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or no jet fuel at all in building 7's case.

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Building 7 sure was suspect. Just perfectly falling into its own footprint hours after everything else went down. I’ve seen many videos of buildings intentionally being pulled that do not come down that clean. The odds of building 7 coming down like it did due to the other buildings is about as good as winning the lottery — very likely less so.

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sure, just throw some shade.  

>>The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) released a report in August 2008, stating that the collapse of Building 7 was no longer a mystery.  According to their findings, the building succumbed to the intense heat of fires ignited by debris from the nearby North Tower collapse.

this was caused by a fire in a steel building?  why would anyone question that.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mamvq7LWqRU

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Building 7 sure was suspect. Just perfectly falling into its own footprint hours after everything else went down. I’ve seen many videos of buildings intentionally being pulled that do not come down that clean. The odds of building 7 coming down like it did due to the other buildings is about as good as winning the lottery — very likely less so.

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you guys would have better luck if you went back to pinning flat earthers on Q.  and you could work on putting some daylight between yourselves and just about every trope the leftist media has to say about trump and q, but then again you're NTs.

the only posts that mention jews:

https://qalerts.app/?n=526

https://qalerts.app/?n=1945

Define 'Treason'.
[Fiction][Sample]
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/americans-have-forgotten-what-treason-actually-means-how-it-can-ncna848651
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/jul/23/treason-trumps-actions-russian-putin-meeting/
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-heffernan-treason-20180804-story.html
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/did-trump-commit-treason-bill-maher-and-john-brennan-agree-he-has-1.6413926
https://www.newsweek.com/bill-maher-calls-trump-traitor-conversation-former-cia-director-john-brennan-1090821
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/15/opinion/trump-russia-investigation-putin.html
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-trump-treasonous-heres-the-legal-and-historical-answer-to-that-charge-2018-07-17
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-treason/2017/02/17/8b9eb3a8-f460-11e6-a9b0-ecee7ce475fc_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f082167f9992
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/18/readers-panel-us-voters-react-to-trumps-conference-with-putin
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/shortcuts/2018/jul/17/are-donald-trump-and-theresa-may-really-committing-treason
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-trump-treason-oath-of-office-0720-20180719-story.html
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/16/some-dare-call-it-treason-219014
https://www.wsj.com/articles/treason-trustand-trump-1534803727
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/18/treason-trump-benedict-arnold-legal-definition-widespread-political-application/792598002/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/990334/Donald-Trump-Vladimir-Putin-visit-Helsinki-summit-treason-USA-law
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-putin-treason-searches_us_5b4d1330e4b0de86f485ada1
Define 'Projection'.
What is the penalty for treason?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/
Q

