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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Video at date.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Glad to hear they are safe. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:11:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't read the overnight posts. How may predicted the guy would be a Middle Eastern terrorist or part of a Mexican cartel? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fucking Q-tard conspiracy theories in this thread is fucking embarrassing for this site, some of y'all need to get help yourselves, ffs stop. Your minds are broken, seriously. Even when you are deep thinking and only have 3 active brain cells functioning doesn't mean you should type it out and post your opinions on why this happened.  I didn't read the overnight posts. How may predicted the guy would be a Middle Eastern terrorist or part of a Mexican cartel? Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could he not have been active duty at some point before he went into the reserves? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lots of text here so sorry if I missed it. But from the sounds of some news he was a fueler in the reserves. And the reserves aren't in combat roles so I don't see any hard-core deployments under his belt but this is just speculation. Could he not have been active duty at some point before he went into the reserves? He apparently was at 304th Infantry Reserve in West Point NY and that was where he was hospitalized. In a local news release attributed to military officials. Unsure what, if any AD time he had. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that cunt and fuck anyone that has supported her to get where she is. mills is good friends with Harris |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:13:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:13:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't read the overnight posts. How may predicted the guy would be a Middle Eastern terrorist or part of a Mexican cartel? I mean the police scanner did start out by saying the cops were possibly looking for two middle eastern men. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat nut was smiling in court afterward.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Per Maine law he was legally required to surrender his firearms after being involuntarily committed in July https://legislature.maine.gov/statutes/34-B/title34-Bsec3862-A.html This leaves 3 options: 1. He had his rights restored by the hearing within 14 days as provided for in the law above 2. The state either didn't follow up to enforce the law in his case requiring surrender of weapons already owned, and/or didn't register him as a prohibited person allowing him to later acquire a new weapon 3. He stole it from the NG armory (which he should no longer have had access to) Barring evidence of #1 surfacing, the best case scenario here is government incompetence on at least 2 points of failure. When they took my 2a rights nobody ever showed up to my house to make sure I didn’t have access to my guns. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Video at date.
Australia rounded people up and put them in camps during Covid. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:15:42 PM EDT
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Whenever a shooting like this occurs I always wonder what the government is trying to distract us from....
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:16:35 PM EDT
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I wonder how different our trip to Maine next year is gonna be... We've already booked the campsite just outside of Bangor. I haven't been up in that area since 1992.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s no way in HELL I wouldn’t have anchored that autistic weirdo right then and there. Good shooting by the guard Did you watch to the end? They released the guy on bond!
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:17:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When they took my 2a rights nobody ever showed up to my house to make sure I didn’t have access to my guns. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Per Maine law he was legally required to surrender his firearms after being involuntarily committed in July https://legislature.maine.gov/statutes/34-B/title34-Bsec3862-A.html This leaves 3 options: 1. He had his rights restored by the hearing within 14 days as provided for in the law above 2. The state either didn't follow up to enforce the law in his case requiring surrender of weapons already owned, and/or didn't register him as a prohibited person allowing him to later acquire a new weapon 3. He stole it from the NG armory (which he should no longer have had access to) Barring evidence of #1 surfacing, the best case scenario here is government incompetence on at least 2 points of failure. When they took my 2a rights nobody ever showed up to my house to make sure I didn’t have access to my guns. Not to mention his hospital stay appears to be in NY. Probably no notification to Maine at all. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:18:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Australia rounded people up and put them in camps during Covid.  |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention his hospital stay appears to be in NY. Probably no notification to Maine at all. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
But but but Trump banned bump stocks. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you watch to the end? They released the guy on bond!
