacy and confidentiality. He walked in and began recording what appeared to be a non police officer speaking with a police officer. My former department had signs posted in the lobbies advising auditors of this fact. If they refused to stop recording other people conducting this personal business, they would be removed or subject to arrest. Other than that, film the lobby all day long. Of course if you put a fucking sign somewhere it obviously overrules the fucking Constitution and the fucking Supreme Court. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Freelance journalists not journalists then? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be HR at the reporters news agency Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass  He actually told the cop, "I have my own business, I suppose I could print up my own credentials." |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lotta bootlickers up in here. It's mostly LEOs on here. They don't believe they have to follow the same laws as us peons. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:00:47 PM EDT
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Just enjoying the boot lickers outting themselves. I bet they think they're the "Adults in charge" and everyone else is a child as well.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, he's a fucking piece of shit. All Fruaditors are scum. So you are a cop that doesn't follow the law. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other citizens conducting private business with the police have the right to privacy and confidentiality. He walked in and began recording what appeared to be a non police officer speaking with a police officer. My former department had signs posted in the lobbies advising auditors of this fact. If they refused to stop recording other people conducting this personal business, they would be removed or subject to arrest. Other than that, film the lobby all day long. Perhaps sensitive conversations should be taken to the back, not a lobby where anyone can overhear details? Pretty sure a court would make a similar point about the privacy of a conversation in what amounts to a public space. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freelance journalists not journalists then? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Freelance journalists not journalists then? If published (paid) by a news agency, yes. Some random with a YouTube channel, no |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:05:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Journalist my ass Do they have to work for CNN for them to be legit? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If published (paid) by a news agency, yes. Some random with a YouTube channel, no Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Freelance journalists not journalists then? If published (paid) by a news agency, yes. Some random with a YouTube channel, no I'm 100% sure I just watched a published video by the guy filming and he is getting paid |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:05:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The US Supreme Court essentially said anything you can legally see with your eyes in public, you can legally record. I'm sure someone here can state it more accurately. Katz v. US |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:06:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If published (paid) by a news agency, yes. Some random with a YouTube channel, no |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:06:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they have to work for CNN for them to be legit? Even if employed by CNN they are no longer journalists if they do opinion and entertainment instead of news. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other citizens conducting private business with the police have the right to privacy and confidentiality. He walked in and began recording what appeared to be a non police officer speaking with a police officer. My former department had signs posted in the lobbies advising auditors of this fact. If they refused to stop recording other people conducting this personal business, they would be removed or subject to arrest. Other than that, film the lobby all day long. You have a SIGN? Does your sign overrule the Supreme Court? Can I make a sign that supersedes the Supreme Court? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm 100% sure I just watched a published video by the guy filming and he is getting paid Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Freelance journalists not journalists then? If published (paid) by a news agency, yes. Some random with a YouTube channel, no I'm 100% sure I just watched a published video by the guy filming and he is getting paid  |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if employed by CNN they are no longer journalists if they do opinion and entertainment instead of news. You sure draw a hard fucking line in the sand on this. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:08:39 PM EDT
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https://gothamist.com/news/how-legal-is-it-to-film-the-nypd-an-activist-tests-the-system-online-and-in-court
article regarding filmer guy who appears to be 100% right |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. What is this? 1950? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:10:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, he's a fucking piece of shit. All Fruaditors are scum. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which of those two does documenting government employees interacting with citizens fall under? You sure draw a hard fucking line in the sand on this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even if employed by CNN they are no longer journalists if they do opinion and entertainment instead of news. You sure draw a hard fucking line in the sand on this. I do. YouTube is entertainment, not journalism. Even if you start out as a serious journalist, the moment you become a talking head spouting opinion you are not longer a journalist. You’re a pundit or entertainer that stomped all over your journalism degree. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:11:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is this? 1950? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. What is this? 1950? A better more civilized time |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:12:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, he's a fucking piece of shit. All Fruaditors are scum. Kinda like LEOs, right? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For people who don’t get it watch this video of how his encounters go when someone is polite.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRQAtiYBjAEVery cool. A public servant who enjoys, respects and shares. Good people right there... |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:12:31 PM EDT
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This thread brought out a certain group as bad as the Uvalde thread. They're just as wrong this time too.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:12:41 PM EDT
[#29]
Shocked at the anti-freedom folks on here.