https://qalerts.app/?n=2386

Ask yourself a very simple question.
Why is the FAKE NEWS media continually expending resources to defame, debunk, and cast as a conspiracy, for, as they say, a nobody who started on 4chan?
Why did the FAKE NEWS media attempt to cast blame of recent events on the 'Q' movement?
Was it an attempt to silence?
[Sample Past 7-Days]
https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-republican-congressional-candidate-promotes-conspiracy-theory-1195615
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/qanon-anniversary-movement/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46073979
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/10/30/nevada-gop-backed-congressional-candidate-promotes-qanon-video/221930
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/guess-what-trump-can-totally-rewrite-the-constitution/2018/10/31/d707a2c6-dd4f-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html?utm_term=.36fccdcbc1a7
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/10/26/were-all-part-of-the-right-wing-conspiracy-theory-machine/?utm_term=.46acaa18a78f
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/business/false-flag-theory-bombs-conservative-media.html
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/28/robert-bowers-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-suspec/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/01/trump-rallies-america-midterms-white-house
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/3kmxdv/kicking-gab-off-the-internet-wont-kill-online-extremism-it-may-make-it-worse
https://www.yahoo.com/news/robert-bowers-alleged-pittsburgh-synagogue-gunman-left-trail-chilling-anti-semitic-social-media-posts-183646761.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46003665
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/10/howie_carr_zip_your_lips_don_t_blame_trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/27/pittsburgh-shooting-suspect-antisemitism
https://www.newsweek.com/gab-collusion-big-tech-app-trump-shooter-bowers-free-speech-anti-semitic-1190903
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-screw-your-optics-i-m-going-in-who-is-the-suspected-pittsburgh-shooter-1.6595724
https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-online-attacks-on-jews-ramp-up-before-election-day/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hoaxes-hate-speech-find-home-on-instagram/ar-BBPfsXl
https://www.businessinsider.com/ap-study-online-attacks-on-jews-ramp-up-before-election-day-2018-10
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/26/cesar-sayoc-bomb-suspect-trump/
https://worldisraelnews.com/synagogue-shooter-spewed-online-hate-for-jews/
https://www.examiner.org/newsx/ap-news/103396-loved-ones-remember-legacies-of-synagogue-shooting-victims
https://www.inquisitr.com/5135679/trump-says-outcome-of-pittsburgh-shooting-would-have-been-different-if-synagogue-had-armed-guard/
https://conservativedailypost.com/synagogue-shooters-profile-reveals-massive-anti-semitic-anti-trump-sentiment/
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2018/10/living-age-political-paranoia/
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/2018/10/synagogue_massacre_suspect_posted_i_m_going_in
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingtomatthew/2018/10/christian-nationalist-identified-as-pittsburgh-synagogue-shooter/
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/robert-bowers-social-media-rob-gab/
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/robert-bowers-alleged-pittsburgh-synagogue-gunman-left-trail-chilling-anti-semitic-social-media-posts-183646761.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pittsburgh-shooter-could-become-the-second-american-to-face-death-for-a-federal-hate-crime/ar-BBP4Mwy
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooter-gab-robert-bowers-final-posts-online-comments-a8605721.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-bowers-synagogue-shooter-hate-crime_us_5bd4892be4b0a8f17ef84019
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-pittsburgh-the-jews-and-anti-semitism-a-dangerous-double-game-1.6601063
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/taibbi-conspiracy-qanon-trump-750486/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-suspect-identified-as-robert-bowers-what-we-know-2018-10-27/
https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/10/27/who-is-robert-bowers-pittsburgh-gunman-shooter/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooter-spewed-his-hate-on-gab-the-alt-rights-favorite-social-network?source=articles&via=rss&yptr=yahoo
https://www.thedailybeast.com/of-course-donald-trump-inspired-cesar-sayocs-terrorism?via=desktop&source=Reddit
ALL FOR A LARP?
[ATTACK THOSE WHO THREATEN YOU THE MOST]
Are we subject to the Hatch Act?
Think Executive Branch / NSA / etc.
Acceptable 'turn on' comms?
[Filter applied - legal analysis]
Cannot point to any particular candidate or party prior to Nov 7?
We, the PEOPLE.
Fight, Fight, Fight!
YOUR VOTE MATTERS!
WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER!
THIS MOVEMENT HAS NO SKIN COLOR.
Attempts to label all those who challenge their narrative as 'racists' 'white supremacists' will fail [predictable].
Q

