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Link Posted: 5/9/2019 3:17:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2019 3:21:54 PM EDT
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A nice, docile population.

Feed them crap TV, sportsball, manipulated music, alcohol, drugs and everything else to keep them busy when they are not working.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 4:40:09 PM EDT
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I expect the folk music and Grateful Dead jam bands to get a hell of a lot more interesting on the front range.
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Like Phish Dicks Labor Day Weekend ?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 4:44:21 PM EDT
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A nice, docile population.

Feed them crap TV, sportsball, manipulated music, alcohol, drugs and everything else to keep them busy when they are not working.
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I would venture to say that someone who indulges in that would gravitate toward the opposite direction.  Many people gain insight with that stuff that changes their lives.  Yes, there are risks - it can accelerate or uncover latent psychological problems, most notably schizophrenia.

The research that MAPS has done is legit, credible, and not politically motivated.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 4:45:46 PM EDT
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DENVER  A measure to decriminalize psilocybin mushrooms in the city of Denver passed by a thin margin, election officials confirmed Wednesday.
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And yet I still have no interest in trying them.  Odd....
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 4:55:35 PM EDT
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I landed in Denver yesterday.

Things have gone south quickly. Between the mushrooms and snow, the city is falling apart.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:10:59 PM EDT
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I wonder what the voter turnout was like.
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

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Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:14:46 PM EDT
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
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Freedom is scary
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:23:48 PM EDT
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Spores have always been legal, since they contain no psilocybin. You can buy them legally on the internet.

I had a lot of fun growing gourmet mushrooms. Growing shrooms would be just as easy.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:24:50 PM EDT
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2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
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Same place they get funding to buy legal hamburgers.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:31:19 PM EDT
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
Freedom is scary
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passing canabis map
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 5:36:21 PM EDT
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
Freedom is scary
party affiliation map

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/08e5814b21327723a23d46468e9f4dc8e5f7e15f/c=7-0-629-468/local/-/media/FortCollins/None/2014/10/16/635490821563348930-Colorado-County-Voter-Party-10-1014.JPG?width=534&height=401&fit=crop
passing canabis map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg/1200px-Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg.png
And that has what bearing on whether or not you should be free to possess a plant that will grown in a ditch?
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 6:11:05 PM EDT
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I just took a course from one of the heads of the medical examiners office in colorado. The number of bodies involved in traffic fatalities with measurable mj metabolites is way way up.

One of the main problems is... I forget what the term for them he used was, but people unfamiliar with dope use are getting into a lot of trouble with edibles. Says, pot is a LOT stronger than the 70's, and brownies/gummy bears/whatever have to be viewed as 'doses' and not 'fatbody cram a bunch in your mouths'.

As a result, people eat one piece of the cookie, it doesn't take as quickly as they like, and they wind up eating the entire cookie/couple cookies or whatever. Resultant mental state has contributed to a few deaths, most public was the kid that took the header off the hotel balcony.

Either no, or one fatality directly related to OD of MJ, but a new trend is death from continual puking tied to chronic use of MJ. They call it "Cannabinoid hyperemesis / cyclic vomiting syndrome"

There was more, but it didn't really stick
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I just took a course from one of the heads of the medical examiners office in colorado. The number of bodies involved in traffic fatalities with measurable mj metabolites is way way up.

One of the main problems is... I forget what the term for them he used was, but people unfamiliar with dope use are getting into a lot of trouble with edibles. Says, pot is a LOT stronger than the 70's, and brownies/gummy bears/whatever have to be viewed as 'doses' and not 'fatbody cram a bunch in your mouths'.

As a result, people eat one piece of the cookie, it doesn't take as quickly as they like, and they wind up eating the entire cookie/couple cookies or whatever. Resultant mental state has contributed to a few deaths, most public was the kid that took the header off the hotel balcony.

Either no, or one fatality directly related to OD of MJ, but a new trend is death from continual puking tied to chronic use of MJ. They call it "Cannabinoid hyperemesis / cyclic vomiting syndrome"

There was more, but it didn't really stick
I am sure it's a steep learning curve for a lot of people. You know one of the main reasons for that? How about the fact that it's not only illegal but listed as a schedule 1 drug. That's insane to me and I would love for someone to try and rationalize that. Worse than cocaine. That classification makes it almost impossible to find out the truth out about legitimate uses. Just getting it rescheduled would be a huge step forward.
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Isn't it odd how all of a sudden pot and "magic mushrooms" are miracle drugs? Fuck, who knows, heroine will probably cure cancer, meth will end third-world hunger, and cocaine will bring world peace. Hurrah!
People like you with your head in the sand aren't any better than the potheads that think it cures everything. They have already found some legitimate uses for Marijuana and/or specific parts of it.
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Mushrooms also cause people to do stupid things....

"Billings man accused of shooting, killing friend after mushroom trip"

https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/crime-and-courts/billings-man-accused-of-shooting-killing-friend-after-mushroom-trip/article_38a82a03-6d6b-5522-ac46-8722d44a20f8.html

"An Oregon man who told police he was under the influence of hallucinogenic mushrooms punched a 71-year-old woman Sunday as she loaded groceries into her truck."

