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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:47:04 PM EST
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This guy here knows what time it is. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/IMG_0128-580941.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Glider of your choosing with a non-emission Series 60 Detroit, C15 Cat or Cummins N14. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/157991/IMG_0128-580941.JPG Or try getting vocational truck gliders. I have a unicorn. Literally a unicorn. It's a CAT CT660 glider with a 2001 6NZ C15. In a straight truck, set up for vocational work. 1 of 4 or 5 in the US. Second one ordered. Third completed. Only one in Ohio. And I think, the only tank wagon. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:47:37 PM EST
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T-800
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:51:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea. My fleet is US based. Mostly Freightliner and International currently. I won't buy another international, haven't in years. I've bought 3 peterbilts this year so far. Just bought a Freightliner M2-112 yesterday. Working on a deal to buy 7, with an option of 11 Peterbilt 348s with ISCs in them. My fleet will be majority peterbilts or Kenworth in the next 3 years. 196 rolling units right now. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:53:21 PM EST
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Freightliner IMO. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:54:29 PM EST
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http://i63.tinypic.com/bdtblw.jpg I like the city of detroit's GMC 9500s......still in service..... |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:59:13 PM EST
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Probably powered by a Detroit 2 stroke! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i63.tinypic.com/bdtblw.jpg I like the city of detroit's GMC 9500s......still in service..... |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:00:46 PM EST
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:01:31 PM EST
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Western Star is always the answer. My friend's '15 389 Fitz glider is a squeak machine. My '13 4900sb glider is not. He's owned his since new, mine was a fleet truck up in Michigan for 500k miles. I had a BC built 4964ex before this. All steel cab like Volvo's, which may be great or terrible depending on where you live. This is the 6th Detroit series 60(5 12.7, 1 11.1) I've owned. Drivers aren't the biggest fans, but owners are! @Foxtrot08 those are impressive numbers.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:03:38 PM EST
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I don't know jack shitt about big rigs, but this one (International Lone Star) looks bad ass!
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:05:02 PM EST
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I can’t tell you which one is the best but I can tell you which ones I always thought looked cool.
Thanks to mad max the Mack r600 is a personal favorite. Although I like the Mack line of trucks going all the way back.  I’ve always liked the gmc brigadier too since I saw a dump truck version as a kid that was there to fix our street. I thought it was neat because it had a split windshield, but looked like a regular truck cab. 
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:06:32 PM EST
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You know what they say about Mack, one asshole looking at another.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:07:46 PM EST
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Sounds like a mother fucker of a collision. How.fast are they going? Are they loaded or empty?
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:18:30 PM EST
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I always liked the International 9400i and 9900ix models with the mid height sleepers because I thought the cab was set up nice inside and that's what I always bought. If I had to buy a new one today I'd get a Peterbuilt glider with a 3406 Cat so I don't have to have e-logs.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:27:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try ordering 20 of them with any success. Or try getting vocational truck gliders. I have a unicorn. Literally a unicorn. It's a CAT CT660 glider with a 2001 6NZ C15. In a straight truck, set up for vocational work. 1 of 4 or 5 in the US. Second one ordered. Third completed. Only one in Ohio. And I think, the only tank wagon. Company I work for has a bunch of gliders, but you're right. They can't get enough. Shit, even tough to get new trucks spec'd our way from the factory. We've bought a few dealer spec trucks lately because business is growing too fast for us to wait for what we really want. Good problem to have, I guess. 
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:30:00 PM EST
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I spend a lot of time in Internationals.
Its not International. 
