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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:00:36 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:00:39 PM EST
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Gaetz was smoking everyone on Ingraham .."I'm the only one in both houses who doesn't take lobbiest $ and super pacs."
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:01:56 PM EST
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Sorry OP, but holding a liar accountable is appropriate.
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:02:08 PM EST
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In reality not even that meets the Constitutional definition of treason. The grossly ignorant toss that term around like candy.
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How so?
Elaborate.

Seems like anyone prioritizing funding a proxy war to obfuscate money laundering would be a traitor. But what do I know.

In reality not even that meets the Constitutional definition of treason. The grossly ignorant toss that term around like candy.
Agreed 100%.
Same with the word fascist.
People love to compartmentalize things, and most lack the language to do so effectively.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:02:35 PM EST
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Gaetz worked and voted to oust a sack of shit member of the uni-party, sounds like he voted his conscience just like a lot of "principled conservatives" here say that's how they will vote in 2024.  
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:02:36 PM EST
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He's a man who is upset with the status quo as many of us are.
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:02:51 PM EST
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Change my mind, not so much.
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Not even gonna try...



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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:04:10 PM EST
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Ukebros dont like the fleecing of America may slow down
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:07:10 PM EST
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Gaetz did something principle related, vs. doing something "politicky".

Playing politics only gets a big Dem cock shoved up our ass every fucking time.  When was the last time the Democrats came to the table with their hat in their hand and gave up big time shit to us, in return for "keeping the government running" or some little bullshit pet cause of theirs?  Hint: MOTHERFUCKING NEVER.

Buy giving in to the Dems over and over, we are only slowing the inevitable complete takeover.  I say let's fucking get it done.  Then we'll see how the people really like it.  

You could literally swap McCarthy and Pence and nobody would even fucking notice the difference if you didn't look at their face very closely.
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Gaetz did something principle related, vs. doing something "politicky".

Playing politics only gets a big Dem cock shoved up our ass every fucking time.  When was the last time the Democrats came to the table with their hat in their hand and gave up big time shit to us, in return for "keeping the government running" or some little bullshit pet cause of theirs?  Hint: MOTHERFUCKING NEVER.

Buy giving in to the Dems over and over, we are only slowing the inevitable complete takeover.  I say let's fucking get it done.  Then we'll see how the people really like it.  

You could literally swap McCarthy and Pence and nobody would even fucking notice the difference if you didn't look at their face very closely.


Nailed it.

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Maybe now, just maybe, these lame fucks who're supposed to be on our side instead of acting like white flag waiving cunts will wake the fuck up...


Also, they're fucking waiving uke flags nowadays.  

Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:09:09 PM EST
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Massie claims they had a bill cutting spending by 8% that included border security and Gaetz and 20 others voted it down:



He's also previously stated that Gaetz was instrumental in blocking the 12 different individual appropriations bills so that McCarthy couldn't get them to the floor or get them passed. In many of those votes, Gaetz voted alongside the Dems to obstruct legislation that the vast majority of Republicans agreed with (including no non-sense Conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy).

Multiple GOP Reps have spoken out and said this was all about a personal vendetta by Gaetz. Gaetz didn't want McCarthy to be speaker and when McCarthy won he somewhat spiked the football. Gaetz has been working overtime to MAKE SURE McCarthy couldn't get bills passed and has used a variety of obstructionist tactics while claiming McCarthy isn't doing what he promised.

I can't stand McCarthy. Is he a RINO? I don't think so. But, he's not particularly trustworthy or likeable. Regardless, McCarthy was kept in check by the Conservatives who actually wanted to see regular order, floor amendments, and less leadership control over the House. McCarthy has been held accountable and according to many Reps like Donalds, Roy, Massie etc he's kept his word.

It was particularly interesting to me that camera whore Nancy Mace joined Gaetz in this vote. I have a difficult time believing Gaetz and Mace over the other names mentioned. Look at their records. Look at their publicity seeking ways. Look at the fact it's an open secret Gaetz is trying to launch a campaign for Governor in Florida and Mace has similar aspirations for higher office.

I won't cry that McCarthy is gone. Don't like him. But, I think he was ejected for the wrong reason using tactics that were 100% backed by the Democrats. Some of you think "blowing things up" is the way to go. What you've forgotten is that the average voter disagrees. They're going to punish this kind of dysfunctional governance. The "outcome" of the budget battle is actually likely to be LESS favorable than if McCarthy had stayed. We're probably looking at an omnibus or another CR that includes no border security. It will also include Ukraine funding (which I'm totally fine with but many people here do NOT want).

I truly think that GD watches too many movies and trusts too many people who tell them what they want to hear. If McCarthy has done such a bad job why did only 7 Republicans, other than Gaetz, agree? One of which was Nancy Mace! Why would every single Democrat vote for this if McCarthy has been doing their bidding and making secret deals with them? Makes zero logical sense.
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Massie is pretty legit, when he's saying Gaetz fucked up and things are probably going to be worse after everything is said and done people should take notice.

