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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:31:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. The Facebook photos with the fish look a lot more like the blurry pics (you can see his nose better, and his face isn't as fat). |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:31:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it was the guns, Switzerland would have blood running in the streets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like a counter is needed for #ItsTheGuns that's trending. If it was the guns, Switzerland would have blood running in the streets. FJB's Pali friends are salivating at the opportunity a disarmed populace gives them |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:32:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really. At the bowling alley everyone is either on the ground or running around screaming. He could have been gone for minutes before people started poking their heads up and started calling 911. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not in that area. Some backroads, but that's about it. A couple of trails that might take you a mile or so. What intrigues me is the timing: 6:56, calls come in at the bowling alley 7:08, calls come in from the pool hall. I know both these places well, I was born and raised in Lewiston (family still lives there, they are safe). With no traffic it's a 11-14 minute drive between the two. Google maps says that at that time of day it's closer to a 16 minute drive. I haven't read all pages, but has a "multiple shooter" been discussed? Hmmm... That is interesting, isn't it? Yeah those time don't seem too improbable to me. Call comes in slow from location A perhaps early from location B. Shooter driving on adrenaline hauling ass in between. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:32:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they arrest you, you can contest it in court. If they slander and libel you to death, sucks to be you. Yep. You can at least try to clear your name in court. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:33:08 PM EDT
[#5]
So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house?
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:33:16 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. Based on what features? Cameras are different angles. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:33:24 PM EDT
[#7]
He's not coming out, no way.
At least alive. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:34:19 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. Angles change an appearance. Grab your phone and hold it out. Shots from angles ARE NOT the same as straight on. Other facial features are highlighted. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:34:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn ?? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:34:58 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:36:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn ?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn ?? Sir, everyone keeps running over the damn cones. Deploy burners on them! |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? Connected to is not the same as being at his house. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:37:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:37:45 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not coming out, no way. At least alive. Someone else posted something about a news blurb stating he bought a 7.62x51 AR earlier this year? The blurry ass pics didn't immediately make me think "that's not 5.56..." Gas him? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:37:53 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My friend and his son did not make it. I hope when this guy dies it's slow and it fucking hurts I'm very sorry to hear that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:38:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:38:28 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So you telling me all this fucking man hunt shit and this MF'er at his house? News hasn't been able to confirm it's HIM. They're at the house calling someone out. Ah. Missed that part. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:38:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forget the speaker. California’s AWB is about to hit court. If it comes back as legal that’s significantly bad case law for all of us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is almost as if the timing was planned. Forget the speaker. California’s AWB is about to hit court. If it comes back as legal that’s significantly bad case law for all of us. I believe the hearing of CA's request for an emergency stay of the ruling against the AWB is tomorrow. A Left-leaning Trump appointee will be the swing vote on the motions panel. I hope this incident does not influence his decision. Bad timing. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:38:44 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:39:20 PM EDT
[#21]
I thought I read that Card has kids. I sure as hell hope they're not in that house. They're already fucked because of him though. That's a lifetime of pain they will have to sort out.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:40:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:40:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here Or they monitor it from afar hoping he goes back to his "safe space" |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:40:59 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. I'm horrible with faces. I agree. It doesn't look like the same guy to me either. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:42:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They called for "Robert" to come out on the loudspeaker. I mean did they not search the house 9 times already? Surely it wasn't left unattended today to allow him to sneak back in? Some BS going on round here |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:42:15 PM EDT
[#26]
I realize that he was believed to be “on the run,” but … it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, “gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home,” and … get a fucking search warrant for it?
