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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:29:46 PM EDT
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My predictions of Trump being full of shit based on his past actions of being full of shit have been quite spot on. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:31:21 PM EDT
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You do know who basically headed the Obama birth certificate crowd right?  |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:31:49 PM EDT
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My predictions of Trump being full of shit based on his past actions of being full of shit have been quite spot on. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:34:21 PM EDT
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My predictions of Trump being full of shit based on his past actions of being full of shit have been quite spot on. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:35:40 PM EDT
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I'll take an entertaining bull shit artist as opposed to a despicable collection of discredited neocon McCarthyite MF's. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do know who basically headed the Obama birth certificate crowd right?
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:48:04 PM EDT
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Really was worth dragging the entire party down to birther bullshit wasn't it? Look at all the progress that has been made! We have a con-artist in charge who can't get anything done and his entire administration is lawyered up in the first year! #winning Hillary should expect more millions from them. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:49:07 PM EDT
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut:
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:54:58 PM EDT
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The Russians are very impressed with your "progress". Hillary should expect more millions from them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really was worth dragging the entire party down to birther bullshit wasn't it? Look at all the progress that has been made! We have a con-artist in charge who can't get anything done and his entire administration is lawyered up in the first year! #winning Hillary should expect more millions from them. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:04:41 PM EDT
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:06:45 PM EDT
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What we can be certain of is that hideous DWS did not even notify anyone of the alleged "hack" for an inordinate amount of time.
What we are certain of is that our magnificent FBI was never allowed to examine the servers that were allegedly "hacked". What we are also certain of is that this dubious "Crowd Strike" organization was founded by, and is headed by, an anti Putin Russian. Quite a series of "coincidences". |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:07:16 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really was worth dragging the entire party down to birther bullshit wasn't it? Look at all the progress that has been made! We have a con-artist in charge who can't get anything done and his entire administration is lawyered up in the first year! #winning Hillary should expect more millions from them. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:07:50 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:12:58 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:13:33 PM EDT
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I love this thread so much! It's like a bowl of chili (with beans) on a cold day. It's a cold beer on a hot day. The desperation and butthurt gets me through my day!
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:14:34 PM EDT
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The server itself wouldn't be the best source for understanding what data was exfiltrated by whom. The fact that a national organization like the DNC was successfully attacked by any number of named threat sets isn't a surprise with the clowns they had running the place. The fact that they had been owned by someone likely to be a nation state actor however doesn't necessarily mean that they were the ones that exfiltrated the data, it's then another leap to declare that they were also the ones that released it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:15:36 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." https://www.thedailybeast.com/congress-trump-wont-implement-russia-sanctionsand-he-wont-tell-us-why |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:15:45 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:16:50 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:20:04 PM EDT
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So we have to work together diplomatically to fix the issues that led us to using economic leverage on them in the first place? That's...um, how you work to get off of sanctions which is generally the goal. Carrot and stick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." Boom! SAD! |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:21:43 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." Any other citations? Links to BS fake news sites? |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:23:22 PM EDT
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So we have to work together diplomatically to fix the issues that led us to using economic leverage on them in the first place? That's...um, how you work to get off of sanctions which is generally the goal. Carrot and stick. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:23:45 PM EDT
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Really was worth dragging the entire party down to birther bullshit wasn't it? Look at all the progress that has been made! We have a con-artist in charge who can't get anything done and his entire administration is lawyered up in the first year! #winning Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:23:47 PM EDT
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The "leap" you speak of has already been made by the IC. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. But even if it absolutely was the Russians and they posted the information publically and openly, they are facts. What was released was unethical behavior that the DNC has never once claimed was false or manipulated. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:25:11 PM EDT
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I bet a few hundred million dollars "donated" to the Clinton's phoney "phoundation" would get those sanctions on the Russians lifted real quick.