It's incredibly ironic that McCarthy is being accused of working with dems when he'd rather lose his speakership than strike a deal with them to retain it, and Gaetz literally had to cross over to speak from the Dem side of the house and voted in lockstep with them to evict the sitting Republican speaker.


Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:10:04 PM EST
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Nancy pelosi probably
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:10:11 PM EST
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All he did was give the house to the libtards.  Now we are completely and utterly under the control of the dems.
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Right………….
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:10:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:11:06 PM EST
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Republican Party is such a cluster fuck. Herding cats would be orderly compared to republicans.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:12:01 PM EST
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
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Gaetz delivered a death blow to a speaker who broke his word. He does not owe anyone anything more.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:14:25 PM EST
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
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This needs to be reiterated. They had about the best deal possible under the circumstances, and Gaetz and the HFC intervened to fuck it all up and the only thing they got from it in the end was an even worse bill overall.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:15:27 PM EST
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Gaetz just destroyed the dog and pony show. He let a bitch in heat go towards the west(dems) Slapped the ponys rears while they were facing east.(repubs)

Listen to the VIP ticket holders squeal.

This is no game.  Politics haven’t been about disagreements about how to do things for quite a while.

We are quite literally in the middle of a coldish civil war.

So many refuse to see the tyranny and persecution right in front of them.

The vast majority are too uninformed, stupid, or distracted trying to make ends meet due the economic conditions to do or even say anything unless steered.

Stop trying to act like the political strategies of the past 40 years have any merit at this next series of crossroads.

This was needed.

It may amount to worse things but only because of the brainwashing that has been so successful.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:15:37 PM EST
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Gaetz was smoking everyone on Ingraham .."I'm the only one in both houses who doesn't take lobbiest $ and super pacs."
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So run as an independent instead of being apart of the establishment. Put your money where your mouth is.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:15:49 PM EST
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Gaetz wants single issue votes in the House right? Funding for Ukraine will win a vote like that with over 90% of Republicans supporting it. The only thing that's been holding it up is bundling it with other issues.

Put it to a straight up/down vote absolutely.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:16:04 PM EST
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Fuck McCarthy and his closed door deals with the devil.



If he's making closed door deals with the Democrats then why would they vote him out? That doesn't make any logical sense.

Wasn't it Gaetz who made that accusation? Odd. So, the guy who is supposedly making the closed door deals with Dems gets zero Dem votes yet the guy supposedly calling out the secret deal gets support of 100% of the Democrats in the House?

Hmm.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:17:13 PM EST
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I generally like Massie but I'll back the HFC on this.

Heck, I'd do it just to see the seething here.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:17:44 PM EST
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Just wait until a few ‘moderate’ republicans team up with the democrats to put a D in charge because the business of the country has to move on.

Then Gaetz can take credit for it.
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Or some may blame the fucking Rinos.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:18:15 PM EST
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Change my mind, not so much.
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You're useless please go vote D or better yet just suck wind lol
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:18:52 PM EST
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This needs to be reiterated. They had about the best deal possible under the circumstances, and Gaetz and the HFC intervened to fuck it all up and the only thing they got from it in the end was an even worse bill overall.
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
This needs to be reiterated. They had about the best deal possible under the circumstances, and Gaetz and the HFC intervened to fuck it all up and the only thing they got from it in the end was an even worse bill overall.

Yeah, they stomped their feet about not getting a perfect bill. Now they have less leverage than before. Their tantrum leads to a worse outcome.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:18:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:19:03 PM EST
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lol Gaetz shuts down the Ukraine money temporarily and the usual suspects here are squealing
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:19:28 PM EST
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OP is wrong
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:19:46 PM EST
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
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Bullshit, there are never any spending cuts, ever. No one congress can encumber another, that's why the spending always happens immediately and the "purported" savings happen over a 10 year period. The savings were never going to happen and everyone who voted for or against it knows that good and well. Then they all just do the same fucking thing all over again and you fall for it...
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:19:51 PM EST
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Ironic considering Gaetz aligned with 100% of the D’s to get thMcCarthy out
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:20:13 PM EST
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We need at least 4 political parties that need to talk to each other to get things done.

America is finished with these two parties.

The American people need to figure out a super majority don't like either party.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:20:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:21:11 PM EST
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FUCK YEA ALL YOU HATERS CAN NOW GO SUCK IT!
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:21:12 PM EST
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Gaetz just destroyed the dog and pony show. He let a bitch in heat go towards the west(dems) Slapped the ponys rears while they were facing east.(repubs)

Listen to the VIP ticket holders squeal.

This is no game.  Politics haven’t been about disagreements about how to do things for quite a while.

We are quite literally in the middle of a coldish civil war.

So many refuse to see the tyranny and persecution right in front of them.

