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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:26:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:28:06 AM EDT
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I grew up in Vermont. Real Maple Syrup or nothing.
Brown sugary corn syrup needs to be forgotten already. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:29:18 AM EDT
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We have rules here.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:36:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:47:10 AM EDT
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Concur.
Pure maple sugar candy is awesome too. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:49:40 AM EDT
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This is the time where I prefer the "fake" stuff. Every time I bought "real" syrup it was super runny. Might as well pour sugary brown food colored water on the pancakes or waffles.
I like it to run like a little bit like molasses. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:52:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I grew up in Vermont. Real Maple Syrup or nothing. Brown sugary corn syrup needs to be forgotten already. I grew up in kansas and i agree |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:52:58 AM EDT
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We make our own. Good stuff.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:56:51 AM EDT
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It’s a pretty localized product compared to many food stuffs.
Keep in mind that for the majority of its production, it was had taps and buckets collection. Not the modernized planted stands of sugar maple with gravity lines, etc. And it still takes tending a boiler averaging around 35 gallons of sap evaporated into one gallon of syrup. So, keep in mind the team of horses, sled, buckets, taps, labor, firewood, tending, etc. historically that went into each gallon. So, while it may be 40$ a gallon now, still far costlier than substitutes, It was say 35$ a gallon in the 60s/70s/80s. More like the equivalent of 200 dollars a gallon on today’s dollars. If you were not in an area that produced it and tied into a production cost only supply, keeping it an expensive staple, it was a very costly item to keep in supply. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:57:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We make our own. Good stuff. My brother in law and I make enough for our families. If we don’t have enough, we buy it from some friends. Quite a few people in my area do small scale maple syrup production. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 9:58:41 AM EDT
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I have this waiting for when my syrup is done
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:00:05 AM EDT
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Syrup belongs in the fridge
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:05:11 AM EDT
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I had some of my own this morning.
It’s delicious, but it’s a bunch of work and not cost effective at all. Still, I make it. And my buddy made a batch of maple brown beer with some……. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:07:59 AM EDT
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had too much as a kid.
we were poor, but had maple trees, so candy was always maple candy and oatmeal always had maple syrup. basically if it was sweet, it was maple. I prefer honey now. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:08:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We make our own. Good stuff. Home made. Now I bet that IS some good stuff! |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:09:28 AM EDT
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I have relatives that work / have worked at Kent Brothers Pure Maple Syrup, Fairisle Maple Products, and Bonz Beach Farms no corn syrup based crap is allowed anywhere under my roof.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have this waiting for when my syrup is done https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272736/20221120_065502-2607251.jpg I saw that at the store and was curious about it. Let us know how it is! |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:14:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw that at the store and was curious about it. Let us know how it is! I have had a similar one before. Just a touch of whiskey flavor but i liked it. The wife wanted regular |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:19:27 AM EDT
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Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake? Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil?
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:24:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake? Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil? |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:24:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a pretty localized product compared to many food stuffs. Keep in mind that for the majority of its production, it was had taps and buckets collection. Not the modernized planted stands of sugar maple with gravity lines, etc. And it still takes tending a boiler averaging around 35 gallons of sap evaporated into one gallon of syrup. So, keep in mind the team of horses, sled, buckets, taps, labor, firewood, tending, etc. historically that went into each gallon. So, while it may be 40$ a gallon now, still far costlier than substitutes, It was say 35$ a gallon in the 60s/70s/80s. More like the equivalent of 200 dollars a gallon on today’s dollars. That's how my father did. Horse drawn sledge, buckets hanging from spyles/taps, wood fired evaporator. For personal use he preferred the first runs which were clearer. Buyers preferred the darker batches. Sugar sand (sugar coated sand filtered out of the syrup) was sometimes fed to unsuspecting town kids. He was often disappointed by the modern production as not boiled down enough. You know, maple sugar was sometimes referred to as 'free sugar' meaning its production did not use slave labor as did southern cane sugar. If you were not in an area that produced it and tied into a production cost only supply, keeping it an expensive staple, it was a very costly item to keep in supply. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:25:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake? Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil? Location checks out as does username |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:26:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a pretty localized product compared to many food stuffs. Keep in mind that for the majority of its production, it was had taps and buckets collection. Not the modernized planted stands of sugar maple with gravity lines, etc. And it still takes tending a boiler averaging around 35 gallons of sap evaporated into one gallon of syrup. So, keep in mind the team of horses, sled, buckets, taps, labor, firewood, tending, etc. historically that went into each gallon. So, while it may be 40$ a gallon now, still far costlier than substitutes, It was say 35$ a gallon in the 60s/70s/80s. More like the equivalent of 200 dollars a gallon on today’s dollars. If you were not in an area that produced it and tied into a production cost only supply, keeping it an expensive staple, it was a very costly item to keep in supply. That's how my father did. Horse drawn sledge, buckets hanging from spyles/taps, wood fired evaporator. For personal use he preferred the first runs which were clearer. Buyers preferred the darker batches. Sugar sand (sugar coated sand filtered out of the syrup) was sometimes fed to unsuspecting town kids. He was often disappointed by the modern production as not boiled down enough. You know, maple sugar was sometimes referred to as 'free sugar' meaning its production did not use slave labor as did southern cane sugar. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:31:58 AM EDT
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Most people just don't know any better. French toast and such have been introduced globally, but accompanied by the easier to distribute and store fake stuff. I'm in South America at the moment and these poor souls seem to only have artificially-flavored syrup.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:31:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Home made. Now I bet that IS some good stuff! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We make our own. Good stuff. Home made. Now I bet that IS some good stuff!  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached Filemy buddies place in VT.. my kids getting a taste of the first warm batch, got to ride on the 9n and collect the sap.. play in the mud and streams.. was a good day |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:34:45 AM EDT
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If you want a real treat sometime, head up to Quebec where they make Maple Syrup Pie. Good stuff!
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:35:45 AM EDT
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We do it on a tiny scale. Only ten buckets and a converted drum setup fired by leftover slabs from the mill.
Enough to keep the kids happy though  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We do it on a tiny scale. Only ten buckets and a converted drum setup fired by leftover slabs from the mill. Enough to keep the kids happy though https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26478/IMG_2631_jpg-2607297.JPG that's how i did it as a yoot. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:37:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake? Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil? No. 100% pure maple syrup labeled products are not mixed with anything. There is a whole industry of “maple”, maple flavored, etc. Syrups out there which is probably what you are referring to. A product labeled as 100% maple syrup but had been mixed with corn syrup would be extremely obvious to someone accustomed to real maple syrup. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:38:18 AM EDT
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dayum, y'all some rich muthef#ckers around here...
hekk yeah it's good, but who can afford it? |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:38:37 AM EDT
[#31]
Life is too short for the fake stuff.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:40:33 AM EDT
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We started with 50 taps and now will make around 550-600 gallons this year. It’s been fun. It’s a perfect bridge from winter to warm weather.
We sell just enough to pay the expenses and then give the rest away. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:41:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7587_JPG-2607282.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7577_JPG-2607283.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7649_JPG-2607284.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7674_JPG-2607287.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7667_JPG-2607289.JPG my buddies place in VT.. my kids getting a taste of the first warm batch, got to ride on the 9n and collect the sap.. play in the mud and streams.. was a good day The roads, terrain, and stone walls paint the perfect picture of some authentic Vermont maple syrup. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:45:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We do it on a tiny scale. Only ten buckets and a converted drum setup fired by leftover slabs from the mill. Enough to keep the kids happy though https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26478/IMG_2631_jpg-2607297.JPG How much does that make? |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I grew up in Vermont. Real Maple Syrup or nothing. Brown sugary corn syrup needs to be forgotten already. Everything else is sweetened ear wax. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:50:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much does that make? I boiled 60 gallons this spring and got just a shade over a gallon and a half of syrup in my home setup. I also gave 10 gallons of sap to my buddy for beer, and I lost 10 gallons to a bear. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:50:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7587_JPG-2607282.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7577_JPG-2607283.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7649_JPG-2607284.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7674_JPG-2607287.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/93480/IMG_7667_JPG-2607289.JPG my buddies place in VT.. my kids getting a taste of the first warm batch, got to ride on the 9n and collect the sap.. play in the mud and streams.. was a good day All of this is awesome |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:51:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much does that make? |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 10:55:00 AM EDT
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I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy.