https://qalerts.app/?n=4635

History repeats itself (today).
RE: IRREGULAR WARFARE
RE: TACTICS DEPLOYED v AMERICA
Compare & Contrast
Then v Now
https://www.britannica.com/topic/SA-Nazi-organization
Then: methods of violent intimidation deployed by SA
Now: methods of violent intimidation deployed by Antifa?
Then: battles raged in the streets [book burning, flag burning, destruction, hate, anti-police, etc]
Now: battles raging in the streets controlled by [D] party sympathizers [anti-republic]?
Then: physical assaults of political opponents
Now: physical assaults of political opponents?
Then: voter intimidation in National and local elections
Now: voter intimidation in National and local elections [coming 11.3]?
Then: project anti-fascist platform: reality: conform/obey strong-arm tactics deployed to silence opposing views
Now: project anti-fascist platform: reality: conform/obey strong-arm tactics deployed to silence opposing views?
Then: radical anti-capitalistic platform (socialism)
Now: radical anti-capitalistic platform (socialism) push?
Then: force economic destruction as recruiting [division] tactic to drive enlistment rate
Now: [D] party gov/mayor(s) close state(s) force economic hardships [C19]?
Then: SA carried out unchecked street violence against Jews and Nazi opponents
Now: [D] gov/mayor(s) carried out unchecked [deliberate non_prosecution orders 24-hour release] of Antifa rioters arrested [street violence – block-by-block takeover(s)]?
[D] gov/mayor(s) release of violent criminals [many thousands] from prison(s) under guise of C19?
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-propaganda
Use of propaganda by Nazi Germany
Use of propaganda by MSDNC / Social Media (control of narrative – terminate opposing message (censorship-kill))
Soros history
Assault on America.
Ask yourself, why are [D] party leaders refusing to condemn the violence?
Ask yourself, why are [D] party leaders refusing to seek a unified republic?
IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE VIRUS AND ALWAYS ABOUT THE ELECTION
Was the Nazi party ever truly destroyed (eradicated)?
Did the belief carry-on [re-deployed]?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzp2rpe06j8
Background of Soros?
Q

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I'm not saying it wasn't damaged. I'm just saying that it fell perfectly into its own footprint. Think of all the engineering involved and precise placement of explosives that are required to bring a tall building down. Even with all this planning, there are times when the building doesn't come down like intended, so for a building to come down in a fashion like that due to damage from other buildings is highly unlikely.

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WTC1 and 2 fell pretty vertically compared to the damage they received. Those buildings were designed to fail into themselves like that. Once one floor lets loose they will pancake. It's not a lego tower.

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READY TO ROCK!!!\uD83D\uDE0E\uD83E\uDD73\uD83E\uDD73\uD83E\uDD73 #UFC296 pic.twitter.com/vWONnjvsnQ

il Donaldo Trumpo  (@PapiTrumpo) December 15, 2023

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sure, just throw some shade.  

>>The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) released a report in August 2008, stating that the collapse of Building 7 was no longer a mystery.  According to their findings, the building succumbed to the intense heat of fires ignited by debris from the nearby North Tower collapse.

this was caused by a fire in a steel building?  why would anyone question that.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mamvq7LWqRU

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9/11 truthers, we get all the fucking crazies. Now all we need are a few flat-earthers and SovCits and the moon landing was faked, and it'll be a party.

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So if it was that easy why didn't the magical secret squirrel thermite special forces demo guys just do that then? lol. All the fucktard truthers use the floors pancaking in the vids to say those are all demo charges blowing the whole way down lol.

The second tower hit fell before the first because it was hit lower and had more weight on it against the failing structural support members accelerating the collapse sequence.

Also my statement is not logic, it's fact.

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I have full faith the FBI was telling the truth 100% as always.

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the good guys and the people winning is the plan.  trump winning is probably part of that, but the white hats have thrown lots of curve balls.  let's see what happens.

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suddenly you don't want to talk about the engineering aspects?

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Sweet you've learned how to copy and paste.

Why would those buildings have been demo'd? Who put the demo there? And when?

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I have and you fuckwits keep going back to it being taken down by demolitions or some other fucktardery.

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I have and you fuckwits keep going back to it being taken down by demolitions or some other fucktardery.

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show me where i said that.  

or talk about this:

>>"From an engineering perspective it is imperative to understand how and why this building came down under design load conditions," said Walter.

The study says NIST made some fundamental errors in how engineers estimated the rigidity of the outside building frame and that the heat generated by the fire did not trigger "thermal movements" at a critical base plate support.

Further, the group, which includes families of those killed, asserts that the investigation is flawed and that the conclusions as to what happened must be based on "science and engineering" and accept that controlled demolition is a plausible cause.

For expediency and because it was not hit by a plane, the study looked only at WTC 7 not the other two but AE911T has long claimed all three were subject to something beyond heat induced failure.

"The report notes that the outside frame was more flexible than the inside framing which is where the elevator shafts were," says McMaster University professor emeritus of civil engineering, Robert Korol, a fellow of the Canadian Society of Civil Engineering who is also one of two peers who reviewed the UAF study.