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:25:56 PM EDT
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Well they could start by not invading their neighbors and not shooting down civilian airliners, but these are high hurdles to climb apparently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:27:05 PM EDT
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Trump's also refusing (thus far) to implement the sanctions package on Russia that Congress passed earlier this summer. https://www.thedailybeast.com/congress-trump-wont-implement-russia-sanctionsand-he-wont-tell-us-why Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." https://www.thedailybeast.com/congress-trump-wont-implement-russia-sanctionsand-he-wont-tell-us-why |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:30:11 PM EDT
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As soon as you build a time machine so we can change past events please share it so that those things can be made to not happen. Under the TS doctrine we would still be hostile with England for their actions in 1812. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:33:00 PM EDT
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@Top_Secret
I asked in another thread. You have the logos for CW. Did you participate in the activities or stand in the parking lot, taking pictures of license plates? |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:33:25 PM EDT
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Well they could start by not invading their neighbors and not shooting down civilian airliners, but these are high hurdles to climb apparently. Also, your Ukrainian Nazi buddies are the ones with a history of shooting down civilian airliners. Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 was a commercial flight shot down by the Ukrainian Air Force over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The aircraft, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. Most of the passengers were Israelis visiting relatives in Russia. link |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:33:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:34:29 PM EDT
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3 years ago is basically the same thing as 205 right? Not like they are presently still invading them or anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:34:55 PM EDT
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You may choose to believe the Obama administration's department heads' reports without the facts to go behind it. It's still just a guess without a smoking gun. But even if it absolutely was the Russians and they posted the information publically and openly, they are facts. What was released was unethical behavior that the DNC has never once claimed was false or manipulated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. But even if it absolutely was the Russians and they posted the information publically and openly, they are facts. What was released was unethical behavior that the DNC has never once claimed was false or manipulated. Plus you've got the Republicans and Democrats who have seen the classified version of the report who have all accepted the report's conclusions. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:35:08 PM EDT
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Crimea was part of the Russian empire for centuries. The people there want to be part of Russia. Not that any of that matters to troublemaking neocon globetrotters. Also, your Ukrainian Nazi buddies are the ones with a history of shooting down civilian airliners. Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 was a commercial flight shot down by the Ukrainian Air Force over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The aircraft, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. Most of the passengers were Israelis visiting relatives in Russia. link Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well they could start by not invading their neighbors and not shooting down civilian airliners, but these are high hurdles to climb apparently. Also, your Ukrainian Nazi buddies are the ones with a history of shooting down civilian airliners. Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 was a commercial flight shot down by the Ukrainian Air Force over the Black Sea on 4 October 2001, en route from Tel Aviv, Israel to Novosibirsk, Russia. The aircraft, a Soviet-made Tupolev Tu-154, carried an estimated 66 passengers and 12 crew members. Most of the passengers were Israelis visiting relatives in Russia. link 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:35:39 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:36:41 PM EDT
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Reminder: The conclusions of the ONI report have also been accepted by Trump's IC heads. Occasionally by Trump, too. Plus you've got the Republicans and Democrats who have seen the classified version of the report who have all accepted the report's conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. But even if it absolutely was the Russians and they posted the information publically and openly, they are facts. What was released was unethical behavior that the DNC has never once claimed was false or manipulated. Plus you've got the Republicans and Democrats who have seen the classified version of the report who have all accepted the report's conclusions. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:37:37 PM EDT
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Reminder: The conclusions of the ONI report have also been accepted by Trump's IC heads. Occasionally by Trump, too. Plus you've got the Republicans and Democrats who have seen the classified version of the report who have all accepted the report's conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Since someone brought up the silly "analysis" by the anonymous "The Forensicator" nut: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/346468-why-the-latest-theory-about-the-dnc-not-being-a-hack-is-probably-wrong I'd also add that no actual expert would rely on just the MAC times of a series of files to draw any sort of major conclusions without having access to the original file system(s). Especially when you knew the files were copied/transferred an unknown number of times by an unknown number of entities prior to being released. I'd trust the MAC times even less if I knew one of the groups that had touched the files was APT 29. I stand by my point that the "report" by "The Forensicator" was technical-sounding gobbledygook. But even if it absolutely was the Russians and they posted the information publically and openly, they are facts. What was released was unethical behavior that the DNC has never once claimed was false or manipulated. Plus you've got the Republicans and Democrats who have seen the classified version of the report who have all accepted the report's conclusions. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:38:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:42:57 PM EDT
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." Although I guess we could try perpetual economic sanctions while simply ignoring them diplomatically, that made Fidel Castro lose power rather quickly. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:45:16 PM EDT
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You two should worry more about the domestic democrat problems. Russia is the least of your worries. Seriously |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:46:35 PM EDT
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In the Presidential Debate in 2012, Barack Obama told Mitt Romney Russia wasn't a threat, and the 1980s wanted their foreign policy back.
Oh, how the media and liberals laughed and praised Obama for his witty retort, while calling Romney a buffoon. Russia is no threat, we "Reset" our relationship! Was Obama so stupid and unfit for office, that he had no idea Russia WAS a threat, and would go on to totally destroy our democrstic process and expose the Dems for the crooks they are? Or did he knowingly and willfully lie in order to win that debate, and get back on top of the polls? So, is Russia a threat to America, or is it not? Maybe Obama was just "misinformed", or maybe he should have went to his security briefings more often. And maybe this whole "Muh Russia" is just butthurt bullshit. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:47:13 PM EDT
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Top secret and Bullets You two should worry more about the domestic democrat problems. Russia is the least of your worries. Seriously Sad! |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:48:46 PM EDT
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They did something in the past that can't be changed now. So yes, basically the same thing. The only thing you can actually hope to change is current and future behaviors. To do that you have carrots and sticks in the Diplomatic, Information, Military, and Economic realms. What we are trying to get is Russia to change their military behavior and have put in place an economic stick. What Trump is now proposing is a diplomatic and economic carrot to get them to change. Although I guess we could try perpetual economic sanctions while simply ignoring them diplomatically, that made Fidel Castro lose power rather quickly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would they give her more? Trump is the one that wants to lift sanctions on them. President Donald Trump suggested in Vietnam on Sunday that US sanctions against Russia are too tough and that he prefers being on more amicable terms with the Kremlin.