The vast majority are too uninformed, stupid, or distracted trying to make ends meet due the economic conditions to do or even say anything unless steered.

Stop trying to act like the political strategies of the past 40 years have any merit at this next series of crossroads.

This was needed.   <————————————————.  .   THIS !  

It may amount to worse things but only because of the brainwashing that has been so successful.
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:23:21 PM EST
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The Devil owns the fence line. We saw that in action today.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:24:09 PM EST
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Ironic considering Gaetz aligned with 100% of the D’s to get thMcCarthy out
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We aligned with 100% of the Bolsheviks to deal with 200 divisions of Nazis so we could win WWII. These things happen.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:24:52 PM EST
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Why is everyone so down on Gaetz? McCarthy is a pretty slimy swamp monster and a RINO.

I just donated some funds to Matt's campaign fund over this.

McCarthy is was bad news as a Speaker and Matt showed the spineless fecks how to get shit done.

Fuck the RINOS and the GOPe.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:25:49 PM EST
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Glad that weak limp dick is out of the Speakership...
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:26:23 PM EST
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  Ok it’s time

  President Trump for Speaker !    #3 to his rightful  POTUS job.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:31:39 PM EST
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This is the reason she voted to oust McCarthy?

Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:33:02 PM EST
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I can't wait for 2026 when everybody in GD is bitching about what a sellout RINO Gaetz is.
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Make Jim Jordan speaker
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If he will take it.
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If he will take it.
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  Trump for Speaker !   He will take it !
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:35:03 PM EST
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I am sure Dana, Hannity and Neil are just apoplectic with each other right now.

Probably breaking out the good Chardonnay to drown their liberal hack tears in, pretty sure Mark Levin is anyway.
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He’s not the one that worked with the Dems to pass a CR with no solution to the invasion on our southern border.


THIS



BOOM
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:41:31 PM EST
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.
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Shoulda, coulda, woulda..have any receipts that support your supposition?
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:41:42 PM EST
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Gaetz delivered a death blow to a speaker who broke his word. He does not owe anyone anything more.
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When Gaetz delivers an omnibus, or a much worse budgeting outcome than an 8% total spending cut, what are you going to say? That he was betrayed? Because the 8% spending cut had the votes to pass had it not been for Gaetz and his cabal.

Time for Matt Gaetz to show he can deliver better results. No excuses. The baseline is an 8% total federal spending cut. Not a soul can say it can't pass. It would've passed fine had Gaetz and his group voted for it. Oh, it will shutdown the government you say? THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT HE'S MAD AT MCCARTHY FOR NOT DOING.

Either Gaetz delivers a better outcome than the 8% spending cut or he should resign in disgrace. But he won't. Because it was never about the issues or principles. It was about the flashing cameras and news hits.


Gaetz delivered a death blow to a speaker who broke his word. He does not owe anyone anything more.


What word did McCarthy break? Be specific. Because the Republicans who actually negotiated the deal with McCarthy are on record saying that's not true.

Goddamn do I not want to defend Kevin freaking McCarthy, but there's been multiple people involved in the actual negotiation with McCarthy (like Massie and Roy) saying it's simply not true that McCarthy broke any promises. I'm absolutely sure he eventually would have, but, then, why not wait until it's actually true? Maybe the leverage negotiated in the original deal was enough to keep McCarthy in line.

Either way, you guys are hitching your wagon to a political performance artist instead of GOP House members with longstanding uber Conservative track-records. Gaetz promised to nominate Trump as Speaker back in January. He did do it. But, why? What sense at all does that make? Unless, of course, you're just looking for a lot of attention and PR. Otherwise, it's an absolutely irrelevant and completely unserious action.

Can't believe some of you are falling for the Democrat line of "I don't take lobbyist or PAC money." Folks, it's not 2005 anymore. Small donors are where it is at. Not PACs or lobbyist contributions. You can send 5-6 small donor fundraising emails a day and you never have to worry about being held to account for votes. There's plenty of suckers willing to part with $5 or $10 for the most newsworthy story of the day. Even if they get mad at you they'll come back next time you do something like, say, try to push the Speaker out.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:42:12 PM EST
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I have concerns due to Massie's comments.  He is a smart dude and on the side of gun owners and non trusters of big givernment.  I met him years back and have followed his journey.  Deep inside, not knowing all the facts, McCarthy said screw you to alot of people and paid the price.  The dems that voted against McCarthy just all ban together like sheep to stick a knife in any Republican they can find. The story to me is that McCarthy thought working with the dems would earn him allies.  He should have known better.
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 7:42:43 PM EST
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Perhaps this is the beginning kalifornians will not be able to fuck up the country anymore.

Since Gaetz had the balls to do what was needed Gaetz should be nominated and voted on. Will be the first round of voting will tell the tale.

I will go with when government does nothing and is gridlocked nothing can be done to make it worse.


"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." MTwain
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