"Under the conditions described, the displacement of the outside steel would have been only one inch, not the 6.25 NIST claimed and not enough to cause failure."

Further, he says, the debris from WTC 1 which fell 943 feet to WTC 7 did not attain sufficient mass to cause structural damage to the steel in that building.

The bottom line, he says, is that the NIST report is flawed and of no value to future engineering or architectural learning.

The Alaska report adds new momentum to long standing claims by the AE911T that all three of the buildings should not have collapsed in the spectacular and deadly manner they did. Further, and Korol underlines this, there was nothing in the offices beyond basic desks, chairs, computers and paper that would be of such a combustible nature so as to feed a fire and raise the temperature to above 1,400 degrees Celsius and melt the steel structure.

"We don't even know if the steel was fireproofed," says Korol.

The group makes no assertion as to why it may have been a "controlled demolition" and says its only interest is in ensuring that there's no need to rethink the structural steel design of highrises because the design was not at fault.

UAF civil engineering professor Leroy Hulsey, principal investigator, his research assistants, Feng Xiao, now an associate professor at Nanjing University of Science and Technology and Zhili Quan, now a bridge engineer for the South Carolina Department of Transportation, found that the design standard of the building was not exceeded by the fire and that simultaneous and controlled demolition caused the structural steel to fail.

"Fires could not have caused weakening of displacement of structural members capable of initiating any of the hypothetical local failures alleged to have triggered the total collapse of the building," the report states. "Nor could any local failures, even if they had occurred, have triggered a sequence of failures that would have resulted in the observed total collapse."

The NIST report held that lateral support beams buckled because of thermal expansion from the fire and because they had "nowhere to go" and thus deformed and weakened the structural integrity. Other failures were triggered when joists and beams "walked off" their connections, NIST found.

It was also the first NIST finding of a highrise collapse from thermal deformation caused by fire which the 125-page Alaska report disputes.

It presents arguments showing it was a simultaneous global failure not a localized failure causing a domino effect.

Hulsey et al argue that the collapse was straight down in a pancake fashion with about 2.25 to 2.5 seconds for free fall acceleration.

"In a typical building collapse (given a localized structural steel failure) WTC 7 would be expected to experience a combination of axial rotation and bending of members, resulting in a disjointed, asymmetrical collapse at less than free-fall acceleration," the report states.

The study team undertook extensive computer and physical modelling, paying particular attention to the area around Column 79 which had been identified as the critical juncture of failure.

Their conclusion is that Columns 79, 80, and 81 did not fail at the lower floors of the building and were not subjected to heat above floor 30 because there were no fires there.

Even if they did, they would not trigger a horizontal progression of core column failures and the team was unable to find any other plausible cause for the progressive sequence of failures.

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i know it's offensive to suggest but actual science isn't something that's contorted to fit a narrative.  why can't NIST or any of the establishment enthusiasts address the specifics of steel thickness, lack of column contortions and fire locations?

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9/11 truthers, we get all the fucking crazies. Now all we need are a few flat-earthers and SovCits and the moon landing was faked, and it'll be a party.

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I have full faith the FBI was telling the truth 100% as always.

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did i make it in before the lock?

ETA




https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ana-Peraica/publication/339886861/figure/fig3/AS:11431281085850911@1663933468992/Flat-Earth-internet-meme.png

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I’m not saying it wasn’t damaged. I’m just saying that it fell perfectly into its own footprint. Think of all the engineering involved and precise placement of explosives that are required to bring a tall building down. Even with all this planning, there are times when the building doesn’t come down like intended, so for a building to come down in a fashion like that due to damage from other buildings is highly unlikely.

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>>“From an engineering perspective it is imperative to understand how and why this building came down under design load conditions,” said Walter.

The study says NIST made some fundamental errors in how engineers estimated the rigidity of the outside building frame and that the heat generated by the fire did not trigger “thermal movements” at a critical base plate support.

Further, the group, which includes families of those killed, asserts that the investigation is flawed and that the conclusions as to what happened must be based on “science and engineering” and accept that controlled demolition is a plausible cause.