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:44:51 PM EST
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Dat 6nZ doe... haha... great motor... owner's personal W900 has one, and he still drives it when things are busy, as they are right now. Company I work for has a bunch of gliders, but you're right. They can't get enough. Shit, even tough to get new trucks spec'd our way from the factory. We've bought a few dealer spec trucks lately because business is growing too fast for us to wait for what we really want. Good problem to have, I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Try ordering 20 of them with any success. Or try getting vocational truck gliders. I have a unicorn. Literally a unicorn. It's a CAT CT660 glider with a 2001 6NZ C15. In a straight truck, set up for vocational work. 1 of 4 or 5 in the US. Second one ordered. Third completed. Only one in Ohio. And I think, the only tank wagon. Company I work for has a bunch of gliders, but you're right. They can't get enough. Shit, even tough to get new trucks spec'd our way from the factory. We've bought a few dealer spec trucks lately because business is growing too fast for us to wait for what we really want. Good problem to have, I guess. Which by the time I get tanks put on them for oil delivery, we are looking at April to june. .. a year lead time? You have to be fucking kidding me. Thus why I bought the m2-112. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:58:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was told on Monday, by one major Pete dealer, if I ordered Monday I'd have my trucks January to March area. Which by the time I get tanks put on them for oil delivery, we are looking at April to june. .. a year lead time? You have to be fucking kidding me. Thus why I bought the m2-112. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:59:58 PM EST
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Metzlers had a few Pete triaxles on hand last time I was there picking up a new tank wagon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I was told on Monday, by one major Pete dealer, if I ordered Monday I'd have my trucks January to March area. Which by the time I get tanks put on them for oil delivery, we are looking at April to june. .. a year lead time? You have to be fucking kidding me. Thus why I bought the m2-112. Edit I still do tandems for the moment. Although I'm looking at some new tandems + a tag designs from Bradshaw's and oilmans. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:00:12 PM EST
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Can you mod these trucks for more power? Is that a common thing?
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:01:44 PM EST
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It's no secret that Peterbilt is the most popular and most reliable. That's why you see so many of them on the road, especially the 379's. When it comes to motorwise, Cummins is going to be your best choice. I'm not sure about the newest motors, but Cummins, like the Small Cam, Big Cam, N14, etc. mostly had sleeves blocks, so it made rebuilds particularly easy because you could almost always salvage the block and just pop the sleeves out and put new ones in, then replace or rebuild the pistons, rods, carriers, etc. Caterpillar never had that. So once a block was toast, that was it. I had a truck with an NHC250 in it, with probably close to 2 or more million miles on the block, it got in-frame rebuilds when needed, and then it was right back out on the road. Was the most reliable truck I ever had. My Dad had a Freightliner Century Class as his last truck before he retired. It was really nice, but I wouldn't have forked over the cash he did for it. I think it had a C-14 or C-15 Cat in it. It did well, just wasn't my cup of tea.
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Can you mod these trucks for more power? Is that a common thing? |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:02:15 PM EST
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I’m partial to Mack but only because my great uncle was President of the Company.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:03:44 PM EST
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Can you mod these trucks for more power? Is that a common thing? Fleets like mine? No. The OEMs set a HP range the engine can be at. Like an C15 can be 430hp to 550hp. You can spec it that way. An ISC I think is 270 to 370hp. You set it for your application. Fuel economy and such follows. The higher you put it, the more wear you put on the engine. In theory the more your fuel economy goes down, etc. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:13:51 PM EST
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Dat 6nZ doe... haha... great motor... owner's personal W900 has one, and he still drives it when things are busy, as they are right now. Company I work for has a bunch of gliders, but you're right. They can't get enough. Shit, even tough to get new trucks spec'd our way from the factory. We've bought a few dealer spec trucks lately because business is growing too fast for us to wait for what we really want. Good problem to have, I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Try ordering 20 of them with any success. Or try getting vocational truck gliders. I have a unicorn. Literally a unicorn. It's a CAT CT660 glider with a 2001 6NZ C15. In a straight truck, set up for vocational work. 1 of 4 or 5 in the US. Second one ordered. Third completed. Only one in Ohio. And I think, the only tank wagon. Company I work for has a bunch of gliders, but you're right. They can't get enough. Shit, even tough to get new trucks spec'd our way from the factory. We've bought a few dealer spec trucks lately because business is growing too fast for us to wait for what we really want. Good problem to have, I guess. Beautiful truck. 389 Pete, full elite package. Coupled with a brand new Heil trailer. I'd post pics but I'd opsec myself... As my name is kinda all over it... |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:20:49 PM EST
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I have zero expertise in the subject, but peterbilts are the the coolest looking imo. Especially the stretched out showtrucks: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/359475/41124CC5-ECD9-43D1-BEB6-07F0DEAD1984-580798.JPG As a side note, do most truckers think stretching trucks is gay? Is it some gay brodozer equivalent or anything? Not that I care, if I drove a truck, that’s what I’d want. Just curious. ETA: This kenworth t800 is also badass and (relatively) local to me. I see it going to the mill in town here every once in a while: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/359475/6BBA5D29-C474-40A6-AC41-3DFF1CAB6011-580803.JPG that black one is badass!!! |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:22:56 PM EST
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I only drove a Volvo with a Cummins, a peterbilt with a Cummins, and a freightliner with a Detroit diesel. My favorite was Volvo, followed by peterbilt, and finally the freightliner.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:23:39 PM EST
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Whichever one will stay the fuck out of the left lane.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:24:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea. My fleet is US based. Mostly Freightliner and International currently. I won't buy another international, haven't in years. I've bought 3 peterbilts this year so far. Just bought a Freightliner M2-112 yesterday. Working on a deal to buy 7, with an option of 11 Peterbilt 348s with ISCs in them. My fleet will be majority peterbilts or Kenworth in the next 3 years. 196 rolling units right now.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:24:50 PM EST
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I'd take anything with a glider .6nz cat engine.