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:21:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. I think a lot of it was speculation related to the Travis Haley/96 hours thread. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:21:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. The government is going to have their narrative, the media will have the same narrative as the government, we are allowed our own as well. None will be right, but I prefer my delusions over someone else's spoonfed to me. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Snow is water, with a hard on. That's ice. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Video at date.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:23:29 PM EDT
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If he was a Fueler, he probably has a lot of anger built up about drivers not having ground guides.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's ice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Snow is water, with a hard on. That's ice.  |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:24:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a lot of it was speculation related to the Travis Haley/96 hours thread. I think it’s just people hoping it will be a special demographic so there’s less pressure on gun rights. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:25:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the anchor shots are bad snowflakes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There’s no way in HELL I wouldn’t have anchored that autistic weirdo right then and there. Good shooting by the guard In before the anchor shots are bad snowflakes. In my latest active shooter training we were actually taught to do anchor shots. We were told it is now state policy, put out by our Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, that any son of a bitch that tries to kill kids in a school in Florida is not going to survive the attempt. The thinking is we will be by ourselves until law enforcement arrives so we have to make sure the attacker is dead in case there is a second attacker we have to go deal with. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:26:55 PM EDT
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If you are not triple tapping, you are doing it really wrong.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:27:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how different our trip to Maine next year is gonna be... We've already booked the campsite just outside of Bangor. I haven't been up in that area since 1992. A lot different from 93. It’s more crowded and more liberal as transplants move here. There are lots of homeless being bused in from other parts of New England and southern Maine. Drug dealers from other states have taken up residence. It’s a shame. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my latest active shooter training we were actually taught to do anchor shots. We were told it is now state policy, put out by our Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, that any son of a bitch that tries to kill kids in a school in Florida is not going to survive the attempt. The thinking is we will be by ourselves until law enforcement arrives so we have to make sure the attacker is dead in case there is a second attacker we have to go deal with. I had same training |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:33:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot different from 93. It’s more crowded and more liberal as transplants move here. There are lots of homeless being bused in from other parts of New England and southern Maine. Drug dealers from other states have taken up residence. It’s a shame. The Ramada was a happening place in the 70s and 80s. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:33:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot different from 93. It’s more crowded and more liberal as transplants move here. There are lots of homeless being bused in from other parts of New England and southern Maine. Drug dealers from other states have taken up residence. It’s a shame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder how different our trip to Maine next year is gonna be... We've already booked the campsite just outside of Bangor. I haven't been up in that area since 1992. A lot different from 93. It’s more crowded and more liberal as transplants move here. There are lots of homeless being bused in from other parts of New England and southern Maine. Drug dealers from other states have taken up residence. It’s a shame. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:34:32 PM EDT
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Maine shooting suspect Robert Card was struggling with his mental health and claimed to family he overheard people talking about him at the bowling alley and bar where he is accused of opening fire Wednesday, according to his sister-in-law.
“He truly believed he was hearing people say things. This all just happened within the last few months,” Katie O’Neill, who is married to Card’s brother, told the Daily Beast Thursday. “I have known Rob my whole life. He is quiet but the most loving, hardworking, and kind person that I know. But in the past year, he had an acute episode of mental health,” she added. https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/news/maine-shooting-suspect-robert-card-may-have-targeted-places-where-he-claimed-people-insulted-him/ |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The government is going to have their narrative, the media will have the same narrative as the government, we are allowed our own as well. None will be right, but I prefer my delusions over someone else's spoonfed to me. While I think it is beyond gross to have people hoping it’s muzzies or urban yutes but it’s a sick sad world that we’re forced into thinking it since the left is going to do the same to spin the narrative to suit their gun grabbing agenda. Every time these things happen we have to deal with the onslaught of bullshit and stress from the anti’s. Lightens the load emotionally. Fucked up, but I understand the tendency. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:35:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's no where to go there on a jetski he couldn't drive to faster then unload. There's dams in a mile in both directions. There is a bridge there though he could have jumped off. Exactly, I suspect he swapped vehicles or maybe the dirt bike thing. Jet ski makes no sense in that area. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:36:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:36:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how different our trip to Maine next year is gonna be... We've already booked the campsite just outside of Bangor. I haven't been up in that area since 1992. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:37:50 PM EDT
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That’s some Sedgwick Great Escape shit right there. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the population that a) carries a firearm b) trains with said firearm and c) has same firearm with them the majority of time in public is *maybe* 3% of all firearms owners. Let's talk about this exact scenario, a good Samaritan in a bowling alley. I can talk about this as I've been *that* guy carrying a gun in a bowling alley but if I'm there to bowl off comes the gun (put in the wife's purse, my bowling bag or left in the car's glove compartment.) If the GS type has the gun inn his wife's purse or his bowling bag, he's got a good chance and picking off the bad guy with a surprised shot but lets be honest, realistically the GM would leave the gun secured in his vehicle. In light of this I think all of us need to reevaluate when/where we're carrying if we're carrying, I'll admit to being a bit lax at times or because of inconvenience. Not every one of us is at Condition White 100% of the time, that's simply not possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So the first shot was 15 feet away from him. That is an absurdly easy pistol shot. Even beginners can hit a man sized target from the 5 yard line. I think hanging out with folks who carry and then reading sites like this makes me think everybody is carrying and ready to battle. My wife reminded me this morning that I vastly overestimate how much of the public is similar to me. Of course, had this guy been carrying, turned, and shot the guy dead, this would not even be a national news item. Stories where a bystander drops the shooter are not news. Yes, the population that a) carries a firearm b) trains with said firearm and c) has same firearm with them the majority of time in public is *maybe* 3% of all firearms owners. Let's talk about this exact scenario, a good Samaritan in a bowling alley. I can talk about this as I've been *that* guy carrying a gun in a bowling alley but if I'm there to bowl off comes the gun (put in the wife's purse, my bowling bag or left in the car's glove compartment.) If the GS type has the gun inn his wife's purse or his bowling bag, he's got a good chance and picking off the bad guy with a surprised shot but lets be honest, realistically the GM would leave the gun secured in his vehicle. In light of this I think all of us need to reevaluate when/where we're carrying if we're carrying, I'll admit to being a bit lax at times or because of inconvenience. Not every one of us is at Condition White 100% of the time, that's simply not possible. Why take the gun off to bowl? I wouldn't and haven't. Outside of places where I don't really have a choice legally, the only time I take it off is to go in the water. You're correct you can't be paying complete attention all the time and you can always get distracted but at least have the tools on you. That way when you hear the first shots you can snap back. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:40:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why take the gun off to bowl? Probably to avoid being arrested. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:40:28 PM EDT
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Just speculation but what are the publicly known capabilities of a CASA CN-235? Been checking ADSB exchange here and there and this aircraft C2304 seems to be flying up and down the waterways near Bath. Maybe they think he did make it out on a boat.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ramada was a happening place in the 70s and 80s. It’s a homeless shelter now. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:42:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s some Sedgwick Great Escape shit right there. I imagine that the only reason they would be searching for him on his boat is because hit boat isn't sitting next to his house. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:42:41 PM EDT
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Card's boat, a 15-ft Bayliner is also missing, according to reports.