Everyone wants to be a freedom fighter until it’s time to do some freedom fighting shit. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:13:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better more civilized time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. What is this? 1950? A better more civilized time What news organizations where Ben Franklin and Thomas Paine employed by? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:14:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's mostly LEOs on here. They don't believe they have to follow the same laws as us peons. The Laws of Physics, as they're susceptible to high-velocity impacts too. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:15:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he enter a non public area? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just enjoying the boot lickers outting themselves. I bet they think they're the "Adults in charge" and everyone else is a child as well. Dunning-Kruger and the inflated sense of self-importance. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:16:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You tell me. We watched the same video. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did he enter a non public area? Watched the video. 
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:17:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You tell me. We watched the same video. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did he enter a non public area? I don’t watch YouTube videos posted here. Particularly so if they are posted by someone other than the video owner. That’s why I asked. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:19:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread brought out a certain group as bad as the Uvalde thread. They're just as wrong this time too. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:21:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t watch YouTube videos posted here. Particularly so if they are posted by someone other than the video owner. That’s why I asked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did he enter a non public area? I don’t watch YouTube videos posted here. Particularly so if they are posted by someone other than the video owner. That’s why I asked. I guess since none of the Founding Fathers bothered to post the Constitution or Bill of Rights on here you've never bothered to read those either? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:21:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't watch YouTube videos posted here. Particularly so if they are posted by someone other than the video owner. That's why I asked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did he enter a non public area? I don't watch YouTube videos posted here. Particularly so if they are posted by someone other than the video owner. That's why I asked. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do. YouTube is entertainment, not journalism. Even if you start out as a serious journalist, the moment you become a talking head spouting opinion you are not longer a journalist. You're a pundit or entertainer that stomped all over your journalism degree. Right?  If the general public has a right to use public facilities, why shouldn't a youtube entertainer/influencer/documenter/journalist have those same rights? Does entertaining take somehow forsake those rights? The whole point of these things is to get the police to stop enforcing laws that they make up on the spot, and then fit a narrative around it to justify an arrest. "Show me your idea" "obstructing official police business" "failure to obey a lawful order" and on and on. Would Andy Griffith have arrested for these things? |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:26:53 PM EDT
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How about this cop who trespassed him out of a library, and then said "If this were twenty years ago he'd be leaving here without any teeth. If this were twenty years ago, he'd be dead"? LIA got this after he FOIA'd the bodycam footage. Thank goodness he is exposing these terrible officers.
 Cop Forgets BodyCam Is Rolling - Gets Caught |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:27:23 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Journalist my ass 
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Other citizens conducting private business with the police have the right to privacy and confidentiality. He walked in and began recording what appeared to be a non police officer speaking with a police officer. My former department had signs posted in the lobbies advising auditors of this fact. If they refused to stop recording other people conducting this personal business, they would be removed or subject to arrest. Other than that, film the lobby all day long. If that right there is not a "pick up that can" attitude you won't find one. As others have stated: no expectation to privacy in any public space, po leece lobbies included. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lotta bootlickers up in here. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. Pretty cool that everyone can look it up. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalist |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A better more civilized time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Journalist my ass Define journalist. A person employed by a news organization to report without editorializing. Pretty rare thing today. Tucker Carlson is not a journalist for example. His show was opinion and entertainment not journalism. What is this? 1950? A better more civilized time Photo of that. https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/1096F0 |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:49:03 PM EDT
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This is why I laugh when I see cops claim they wouldn’t enforce or participate in a gun confiscation.
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:50:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How about this cop who trespassed him out of a library, and then said "If this were twenty years ago he'd be leaving here without any teeth. If this were twenty years ago, he'd be dead"? LIA got this after he FOIA'd the bodycam footage. Thank goodness he is exposing these terrible officers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vslo5hrpzBoThere sure are a lot of cameras on the ceiling in that library. I guess only one side wants to have complete control of any information. That is the issue in a nutshell. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 10:52:21 PM EDT
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Policy is Not LAW!
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