The engine will outlast the truck |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:25:52 PM EST
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No Tesla? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No idea. My fleet is US based. Mostly Freightliner and International currently. I won't buy another international, haven't in years. I've bought 3 peterbilts this year so far. Just bought a Freightliner M2-112 yesterday. Working on a deal to buy 7, with an option of 11 Peterbilt 348s with ISCs in them. My fleet will be majority peterbilts or Kenworth in the next 3 years. 196 rolling units right now.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:28:23 PM EST
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This is relevant to my interests. Contemplating quitting my desk job to haul freight.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:29:44 PM EST
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:31:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryTechnically it's Navistar now.
That symbol is property of CIH. Which is a division of fiat. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:32:24 PM EST
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Volvo, there is a reason paccar and daimler purchase them and try to reverse engineer their design.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:34:01 PM EST
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30 years as a Mack tech. Since Volvo owns them now and we're stuck with the Volvo engines, great job security for me!
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:37:44 PM EST
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It's no secret that Peterbilt is the most popular and most reliable. That's why you see so many of them on the road, especially the 379's. When it comes to motorwise, Cummins is going to be your best choice. I'm not sure about the newest motors, but Cummins, like the Small Cam, Big Cam, N14, etc. mostly had sleeves blocks, so it made rebuilds particularly easy because you could almost always salvage the block and just pop the sleeves out and put new ones in, then replace or rebuild the pistons, rods, carriers, etc. Caterpillar never had that. So once a block was toast, that was it. I had a truck with an NHC250 in it, with probably close to 2 or more million miles on the block, it got in-frame rebuilds when needed, and then it was right back out on the road. Was the most reliable truck I ever had. My Dad had a Freightliner Century Class as his last truck before he retired. It was really nice, but I wouldn't have forked over the cash he did for it. I think it had a C-14 or C-15 Cat in it. It did well, just wasn't my cup of tea. Most definitely, there are places that specialize in it just like pickups. The old mechanical Cummins like the NHC250, and the 300, and 400 Big Cams for example were easy to mod yourself. You replaced the fuel button and turned the fuel screw on the PT Pump and you had more power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's no secret that Peterbilt is the most popular and most reliable. That's why you see so many of them on the road, especially the 379's. When it comes to motorwise, Cummins is going to be your best choice. I'm not sure about the newest motors, but Cummins, like the Small Cam, Big Cam, N14, etc. mostly had sleeves blocks, so it made rebuilds particularly easy because you could almost always salvage the block and just pop the sleeves out and put new ones in, then replace or rebuild the pistons, rods, carriers, etc. Caterpillar never had that. So once a block was toast, that was it. I had a truck with an NHC250 in it, with probably close to 2 or more million miles on the block, it got in-frame rebuilds when needed, and then it was right back out on the road. Was the most reliable truck I ever had. My Dad had a Freightliner Century Class as his last truck before he retired. It was really nice, but I wouldn't have forked over the cash he did for it. I think it had a C-14 or C-15 Cat in it. It did well, just wasn't my cup of tea. Quoted:
Can you mod these trucks for more power? Is that a common thing? I've rebuilt several, using aftermarket parts, 1/2 to 2/3 the cost of Cat, and just as good, IMHO. Change the oil, dont overspeed it or cook it, watch the EGT, and they will go forever. Of course, asking a steering wheel holder to do those things is asking a lot......  IMHO YMMV
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:38:17 PM EST
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The company I work for currently buys two trucks:
New Kenworths with X15's or New Pete gliders with pre 2000 CATs We pay decent and are hiring in PA, MI, and CO currently. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:41:04 PM EST
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Volvo makes the best truck out there, bar none.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:42:31 PM EST
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The company I work for currently buys two trucks: New Kenworths with X15's or New Pete gliders with pre 2000 CATs We pay decent and are hiring in PA, MI, and CO currently. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:44:33 PM EST
