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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just read that on Yahoo. Folks here are missing how big this is. https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-reveals-suspected-gunman-maine-152129656.html They've been messaging him? interesting |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:34:50 PM EDT
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FFS:
Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly The family of the Army reservist accused of fatally shooting more than a dozen people in Lewiston, Maine, alerted police and military officials that he was experiencing an "acute" mental health episode before the Wednesday night massacre, the suspect's sister-in-law said. Robert Card, 40, a firearms instructor and longtime member of the Army Reserve, began to hear voices that were saying "horrible" things about him a couple of months ago when he was fitted for high-powered hearing aids, according to Katie Card, who is married to his brother. Katie Card said the family did their best to reassure Robert Card that the comments were not real, including by verifying with some of the people he claimed had made the remarks. But, she said, "it turned into a manic belief." "He was just very set in his belief that everyone was against him all of a sudden," she said. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:38:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just heard a call go out on the scanner. Dispatcher sent a cop to go check out a barn. The woman that lives at the residence thinks she might have left her barn unlocked and is worried that the active shooting suspect is hiding in there but isn’t going to go check. Wants the cops to come to her house and see if the barn is locked. There’ll be tons of similar calls going out all across the country. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:38:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does your post maybe leave out motivation, though? I can't imagine the statistics would capture that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The irony of the bullshit mental health debate in regards to firearms is that while the likelihood of suicide is higher, the likelihood of a mentally ill person, on meds or otherwise, committing a deadly violent act against others is effectively the same as a mentally healthy person. There is a statistically insignificant difference. But the media tries hard to hide that, and the pro gun folks in the know play along so they can give the anti - gunners something to try and appease them. Does your post maybe leave out motivation, though? I can't imagine the statistics would capture that? If the odds of mentally ill vs not mentally ill committing murder with a firearm are effectively the same, why restrict one group and not the other, regardless of motivation? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: first site that pops up on bing says it’s illegal to carry to places in Maine that have a license to serve alcohol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Others in the thread have said so. I didn't verify it I don't live there. But I would not think a bowling alley would normally be off limits to carry. Yes they serve alcohol but the whole place isn't generally considered a bar. Kids and families go there. They haven't been off limits anywhere I've lived. May apply to the whole bowling alley or just the bar section. My bet is just the bar but some clarification would be nice. If illegal then I get it. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ramada was a happening place in the 70s and 80s. Early to mid 70s its nickname was the "Ram-it-in" 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:39:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FFS:
This is the dicey part of all this intervention. If he came to suspect his family was moving on him it could have triggered the implementation of his plan. It was said that Adam Lanza's mother realized he was getting dangerous and was looking for a facility for him, he suspected it and that triggered him into action. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Going by what the family is saying, it sounds like he got hearing aids and started hearing people around him talking shit about him and he got pissy and decided to start killing people. He heard voices because he was able to hear more than he could before. Looking at the initial pics. He’s wearing combat boots and I’m thinking coveralls. Prob got camo on underneath and he already had his e&e planned out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How long do these 'psychic breaks' last, did Dude wake up this morning, somewhat more sane, and know what he had done? (Not quite sure I buy the schizo stuff yet, way too early, no matter what anecdotal evidence friends and family provide). Going by what the family is saying, it sounds like he got hearing aids and started hearing people around him talking shit about him and he got pissy and decided to start killing people. He heard voices because he was able to hear more than he could before. Looking at the initial pics. He’s wearing combat boots and I’m thinking coveralls. Prob got camo on underneath and he already had his e&e planned out. No one suggested he take out the demon hearing aides? It would be my first suggestion to him. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:40:27 PM EDT
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So they found his boat somewhere?
