Ha!  I was wondering if it would fit in my lawnmower.

You should be aware, there's a whole lot more to meeting emissions than cats and mufflers, and there's a whole lot more than just making "416" hp to what mb buyers expect from a motor. Not just the motor, but the whole car needs to take that level of performance in mind.

If it was that easy every manufacturer would have have these kinda cars out.

Gave me a chub.

I was watching a vid on the machining of the Wright Flyer engine. 203 cu in, making 14-16 hp.  We've come a long way.

Groovy

That ia pretty cool...BUT.....has anyone seen the new RS models of Audi doing 9s on a stock turbo. Mmmm Audi goodness.

Models for reference:

Audi TT RS
Audi RS3

Not only are they trapping 140s in the quarter. They are also destroying super cars in the half mile events. These are also auto x cars and can drive home with AC.

5 cylinders, no?

neat, but for how long? it will break someday.

Huh?

@Htown156 same brother, same.

To be fair to the Germans there engines and transmissions are very good it's the other shit that annoys people like the price of parts and silly electrical gremlins
don't forget all those parts are made in Europe so thats why parts are expensive .

You should be aware that there are plenty of built 207 cars in California.... I know we're bench racing, but it's being lauded for it's numbers alone.  I'm just pointing out, it isn't that impressive to me.  From a Subaru background.

Not really, that thing won't last past the factory warranty, it will drop in value like a rock, and become an endless money pit to keep on the road.

M-B has jumped the shark on reliability.

Hard pass.

Yes, they sound amazing too

people crying about turbo lag but not knowing that twin-scroll turbos be doing things they way they be doing

Impressive technology.

I'll continue to put my money towards engines that aren't buzzy, laggy, and driving the wrong wheels, though.

Awd cars are driving with the wrong wheels?

Europeans and forced induction non-diesel engines have had a long unhealthy relationship. The resale value of these new German turbo-mouse engine cars after they are out of warranty is going to be laughable.  In their defense, parts for Eurocars are a lot cheaper over there than here.

Dude, 400hp from a turbo 4 isn't that big of a deal to me either. back in the mid 2000's 1.8t's with a 3071R would do that, I built multiple 1.8t's in the 350hp range. I've also installed APR stg 3 kits on golf R's, pushing out over 500HP. yeah they're fast, and reliable, but there is no way the engine in that form would leave the factory, too much lag, the power comes on way to strong, everything that had to be beefed up to take the power like motor mounts made the vehicle unacceptable as a production car, too much noise, too much vibration.

I know what goes into making a angry little turbo motor work... knowing what I know is why I find MB's motor so impressive.

400hp from a motor that meets or exceeds current federal emissions standards, along with having the smoothness, power delivery, economy, reliability for MB to use in a production vehicle is a engineering feat. dude "Cats and mufflers" alone aren't how a engine meets emissions standards.

just cause people in CA are passing simple tests doesn't mean that engine is anywhere NEAR what the manufacture had to do to get certification, hot rodded engines in any way are so far off from what was required to be certified its not even funny. a different air filter can ruin the OEM's tuning, never mind a bigger turbo.

I'm point out, as an automotive professional, this motor is impressive.

Ok, so you replate it.

not really, you just put in sleeves and put in rings that are for steel sleeves. Which is really not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Plus iron sleeves are going to be stronk AF

In the outboard world Nikasil was the shit in 2 strokes back in the day. But when you toasted a cylinder, you just threw in a sleeve.

They plasma line the 4 stroke outboards now too.