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/oregon-man-high-on-mushrooms-punches-71yearold-woman-deputies-say/932379101

"Suburban Philadelphia Man Sentenced for Killing Friend in Mushroom-Induced Rage"

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Man-Sentenced-for-Killing-Friend-in-Mushroom-Induced-Rage-286473581.html

"A 25-year-old Purdue University graduate who was killed Sunday night was shot by a man in a hallucinogenic-mushrooms-fueled trip, court documents allege"

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/12/man-tripping-mushrooms-fatally-shot-friend-documents-allege/70209500/

"A Northern California mixed-martial artist accused of ripping out his friend’s heart and removing his tongue while the two were on hallucinogenic drugs has pleaded guilty to murder and mayhem charges. Witnesses say the two had ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms before the attack and believed they were involved in a struggle between God and the devil."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/california-mma-fighter-jarrod-wyatt-accused-ripping-friend-heard-tongue-pleads-guilty-murder-article-1.1154835

"Police: Blandon man high on mushrooms stabs woman, kills rabbit"

http://www.wfmz.com/news/berks/police-blandon-man-high-on-mushrooms-stabs-woman-kills-rabbit/19950589

"Day after he allegedly kills best friend while high on mushrooms, Northland teen goes before judge"

https://fox4kc.com/2017/06/26/day-after-he-allegedly-kills-best-friend-while-high-on-mushrooms-northland-teen-goes-before-judge/

"A teacher repeatedly stabbed himself in the neck with a broken bottle while high on magic mushrooms, an inquest heard."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2798443/Teacher-stabbed-himself-to-death-while-high-on-magic-mushrooms.html

"Police say York man took psychedelic mushrooms before killing cat"

https://www.centralmaine.com/2018/09/07/police-say-man-took-psychedelic-mushrooms-before-killing-cat/

"A monthlong jury trial ended Thursday with a Vacaville man being found guilty of second-degree murder and attempted murder for a 2010 late-night shooting spree in a Vacaville apartment among four friends who were all high on psilocybin mushrooms."

https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/solano-news/crime-solano-county-courts/jury-convicts-man-who-shot-friends-while-high-on-mushrooms/
I'll tell you what. Lets make a list of all the people killed involving mushrooms then make a list with those killed involving alchohol or maybe tobacco. It's a silly argument.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:10:27 PM EDT
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

When what you're doing hurts someone or is so dangerous it's likely to hurt someone.

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?

WTF?  No afford, no smokey.
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I wonder what the voter turnout was like.
I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

When what you're doing hurts someone or is so dangerous it's likely to hurt someone.

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?

WTF?  No afford, no smokey.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:45:42 PM EDT
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The legislature specifically allowed “swipe yo EBT” for so-called medical pot.  It was on the news back in the day, IIRC they can’t get cash using ENT from the ATM at liquor stores and gun shops.

Begging had never been more popular, sharpie-on-cardboard signs now say things like MMJ and “anything green”

Link Posted: 5/9/2019 7:51:59 PM EDT
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Also map is incorrect in at least one instance, El Paso County voted down Amend64 by 3300 votes

http://data.denverpost.com/election/results/amendment/2012/64-legalize-marijuana/
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 10:10:51 PM EDT
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And that has what bearing on whether or not you should be free to possess a plant that will grown in a ditch?
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
Freedom is scary
party affiliation map

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/08e5814b21327723a23d46468e9f4dc8e5f7e15f/c=7-0-629-468/local/-/media/FortCollins/None/2014/10/16/635490821563348930-Colorado-County-Voter-Party-10-1014.JPG?width=534&height=401&fit=crop
passing canabis map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg/1200px-Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg.png
And that has what bearing on whether or not you should be free to possess a plant that will grown in a ditch?
People are only for freedoms that they associate with "their side". They are not for ALL freedoms; especially freedoms for their political opponents. They will fuck them as hard as they can and strip every freedom they can from them as long as they get to keep the freedoms THEY like.

It's not about the substance; it's a perceived punishment against their enemies.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 10:15:18 PM EDT
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People are only for freedoms that they associate with "their side". They are not for ALL freedoms; especially freedoms for their political opponents. They will fuck them as hard as they can and strip every freedom they can from them as long as they get to keep the freedoms THEY like.

It's not about the substance; it's a perceived punishment against their enemies.
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I can answer this, I clipped a slide from that presentation I watched

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/17550/Annotation_2019-05-07_012443_jpg-939828.JPG

Two questions to all the pro-dopers/I can control my habitsers/what I do doesn't affect othersers

1 - When does your right to personal freedom end and others begin?

2- Where does a person that couldn't afford illegal weed get funding to afford legal weed?
Freedom is scary
party affiliation map

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/08e5814b21327723a23d46468e9f4dc8e5f7e15f/c=7-0-629-468/local/-/media/FortCollins/None/2014/10/16/635490821563348930-Colorado-County-Voter-Party-10-1014.JPG?width=534&height=401&fit=crop
passing canabis map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg/1200px-Colorado_Amendment_64_map.svg.png
And that has what bearing on whether or not you should be free to possess a plant that will grown in a ditch?
People are only for freedoms that they associate with "their side". They are not for ALL freedoms; especially freedoms for their political opponents. They will fuck them as hard as they can and strip every freedom they can from them as long as they get to keep the freedoms THEY like.

It's not about the substance; it's a perceived punishment against their enemies.
It reminds me a lot of pro choice people mentioning how most abortions are future democrats like that will magically the mind of the pro life people. Freedom really does scare people.
Link Posted: 5/9/2019 10:43:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/9/2019 11:10:00 PM EDT
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I don't care.

However, if they OD or eat bad shrooms let Darwin do his job.
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OD? Really? I can understand not wanting to use certain psychoactive drugs but to be so ignorant about them is just sad.

"Psilocybin is one of the least toxic of all hallucinogens. While a full effective dose is 10 mg., its LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of the sample) in the mouse is 280 mg./kg. of body weight. (Schultes & Hofmann, 1973)."

"Psilocybin makes up roughly 1% of the weight of Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, and so nearly 1.7 kilograms of dried mushrooms, or 17 kilograms of fresh mushrooms, would be required for a 60 kg person to reach the 280 mg/kg LD50 rate of rats."
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