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:40:27 PM EDT
[#10]
 The Truth About the Maine Mass Shooting |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:41:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did this embarrassing shit for the Boston bombers too.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Even after the blurry photos, lots of, "That nose looks Afghan/Persian/Middle Eastern" etc. Lots of people in here want and need it to be a Middle East shooter. We did this embarrassing shit for the Boston bombers too. Wait, wut? The Boston bombers were Islamic extremists and readily admitted that was their motivation. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:43:31 PM EDT
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According to the local media , "Army officials confirmed Thursday that Card has been in the Army Reserve since Dec. 2002. His current rank is Sgt. First Class and is a Petroleum Supply Specialist"
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:45:30 PM EDT
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Stephen King weighs in
'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FFS:
Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ... right wing milita guy goes nuts and starts shooting people and ... Goes after apparently random groups instead of the local government types. Yeah, totally makes sense . /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/200-816.gif - Revealing Regardless …. - When heemyer (sp) "went" ... he went after the people who had screwed him over. Dude in the nbc interview says right wing militia and it's imtimated that it was at least part of the cause, but if it iwas, the nutjob would have acted in accordance with that. Leftists trying to pin the tail on the evil not leftist donkey generally tend to out themselves by their utter ignorance. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being one my self, you are correct I could never tell the difference until they started speaking, even their version of English is butchered just as bad as their version of French. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FFS:
Family of Maine shooting suspect says his mental health had deteriorated rapidly Sounds like schizo but sort of peculiar timing with the hearing aids. I suppose a tinfoil hat wearing sort would think that an aggregator could hack into that and propagate a shooting. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:48:37 PM EDT
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Just happened to catch this before a break as soon as i turned on fox live youtube...
 ETA: All clear |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:48:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to the local media , "Army officials confirmed Thursday that Card has been in the Army Reserve since Dec. 2002. His current rank is Sgt. First Class and is a Petroleum Supply Specialist" “Die gas pumper!!!’” |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stephen King weighs in 'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' Quote HistoryQuoted: Stephen King weighs in 'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' He added: 'THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN OTHER COUNTRIES.' Been to Israel lately?? 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:50:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stephen King weighs in 'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' Somehow, I don't feel like it's the wisest decision to follow the advice of a horror book writer who writes child gang-bang sex into his novels. I mean, the fact that hollywood likes to turn his novels into movies ought to be an indicator. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to mention his hospital stay appears to be in NY. Probably no notification to Maine at all. I GUARANTEE you, NY notified Maine. Just had that happen to a friends daughter. She voluntarily entered a mental health facility in NY and NY immediately ratted her out to CT. The local CT police then showed up to sieze her firearms. She now has to go to court to preserve her firearms rights. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:50:40 PM EDT
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Question for those in the mental health field and apologies if it’s been asked already. I missed it.
How likely is it for someone experiencing an acute mental break to have the mental facilities to plan out and implement an E&E plan that has successful up to this point? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:51:46 PM EDT
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Lots of woods in that area for him to hide.
I hope the fucker either offs himself or gets DRT before he can hurt anyone else. I grew up in that area and their is lots of places to hide. Steven King can fuck off and die...everyone knows people from Durham are inbred retards !! 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:52:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May apply to the whole bowling alley or just the bar section. My bet is just the bar but some clarification would be nice. If illegal then I get it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Others in the thread have said so. I didn't verify it I don't live there. But I would not think a bowling alley would normally be off limits to carry. Yes they serve alcohol but the whole place isn't generally considered a bar. Kids and families go there. They haven't been off limits anywhere I've lived. May apply to the whole bowling alley or just the bar section. My bet is just the bar but some clarification would be nice. If illegal then I get it. Someone else posted that they'd been at another facility with the same name, and if they're owned/operated by the same folks, the one he went to had No Firearms signs posted. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that has been released. The closest we have is a screencap from his FB talking about units. 92F petroleum supply specialist No combat deployments AAM,ARCAM,ASR,NDSM Was not a firearms instructor. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reminds me of Charles Whitman, his brain tumor had something like this effect on him. But, he could still plan, and carry out the plan. He was not dysfunctional, this guy sounds the same. Thought he was also addicted to meth. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Early to mid 70s its nickname was the "Ram-it-in" I could see that. My dad was in the house band. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:55:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maine is among the very best states there is to be on the run like that. Might be an exhausting hunt if he isn't found soon. Can't think of a single place that would be better. A large state that is extremely isolated and low populated in most of it outside of the few cities near the bottom, near an international border ( also low populated and rural on the other side ) , near the ocean, has a lot of back trails and rivers throughout the state, and is the densest most forested state out of the entire 50. On top of that southern Maine is only six hours from NYC, and two from Boston if he wanted to try and blend in the cities instead of the woods he wouldn't need to drive as far as other places. The only downside is the cold. Pretty sure you are describing Alaska. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:55:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question for those in the mental health field and apologies if it’s been asked already. I missed it. How likely is it for someone experiencing an acute mental break to have the mental facilities to plan out and implement an E&E plan that has successful up to this point? Rare, acute mental illness is disorganizing for most people. Charles Whitman was an exception, and he reported something close to command voices telling him to act. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:55:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stephen King weighs in 'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' Stephen king is a fat irrelevant fuck. I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would pay attention to anything he has to say. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:57:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stephen King weighs in 'The shootings occurred less than 50 miles from where I live. I went to high school in Lisbon. It's the rapid-fire killing machines, people. This is madness in the name of freedom. Stop electing apologists for murder.' Stephen King needs to run more on dark roads. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought he was also addicted to meth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Reminds me of Charles Whitman, his brain tumor had something like this effect on him. But, he could still plan, and carry out the plan. He was not dysfunctional, this guy sounds the same. Thought he was also addicted to meth. He had a prescription for dexedrine, and had the bottle on him. 8-1-66. I never could quite make it. These thoughts are too much for me. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:59:02 PM EDT
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My friend and his son did not make it.