Marine records seen by DailyMail.com show that Card registered a 2019 Sea Doo jet ski in his name in June, sparking fears that he could have used the watercraft to flee investigators after opening fire. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:43:12 PM EDT
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I've paddled the Kennebec. There are some seriously sketchy Class V parts of that river (rapids). I'm sure he knows that area well, but without the right equipment, you are in big trouble if you get to Big Momma. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:43:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the population that a) carries a firearm b) trains with said firearm and c) has same firearm with them the majority of time in public is *maybe* 3% of all firearms owners. Let's talk about this exact scenario, a good Samaritan in a bowling alley. I can talk about this as I've been *that* guy carrying a gun in a bowling alley but if I'm there to bowl off comes the gun (put in the wife's purse, my bowling bag or left in the car's glove compartment.) If the GS type has the gun inn his wife's purse or his bowling bag, he's got a good chance and picking off the bad guy with a surprised shot but lets be honest, realistically the GM would leave the gun secured in his vehicle. In light of this I think all of us need to reevaluate when/where we're carrying if we're carrying, I'll admit to being a bit lax at times or because of inconvenience. Not every one of us is at Condition White 100% of the time, that's simply not possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So the first shot was 15 feet away from him. That is an absurdly easy pistol shot. Even beginners can hit a man sized target from the 5 yard line. I think hanging out with folks who carry and then reading sites like this makes me think everybody is carrying and ready to battle. My wife reminded me this morning that I vastly overestimate how much of the public is similar to me. Of course, had this guy been carrying, turned, and shot the guy dead, this would not even be a national news item. Stories where a bystander drops the shooter are not news. Yes, the population that a) carries a firearm b) trains with said firearm and c) has same firearm with them the majority of time in public is *maybe* 3% of all firearms owners. Let's talk about this exact scenario, a good Samaritan in a bowling alley. I can talk about this as I've been *that* guy carrying a gun in a bowling alley but if I'm there to bowl off comes the gun (put in the wife's purse, my bowling bag or left in the car's glove compartment.) If the GS type has the gun inn his wife's purse or his bowling bag, he's got a good chance and picking off the bad guy with a surprised shot but lets be honest, realistically the GM would leave the gun secured in his vehicle. In light of this I think all of us need to reevaluate when/where we're carrying if we're carrying, I'll admit to being a bit lax at times or because of inconvenience. Not every one of us is at Condition White 100% of the time, that's simply not possible. I know I’m the exception not the rule but it’s not hard to carry while doing things like that. A quality holster and belt with some thought at wardrobe selection it’s fairly easy to not be seen carrying while also not looking like Gecko45 |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:43:40 PM EDT
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Amazing! She took the cocks out of her mouth for a moment and actually spoke! Fuck Harris, fuck Biden, fuck this administration, fuck the MSM. Quoted:
The administration's Palestinian friends are licking their chops in anticipation. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:44:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He could have easily withheld some of them. Most likely they wouldn't know how many he had. The "state" has no clue what firearms are out there and who has them. "New" felons or those committed, etc., don't turn them in. Even in a state like California where they are supposed to be registered, the underpaid/underfunded task force trying to play catch-up with known new felons/firearms can't. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how different our trip to Maine next year is gonna be... We've already booked the campsite just outside of Bangor. I haven't been up in that area since 1992. Let's hope all these people dieing doesn't cause you any inconvenience. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 2:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. We did this embarrassing shit for the Boston bombers too. 
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