For expediency and because it was not hit by a plane, the study looked only at WTC 7 not the other two but AE911T has long claimed all three were subject to something beyond heat induced failure.

“The report notes that the outside frame was more flexible than the inside framing which is where the elevator shafts were,” says McMaster University professor emeritus of civil engineering, Robert Korol, a fellow of the Canadian Society of Civil Engineering who is also one of two peers who reviewed the UAF study.

“Under the conditions described, the displacement of the outside steel would have been only one inch, not the 6.25 NIST claimed and not enough to cause failure.”

Further, he says, the debris from WTC 1 which fell 943 feet to WTC 7 did not attain sufficient mass to cause structural damage to the steel in that building.

The bottom line, he says, is that the NIST report is flawed and of no value to future engineering or architectural learning.

The Alaska report adds new momentum to long standing claims by the AE911T that all three of the buildings should not have collapsed in the spectacular and deadly manner they did. Further, and Korol underlines this, there was nothing in the offices beyond basic desks, chairs, computers and paper that would be of such a combustible nature so as to feed a fire and raise the temperature to above 1,400 degrees Celsius and melt the steel structure.

“We don’t even know if the steel was fireproofed,” says Korol.

The group makes no assertion as to why it may have been a “controlled demolition” and says its only interest is in ensuring that there’s no need to rethink the structural steel design of highrises because the design was not at fault.

UAF civil engineering professor Leroy Hulsey, principal investigator, his research assistants, Feng Xiao, now an associate professor at Nanjing University of Science and Technology and Zhili Quan, now a bridge engineer for the South Carolina Department of Transportation, found that the design standard of the building was not exceeded by the fire and that simultaneous and controlled demolition caused the structural steel to fail.

“Fires could not have caused weakening of displacement of structural members capable of initiating any of the hypothetical local failures alleged to have triggered the total collapse of the building,” the report states. “Nor could any local failures, even if they had occurred, have triggered a sequence of failures that would have resulted in the observed total collapse.”

The NIST report held that lateral support beams buckled because of thermal expansion from the fire and because they had “nowhere to go” and thus deformed and weakened the structural integrity. Other failures were triggered when joists and beams “walked off” their connections, NIST found.

It was also the first NIST finding of a highrise collapse from thermal deformation caused by fire which the 125-page Alaska report disputes.

It presents arguments showing it was a simultaneous global failure not a localized failure causing a domino effect.

Hulsey et al argue that the collapse was straight down in a pancake fashion with about 2.25 to 2.5 seconds for free fall acceleration.

“In a typical building collapse (given a localized structural steel failure) WTC 7 would be expected to experience a combination of axial rotation and bending of members, resulting in a disjointed, asymmetrical collapse at less than free-fall acceleration,” the report states.

The study team undertook extensive computer and physical modelling, paying particular attention to the area around Column 79 which had been identified as the critical juncture of failure.

Their conclusion is that Columns 79, 80, and 81 did not fail at the lower floors of the building and were not subjected to heat above floor 30 because there were no fires there.

Even if they did, they would not trigger a horizontal progression of core column failures and the team was unable to find any other plausible cause for the progressive sequence of failures.

>>

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the good guys and the people winning is the plan.  trump winning is probably part of that, but the white hats have thrown lots of curve balls.  let's see what happens.

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Why does everything have to be this or that? Why is it that if one has legitimate questions that go against the narrative they are ‘9/11 truthers’ or some other derogatory bullshit?

Would it surprise me if it was intentionally brought down? Not in the slightest. Could it have came down because of damage from other buildings? It could have.

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Why does everything have to be this or that? Why is it that if one has legitimate questions that go against the narrative they are '9/11 truthers' or some other derogatory bullshit?

Would it surprise me if it was intentionally brought down? Not in the slightest. Could it have came down because of damage from other buildings? It could have.

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whoa man take it easy.  how many checkerboards have you gone through already?  those things don't grow on trees.  

Trump is doing his job, he's not the whole plan.  His job is to make everybody think he is.