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Effectively the same thing I already have as my primary M/C, a Yamaha Super Tenere - except it would be the ES model, as they dropped the standard like I have, and we aren't considering cost here. (Which is why I didn't go for the ES in the first place. True dynamic suspension I would have paid the difference for, but just electronically-adjusted at a stop wasn't worth it to me.)
ETA - As it was, my Tenere replaced two other motorcycles; a Ducati ST2 (for touring) and a Ducati Scrambler (for slightly-off-the-beaten-path). I first test rode a SuperTen when they introduced the second gen, and was immediately impressed by it. A few years later, I test rode one again on a whim, and set out to buy one as soon as the test ride was over. |
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If your job sends you around the country a motorcycle would not work unless you did not need anything larger or heavier than a laptop.
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Quoted: Stay away from anything KTM, their maintainence routine is rediculous. Sounds like you need something dependable, and not too small if you need to pack groceries/parts on it. I'd go with others that recommend a Honda Goldwing, or some other bagger. You are going to want something big and comfortable, with enough aero to keep most the wind/rain off of you. Stay away from Harleys, or KTM's, just not dependable enough. Think metric cruiser, with plenty of wind protection and big bags. View Quote I read this and was bummed at first when I saw the rip on KTM, then i read down to where it said Harleys aren't reliable. Thats not true so I guess I won't worry about the KTM's either. |
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Quoted: Stay away from anything KTM, their maintainence routine is rediculous. Think metric cruiser, with plenty of wind protection and big bags. View Quote Bullshit. The 1290 Super Adventure R service is 9k mile oil changes (too long IMO) and 18k mile valve clearance check (most go much longer before shims are needed). Everything else is on par with the Japanese brands. Cruisers with a laid back riding position are definitely not comfortable for long distances, and they don't handle well and are typically underpowered to boot. Besides my 1290 I would recommend the 1250 GSA, the Gold Wing, the Honda Africa Twin, and the BMW K1600 (buy a warranty with it). |
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Given your criteria that long road trips are possible or even likely, the only choice is a Goldwing.
One bike to fit my current lifestyle where work is 5 minutes away? S1000RR |
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Honda Africa Twin 1100.
Reasons: Honda reliability dealer network cruise control Apple Carplay & Android Auto supported goes anywhere (within reason) 87 octane fuel massive aftermarket support |
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Quoted: I am a total Harley guy, but this one really interests me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19799/bmw-r18-cruiser-motorcycle-1_jpg-1348884-2839270.JPG View Quote Yep but with bobber seat. Kinda want one. |
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Quoted: Harley bros stay out of this thread; you're annoying and should feel bad. View Quote Such hate! LMAO! I will take a KTM 1290 Super Duke with side bags. A close second would be my 2020 H-D CVO Limited. 36,500 miles on it - all put on by ME. It has never had one issue in nearly four years. And parts are readily available with plenty of places to get it fixed. While I choose the KTM first, you would not want to be in the middle of KS and break down. |
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Quoted: For pure fun, I've never wanted a motard so bad as watching those crazy fucks rip through deals gap. View Quote Living in Middle TN I ride to the mountains all the time. Depending on where you are headed that day, you literally have no choice but to ride the Tail of the Dragon - or go way outta the way and ride the Cherohala Skyway. I hate Deals Gap and the TofTD. Between the inexperienced crotch rocket riders and the young kids with their Subaru WRXs, you take your life in your hands - not matter how experienced a rider you are. FFS. |
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Quoted: Honda Africa Twin 1100. Reasons: Honda reliability dealer network cruise control Apple Carplay & Android Auto supported goes anywhere (within reason) 87 octane fuel massive aftermarket support View Quote Uh... did they ever fix the fork issues on the first gens? I don't think it carried over to the second gens, but just pointing out that Honda even has some misses (and they are actually notoriously bad about not addressing them when they do happen). Good to see they finally added CC with the second gens. I don't get why so many M/C manufacturers have been so hesitant to add it, especially when many models have already been TBW for many years. |
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Quoted: Uh... did they ever fix the fork issues on the first gens? I don't think it carried over to the second gens, but just pointing out that Honda even has some misses (and they are actually notoriously bad about not addressing them when they do happen). Good to see they finally added CC with the second gens. I don't get why so many M/C manufacturers have been so hesitant to add it, especially when many models have already been TBW for many years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Honda Africa Twin 1100. Reasons: Honda reliability dealer network cruise control Apple Carplay & Android Auto supported goes anywhere (within reason) 87 octane fuel massive aftermarket support Uh... did they ever fix the fork issues on the first gens? I don't think it carried over to the second gens, but just pointing out that Honda even has some misses (and they are actually notoriously bad about not addressing them when they do happen). Good to see they finally added CC with the second gens. I don't get why so many M/C manufacturers have been so hesitant to add it, especially when many models have already been TBW for many years. I've got a 2022 standard model, manual trans. with nearly 12,000 miles. The front wheel leaves the ground multiple times every time I ride, either from wheelies or jumps. I've never had a problem, but I know others have. |
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Quoted: I read this and was bummed at first when I saw the rip on KTM, then i read down to where it said Harleys aren't reliable. Thats not true so I guess I won't worry about the KTM's either. View Quote I have had dozens of Harleys over the years. I have had a couple that gave me minor issues - but they were due to serious builds I did or paid to have done. To throw a blanket statement out that Harleys are not reliable means you probably have never owned one - or the last one you owned was a pre EVO AMF piece of shit. |
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Quoted: Money is no object and you’ll get that? View Quote My DR is about to carry me coast to coast in 18 days while my GSA stays home. I think it really depends on the end goal. If I was traveling for work and making good time was a real consideration it would be the BMW. If it was one bike that I needed to do any or everything and the world was falling apart…the DR650. |