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:00:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is some good stuff. Why in the fuck would anyone want that fake flavored corn syrup? Setting here enjoying some stuffed french toast my girlfriend made, topped with 100% pure maple syrup. Do not care if it is a little more expensive, it is 100% worth it. A little more expensive? Try a lot. That's why people eat the fake stuff. And while I love maple syrup on my FT, I actually prefer the fake stuff on waffles or pancakes. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:01:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry, Bruce. These boys get that syrup in 'em, they get all antsy in their pantsy.  |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:06:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the time where I prefer the "fake" stuff. Every time I bought "real" syrup it was super runny. Might as well pour sugary brown food colored water on the pancakes or waffles. I like it to run like a little bit like molasses. Just boil it down a little more. Use a candy thermometer. You want to be 7F above boiling at your altitude. There are tables you can look up to see what water boiling temp is for your elevation. For me it's about 217F When it starts to form a heavy frothy set of bubbles, lift it off the stove immediately Whoever bottled it probably didn't take it down far enough. Time is money. And a little more volume for them to bottle. I've been collecting sap and making my own for about ten years. Tougher to do on my own now that my Dad is gone. But a real evaporator pan sure has helped cut the time down, and I don't tap as many trees anymore either. Used to give a lot away. I need to build a wood fired arch though. Will be too expensive with propane now. Maybe next season. I bought this arch before my Dad died, he never got to use it. He loved doing this stuff,kept him busy. It’s pretty slick and sized right for the hobbyist. It was from Badgerland Maple Work. As I did it with two camp chef stoves, definitely not cost efficient  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:08:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is some good stuff. Why in the fuck would anyone want that fake flavored corn syrup? Setting here enjoying some stuffed french toast my girlfriend made, topped with 100% pure maple syrup. Do not care if it is a little more expensive, it is 100% worth it. I'm not going back. I also use less of it. Just a drizzle is enough. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:10:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have had a similar one before. Just a touch of whiskey flavor but i liked it. The wife wanted regular Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I saw that at the store and was curious about it. Let us know how it is! I have had a similar one before. Just a touch of whiskey flavor but i liked it. The wife wanted regular I have a bourbon barrel maple syrup here in the cabinet. Good stuff. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:10:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. 100% pure maple syrup labeled products are not mixed with anything. There is a whole industry of “maple”, maple flavored, etc. Syrups out there which is probably what you are referring to. A product labeled as 100% maple syrup but had been mixed with corn syrup would be extremely obvious to someone accustomed to real maple syrup. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake? Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil? No. 100% pure maple syrup labeled products are not mixed with anything. There is a whole industry of “maple”, maple flavored, etc. Syrups out there which is probably what you are referring to. A product labeled as 100% maple syrup but had been mixed with corn syrup would be extremely obvious to someone accustomed to real maple syrup. I wouldn't trust anything not sold by a small time producer. Certainly nothing from a big box store as being "pure" Just like many olive oils are cut extensively with canola/rape seed oil. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:11:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:15:34 AM EDT
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 Attached FileI made my own last year. Only ended up with about 1/2 gallon. Upping production slightly and hoping for 1-1/2 gallons this year. I do need to boil it slightly longer as it was on the thin side. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:19:11 AM EDT
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Big business.
Anyone remember the great Canadian Syrup Heist of 2012? Quebec's "Strategic Maple Reserve" was siphoned and replaced with water   |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:19:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the time where I prefer the "fake" stuff. Every time I bought "real" syrup it was super runny. Might as well pour sugary brown food colored water on the pancakes or waffles. I like it to run like a little bit like molasses. Imagine that, whenever pancake syrup was invented. "it doesn't flow like the real stuff, who is going to buy this crap?" LOL. |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 11:20:19 AM EDT
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There are probably rules governing the labeling of 100% pure maple syrup; I feel confident that it's pure when I buy it. My old neighbor used to make his own and keep us supplied but after we moved we started getting the Costco stuff. As a kid all we ever had was stuff like Log Cabin or Mrs. Butterworth, etc. and I could never go back.
In Canada there is a cartel/mafia that controls maple syrup and people find out when they fuck around. Quebec’s maple syrup “marketing board” first made big news in 2012 when the culprits of an $18 million maple syrup heist (really) from the Global Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve (really) were caught by provincial police. (See the whole story in a feature film, coming soon, starring Jason Segel — ...really.) The board is making news again thanks to recent crackdowns on producers who want to sell syrup outside its control. Link to article |
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