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," he added. "And you know, people don't realize Russia has been very, very heavily sanctioned," he said. "They were sanctioned at a very high level, and that took place very recently. It's now time to get back to healing a world that is shattered and broken." Although I guess we could try perpetual economic sanctions while simply ignoring them diplomatically, that made Fidel Castro lose power rather quickly. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:57:57 PM EDT
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Good job, you hit all the Kremlin talking points. Too bad HL is not around to see all the current examples of his splendid observation. "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." ---H. L. Mencken |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 1:59:14 PM EDT
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It isn't just the past. They are still actively invading another country and Trump is calling to lift sanctions on them. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:14:41 PM EDT
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It isn't just the past. They are still actively invading another country and Trump is calling to lift sanctions on them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
It isn't just the past. They are still actively invading another country and Trump is calling to lift sanctions on them. 
"What I believe is that we have to get to work," Trump said. "And I think everybody understood this that heard the answer. We have to get to work to solve Syria, to solve North Korea, to solve Ukraine, to solve terrorism," |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:22:22 PM EDT
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Probably but isn't that something an Attorney General could probably find out.............do we have an Attorney General? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Really weird it was just a few weeks after a meeting his son, son-in-law, and campaign manager had with Russians to get dirt on Hillary. Originally Posted By :
I know it's fashionable here to claim the Russia "story" is dead - however there's been quite a bit of activity over the last week that's been rather under-reported due to other pressing national stories. It looks like Mueller and his gang are slowly pressing on with their investigation into both Flynn and Manafort as seen below. I figured it would be easier to dump updates into one thread so that anyone worried about "NeverTrumpers" that "troll" other threads can simply avoid this one. 
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/348046-mueller-subpoenas-six-manafort-linked-pr-firms-report Special counsel Robert Mueller has issued grand jury subpoenas for public relations firms that worked on an international campaign organized by former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, according to NBC News.
The move is the first public indication that Mueller’s team is beginning to compel testimony from witnesses — and suggests that Manafort may be in serious legal peril. The six firms participated in a public relations effort headed by Manafort, whose ostensible mission was building support for Ukraine’s entry into the European Union, one executive whose firm received a subpoena told NBC News. http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-subpoenas-firms-who-worked-with-flynn-manafort-consulting-groups-2017-8 Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has subpoenaed a number of Washington lobbying firms as part of its investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign colluded with Moscow to tilt the 2016 election in his favor, The Washington Post reported on Friday.
The firms that were subpoenaed have been associated with consulting firms led by former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. Both Flynn and Manafort are being scrutinized as part of the Russia investigation. Manafort left the Trump campaign last August, and Flynn was forced to resign as national security adviser in February, when it emerged that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence about his contacts with Sergey Kislyak, the former Russian ambassador to the US. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-tower-putin-felix-sater.html A business associate of President Trump promised in 2015 to engineer a real estate deal with the aid of the president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, that he said would help Mr. Trump win the presidency.
The business associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Mr. Putin and predicted that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would be a political boon to Mr. Trump’s candidacy. “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.” The emails show that, from the earliest months of Mr. Trump’s campaign, some of his associates viewed close ties with Moscow as a political advantage. Those ties are now under investigation by the Justice Department and multiple congressional committees. 
In other words, and to paraphrase Monty Python: "Not dead yet!" |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:24:04 PM EDT
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It's like you didn't even read your own "gotcha" post. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:25:56 PM EDT
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How does easing sanctions on a Russia for invading Ukraine solve anything?
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:40:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWell most of the time there is supposed to be an act of good faith on the part of those being sanctioned before they get relief for the bad acts committed. Talking sanctions relief would be appropriate after they withdraw from Crimea and Donbass. Nothing suspect about Trump wanting to give them sanctions relief in return for well, nothing apparently. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 2:49:16 PM EDT
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What we are certain of is that our magnificent FBI was never allowed to examine the servers that were allegedly "hacked". One might be forgiven for wondering why this glaring oversight hasn't been rectified during the last 200 years or so. I propose that Congress make provision for this by passing a statute. We can call it seizure pursuant to a warrant.
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