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I've got a Tiger 800 XC that I really like... but I'd love to try the '23 Norden (or the 890 Adv)
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Quoted: I've got a 2022 standard model, manual trans. with nearly 12,000 miles. The front wheel leaves the ground multiple times every time I ride, either from wheelies or jumps. I've never had a problem, but I know others have. View Quote 2nd gen for the AT is 2020+. I have not heard of issues with the 2nd gens, but I am not really active in the ADV community anymore. The first gens (2016-2019) had a well-documented issue with premature fork wear. They also didn't have CC. |
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Quoted: I would wager almost as many Bun Burners have been done on GSA as have been done on Gold Wings. View Quote In the past ten to fifteen years likely far more GS than Goldwing. I have never ridden a Goldwing but I am sure they are nice. I just think they would be a bit limiting for me in my riding. |
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Quoted: I am a total Harley guy, but this one really interests me. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19799/bmw-r18-cruiser-motorcycle-1_jpg-1348884-2839270.JPG View Quote It’s really interesting to see this post and a few others mentioning the R18. I own one, bought new. The suspension sucks big time. it doesn’t absorb bumps past a few inches and transfers them to your spine instead. I’ve caught air between my butt and the seat from just riding over a hump. It needs a new rear shock and heavier fork oil up front. That said, I love it. It’s beyond gorgeous in person, and I get compliments every time I ride it. It is polished-all the things that tick you off about motorcycles, it fixes. It has 0 herky-jerky chain slop abrupt throttle crap, and oozes quality in every single part. It’s the best built bike out there period. If you get one, get reverse…. |
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My answer is a Harley Street Glide or Road Glide limited, because that's what I know. The Tri-Glide or Road Glide 3 would be great due to the extra trunk space and stability when slow or stopped.
I would also consider a Gold Wing or Indian Challenger Pursuit. The large adventure bikes, especially the BWM GS, are also appealing but I have no experience with them. |
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Quoted: Ducati Desert-X or KTM 890 Adventure R https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187410/desertX_JPG-2839384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/187410/ktm_JPG-2839385.JPG View Quote I love KTMs. But WTF is going on with the ugly headlights?? I mean seriously. FFS |
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Bikes are like potato chips...you cant have just one.
I have a cruiser at the moment...but id like to add a sport bike and a bagger/touring bike to the mix. Different things for different days. Some times I want to go 25 mph into town. Some times i want to bank turns at 100 mph. Some times i want to load up some supplies and ride for a thousand miles. If i could only have one, it would be a touring bike. In my perfect world, id have four...a copper for cruising around town, a true cruiser for local riding, a street bike for precision riding, and a big ass bagger for long haul. |
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I've been watching this thread this evening. I voted for a KTM 1290 Super Duke with a close second being my 2020 CVO Limited. After seeing all you young punks put up your little bikes, I have changed my mind. I will stick with my 1000# dump truck Harley. It's comfortable AF and I can stretch out. I have my adventure bikes, but they are for certain days. If I only had one, I'll take that big, slow bagger.
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Quoted: This. Everything else is a far distant second place. View Quote 100% Are Harley guys that ignorant or is it beyond their comprehension. GSA- great power, adjustable abs, adjustable traction control, adjustable suspension height, adjustable wheelie control, 7 ride modes, heated grips, heated seats, heated suit plugs, universal pannier attachment system, quick shift, on or off road ridding, great handling and lighter than a HD Harley “Astro Glide”- SHINNY and if you change everything possible it’s at best half a factory GSA and still sounds like obsolete junk running. Least reliable and inefficient engines made. |
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Quoted: 100% Are Harley guys that ignorant or is it beyond their comprehension. GSA- great power, adjustable abs, adjustable traction control, adjustable suspension height, adjustable wheelie control, 7 ride modes, heated grips, heated seats, heated suit plugs, universal pannier attachment system, quick shift, on or off road ridding, great handling and lighter than a HD Harley “Astro Glide”- SHINNY and if you change everything possible it’s at best half a factory GSA and still sounds like obsolete junk running. Least reliable and inefficient engines made. View Quote I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. |
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This. |
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Quoted: Africa Twin Super Tenere KTM Adventure 890 or larger View Quote One of those is the only thing missing from my stable. My 3 1/2 seasons bikes are Concours 14s. An 08 for when it's very cold out, and a 12 for warmer weather stuff. The half season is when there's snow on the road. A GSA or any of the above will definitely get the nod for riding in that. |
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Quoted: I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 100% Are Harley guys that ignorant or is it beyond their comprehension. GSA- great power, adjustable abs, adjustable traction control, adjustable suspension height, adjustable wheelie control, 7 ride modes, heated grips, heated seats, heated suit plugs, universal pannier attachment system, quick shift, on or off road ridding, great handling and lighter than a HD Harley "Astro Glide"- SHINNY and if you change everything possible it's at best half a factory GSA and still sounds like obsolete junk running. Least reliable and inefficient engines made. I've never understood the Harley hate some have. You guys make it sound like they break every day and can't get out of their own way yet 100's of thousands of miles are put on them every year. |
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Quoted: I have had dozens of Harleys over the years. I have had a couple that gave me minor issues - but they were due to serious builds I did or paid to have done. To throw a blanket statement out that Harleys are not reliable means you probably have never owned one - or the last one you owned was a pre EVO AMF piece of shit. View Quote My cousin has three HD's. One (pick one) is always in the shop, he's riding one & the third is waiting to go to the shop for repairs. There's ALWAYS something wrong with all three of them at any given time. Your love of HD doesn't change the facts about their reliability. |
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