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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:39:02 PM EDT
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because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted
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I want to know where the M5 through M13s went. Isn't anyone just a little concerned about that? They've gone missing and no one cares!
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Because AR15 was an Armalite designation. It was brought in under the XM-16 designation as an experimental rifle. Once it was adopted it became the M-16.
Numbers get skipped because at some point, those numbers were designations for experimental and discarded ideas. Many of which can only be seen in photos. |
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M1 garand rifle
M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? |
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Why did we go from the M79 to M203 to the M320? Were there that many grenade launchers in-between???
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p-38 plane, p-38 can opener, m1 garand, m1 carbine, m4 carbine, m4 tank. etc, etc.
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Quoted: "AR15" is not synonymous with "semi-auto": View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: BC its simi And not. Mil "AR15" is not synonymous with "semi-auto": |
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M3 carbine M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M15 rifle/LMG M15 pistol M16 rifle M21 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. |
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Quoted: And that's a carbine and not a rifle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile M3 subgun also And that's a carbine and not a rifle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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The military does shit that makes sense only in the most convoluted way?!? No, that can't be!
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I think we should have stuck with the pre-WW2 system of using the year of adoption in a weapon's name: M1911, M1903, M1918, etc.
So the M16 should have been the M1964. |
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. |
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Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle", which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. View Quote That's some grade-A trolling right there. |
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. View Quote Christ. IB4HA In before heart attacks |
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? Correct. I believe the m3 carbine was a "sniper" version of the m1 carbine with an early technology night vision scope. M2 carbine was a full auto version of the m1 carbine. The m3 grease gun is a sub machine gun, not a carbine, technically speaking. |
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Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. View Quote You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) |
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How did we get from the M60 Tank to the M1? Did we run out of numbers, and have to start over again?
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Quoted: View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. |
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A lot of the commandos in Nam used the Xtreme Machinegun in 177 caliber.
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