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Can you custom spec the peterbuilts without an engine and drop in a reman CAT? I heard kenworth provided this as an option, so it would make sense that paccar allows this through both of their brands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The company I work for currently buys two trucks: New Kenworths with X15's or New Pete gliders with pre 2000 CATs We pay decent and are hiring in PA, MI, and CO currently. It's do able. You save about 15% vs new. But the EPA is really ratcheting the screws down on the OEMs. To the point I heard next year there's a Max of about 5000 gliders to be made. Not only that, your time frame of completion is hard to judge. It's worth it if you're an owner operator. But a large fleet it's a nightmare to manage. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:47:56 PM EST
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Pete or KW. I've tried to like the Freightliners and the IH but I just can't. Last time I drove a Volvo was in 2011. Went to AK and back with in the winter. I really don't mind Volvos. They all squeak. I really dislike the new T680 KW and the 579 Petes. I prefer the narrow cab 389, 386, T800, W900 cabs. I tried to order a trailer for arrival before the end of the year, I got laughed at. Right now if you want a truck and you have to have it right now as a new one you are limited to what is on the dealer lots.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:48:12 PM EST
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Absolutely. The 389 will fit the CAT perfectly. You can spec almost however you want. Currently can only get them through 2020 however.
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you custom spec the peterbuilts without an engine and drop in a reman CAT? I heard kenworth provided this as an option, so it would make sense that paccar allows this through both of their brands. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:54:17 PM EST
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Construction, paving, local use Mack
Over the road Peterbilt |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:54:34 PM EST
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I know virtually nothing about the topic, but it is endlessly fascinating to me. As I kid i always wanted to be a truck driver. I loved the kenworth w900. The kind that had a sleeper with the two windows facing forward up top.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:58:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To a trucker how is that even practical? Have you seen some of the docks that they have to try and back into and the truck stops? I'm a truck drivers kid and my dad has always (and still does at 60 years old) drives freightliners. 
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:01:20 PM EST
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You talking otr or day cabs? Or oil patch rough ass roads? I’ve done international, fright liner, Kenworth and western star on oil/gas patch roads and I’d take the kenworth every time. Cab is just a bit small though.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:09:44 PM EST
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Not every trucker bumps docks for a living. I miss the 389 Pete pictured below, nice ride for long distance and the C15 Cat pulls nice down low. The Kenworth T800 I drive now isn't near as comfortable for long trips but the 550 hp ISX Cummins is strong, reliable and the engine brake is 2nd to none. The Pete cabs squeak, rattle and leak over over time but the T800s stay tight even after beating down gravel roads for 1000's of miles. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119852/pin_and_go_JPG-581157.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: To a trucker how is that even practical? Have you seen some of the docks that they have to try and back into and the truck stops? I'm a truck drivers kid and my dad has always (and still does at 60 years old) drives freightliners. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119852/pin_and_go_JPG-581157.jpg Wish I had a need for one. Biggest non tanker trailer I have is only 35 tons. But I haul petroleum products. Thus why I have 30+ tanker trailers. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:10:34 PM EST
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378/379 FTW
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:18:16 PM EST
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I have really enjoyed heavy hauling with the 379s and w900s we have. Can't really say which one I would take if I had to choose. To me the engine is much more important, I'll take a c15 with an 18 speed in whatever truck is available.
Really surprised at all the love the 60 series is getting, but I imagine that's a lot of guys hauling 80k and not heavier. We had an old Freightliner that was a dog with the 60 series and a 10 speed. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:22:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was told on Monday, by one major Pete dealer, if I ordered Monday I'd have my trucks January to March area. Which by the time I get tanks put on them for oil delivery, we are looking at April to june. .. a year lead time? You have to be fucking kidding me. Thus why I bought the m2-112. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:23:57 PM EST
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I don't know jack shitt about big rigs, but this one (International Lone Star) looks bad ass! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86524/lonestar-580975.JPG |
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