I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 3:59:47 PM EDT
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Anyone else hearing reports that the rifle he used came from the NG armory?
If true they better cover it up fast as it doesn't look good with Biden trying to use this to ban assault weapons. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts Damn sorry man. 
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:00:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I'm sorry. That's horrible. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:00:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:00:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I'm sorry.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question for those in the mental health field and apologies if it’s been asked already. I missed it. How likely is it for someone experiencing an acute mental break to have the mental facilities to plan out and implement an E&E plan that has successful up to this point? Speaking as someone who has had psychotic breaks, you don’t totally lose the ability to think logical all the time. And if this guy was army 20 years the training probably kicked in and mostly instincts. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts Sorry to hear that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts Damn dude. Im sorry. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:19 PM EDT
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1007 West Rd, Robert Card II. LE was there last night. NHSP helicopter circling the property this morning, Channel 7 helicopter flew straight from Boston to circle that property about a dozen times, and then just straight back to Boston area.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:01:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Milk Potato chips Hot dogs Bunz |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:02:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts sorry to hear this may they RIP
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:02:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I hope he dies without hurting anyone else. He would seem like someone who could legitimately hunt the hunters. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 4:03:12 PM EDT
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Possible info Reddit (yeah it's Reddit take it with a grain of salt but the guy knows the lingo):
So, my buddy is AGR in the battalions S3 shop of the dude in question. They were at ECT at west point training cadets when he went a little fucko. The state police were called in, and the end result was him being hospitalized. West Point does not have a mental health facility, and he was transferred to a civilian hospital and held for 2 weeks. After release, he threatened to shoot up the saco Reserve Center during September's drill. The COC is shitting bricks right now and are trying to figure out how to cover there asses. Edit: When I talked to my buddy, he was heading in a meeting with the BC and other relevant leadership to try and figure out what to do. Some things he brought up were: -The unit facebook page has been shut down because news outlets were using it to contact soldiers in the unit. -The BC RFI'd my buddy on the COA for when the dude is killed by the cops. Does he get a military funeral? -the dudes first sausage is sweating bullets. I'm not sure the reasoning. My buddies phone was blowing up while talking to him. I'll update more when and if he gets a chance to talk. On a side note, my va councilor and my grammother lives 5 minutes from where he swapped vehicles. I think the leadership is sweating due to what they did or didn't do after his release. They are probably fine. However, they are about to be held under a microscope on a national scale. This event will certainly affect an oer/ncoer, so I bet they are trying to ensure that they did, in fact, take all the necessary actions. It is hard to manage soldiers in the reserves. As a leader, you can't do much unless they are at drill or on orders. For instance, you can't confiscate his firearms. When I was in, I had a soldier who decided to Don his full battle rattle and march down the city streets with an AR at 2 in the morning. The cops took his firearms, and we got him a mental health profile. If the cops didn't confiscate his guns, the profile would be useless because the 90% he's at home he would have access to firearms. |
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