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:42:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It took the Bureau five years to run down Eric Rudolph The Bureau didn't run Rudolph down. A rookie cop caught him dumpster diving for food. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:43:10 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. Looks like the same guy to me. No idea why you think it isn't. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:43:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or they monitor it from afar hoping he goes back to his "safe space" That could make some sense now that you pointed it out...............They sure as hell don't wanna do another Rudolph style hunt.. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:43:35 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I realize that he was believed to be "on the run," but it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, "gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home," and get a fucking search warrant for it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:43:38 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought I read that Card has kids. I sure as hell hope they're not in that house. They're already fucked because of him though. That's a lifetime of pain they will have to sort out. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:44:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. Go back through the thread. Someone dug up the Facebook photos before LE released that photo. If you look at the blurry security photos, the Facebook fishing photos AND the photo in the official circular, you can see that it's the same person. The official pic is straight on, and he's fatter. The Facebook fishing pic has a better angle showing the nose and face as in the blurry security cams, and the FB and official pic are obviously the same guy. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:45:24 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm horrible with faces. I agree. It doesn't look like the same guy to me either. change the angle and lose some weight and it does to me. I've had to ID plenty of camera footage for work. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:46:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not married, there's a rumor that his girlfriend left him. Kids were an extrapolation from the kids toys in the Google Maps pic. @SoCalExile Did you guys ever figure out what "Laser Optic" he was using as per the stupid MSM?? I've been out in the field today so missed the midday run down |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:46:31 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn ?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn ?? IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:47:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m really starting to think this guy was a horse’s ass and people didn’t like him but they acted civil to his face but talked crap about him behind his back. They knew him to be hard to hearing so they didn’t try too hard to be discrete when talking about him. He can’t me anyway right. Dude gets hearing aids and quickly discovers the truth of things and loses his fragile but violent mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dude with hearing problems targeted a deaf event? I’m really starting to think this guy was a horse’s ass and people didn’t like him but they acted civil to his face but talked crap about him behind his back. They knew him to be hard to hearing so they didn’t try too hard to be discrete when talking about him. He can’t me anyway right. Dude gets hearing aids and quickly discovers the truth of things and loses his fragile but violent mind. Except ... nobody was talking about this guy. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:47:50 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm sure we'll get to see that manifesto. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:48:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SoCalExile Did you guys ever figure out what "Laser Optic" he was using as per the stupid MSM?? I've been out in the field today so missed the midday run down Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's not married, there's a rumor that his girlfriend left him. Kids were an extrapolation from the kids toys in the Google Maps pic. @SoCalExile Did you guys ever figure out what "Laser Optic" he was using as per the stupid MSM?? I've been out in the field today so missed the midday run down |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:49:13 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:49:43 PM EDT
[#40]
ABC News on Youtube saying he left a suicide note for his son.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:50:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:51:35 PM EDT
[#42]
I would not be surprised if they break the window and send a drone in. We have done it for similar.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:51:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not married, there's a rumor that his girlfriend left him. Kids were an extrapolation from the kids toys in the Google Maps pic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought I read that Card has kids. I sure as hell hope they're not in that house. They're already fucked because of him though. That's a lifetime of pain they will have to sort out. Oh okay, I do hope that's the case. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:51:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Confirm he's in the house and then set it on fire.
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:52:14 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has it been discussed (I've looked through almost all of the pages in this thread), that the security cam footage doesn't look like the guy's pic they are posting up. https://i.ibb.co/cxhxNrW/shooter.jpg I am no conspiracy guy, but the photo on the left is not of the same guy, and that's regardless of new or old pic. Even if he thinned out...sorry, but it's not. People are dead, and the guy that shot them is still at large, but I've got to wonder. I saw someone else from that town post a few posts earlier that the time to get between the bowling alley and the bar is a bit too tight when compared to the calls coming in. No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. I don't see middle eastern in either. I'll need to go find the "fish" photos. I get what folks are saying about camera angles and I am by no means a facial recognition expert, but it just seems like two different facial types/shapes/hair patterns. Off to find the fish photos! |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:52:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if they're yelling at an empty house to surrender. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I realize that he was believed to be "on the run," but it took them 24 hours to end up at his fucking house, a few miles away? Like, none of the hundreds of cops involved thought, "gee maybe we should stick a couple cars at his house in case he comes home," and get a fucking search warrant for it? Put yourself in his situation, I would not go back to any property that I had ties to in anyway. Would you? |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:52:30 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wait, so he does have a kid... |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:52:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit, I noticed it too. Guy on the right has beady eyes, also looks middle-eastern for sure with the curly black hair and long nose. These two pics are two different guys. No they aren't. They look very similar, if you know what to look for. |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:52:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: currently SWAT at a house in Lisbon Me. at a property cconnected to te suspect. reported by ABC News Maybe he will Dorner himself and burn IIRC dorner didn't light his place off, the canisters that got shot into his place did it? Potato / patato |
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Posted: 10/26/2023 7:53:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Angles change an appearance. Grab your phone and hold it out. Shots from angles ARE NOT the same as straight on. Other facial features are highlighted. Yep. Just like the fat girls are skilled at making themselves look thin for pics. |
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