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Posted: 8/4/2023 12:24:08 PM EDT
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"The huge amount of water vapor hurled into the atmosphere, as detected by NASA’s Microwave Limb Sounder, could end up temporarily warming Earth’s surface.
On January 15th of 2022, the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai undersea volcano erupted, ejecting enough water into Earth's stratosphere to fill "58,000 Olympic-size swimming pools," this is according to a NASA study published in the journal "Geophysical Research Letters."

"We’ve never seen anything like it,” said Luis Millán, an atmospheric scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. He led a new study examining the amount of water vapor that the Tonga volcano injected into the stratosphere, the layer of the atmosphere between about 8 and 33 miles (12 and 53 kilometers) above Earth’s surface.
Previous major volcanic eruptions, like Mount Pinatubo, Mount St. Helens and the much earlier mega eruption of Krakatoa have led to a cooling effect on Earth's weather as ash and other particulate matter ejected into the atmosphere combined to reflect the rays of the Sun back into space.

However, in the case of the Tonga blast, the caldera was situated nearly 500 feet below the surface of the South Pacific Ocean, resulting in a muted particulate ash cloud, but a greatly enhanced vaporizing of the surrounding water, ejecting that vapor into the stratosphere where it will have the effect of trapping heat on the Earth's surface.

Measurements from the Microwave Limb Sounder on NASA's Aura satellite indicate the excess water vapor is equivalent to around 10% of the amount of water vapor typically residing in the stratosphere, where this "excess stratospheric H2O will persist for years, could affect stratospheric chemistry and dynamics, and may lead to surface warming."

This estimate, conducted in late 2022 has been recently revised upward from a 10% increase in stratospheric water vapor to a 30% increase by the European Space Agency. Water vapor is a well-recognized "greenhouse gas," whose heightened presence leads to higher surface temperatures, a mechanism much more powerful than the interaction of atmospheric CO2, as explained by the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Volcanic eruptions rarely inject much water into the stratosphere. In the 18 years that NASA has been taking measurements, only two other eruptions – the 2008 Kasatochi event in Alaska and the 2015 Calbuco eruption in Chile – sent appreciable amounts of water vapor to such high altitudes. But those were mere blips compared to the Tonga event, and the water vapor from both previous eruptions dissipated quickly. The excess water vapor injected by the Tonga volcano, on the other hand, could remain in the stratosphere for several years.

This extra water vapor could influence atmospheric chemistry, boosting certain chemical reactions that could temporarily worsen depletion of the ozone layer. It could also influence surface temperatures. Massive volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Mount Pinatubo typically cool Earth’s surface by ejecting gases, dust, and ash that reflect sunlight back into space. In contrast, the Tonga volcano didn’t inject large amounts of aerosols into the stratosphere, and the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat. The effect would dissipate when the extra water vapor cycles out of the stratosphere.

The likelihood of our present warming trend owing to this dramatically increased, entirely natural greenhouse effect of water vapor from the Tonga eruption has been admitted to by the two major space agencies - NASA and the European Space Agency - yet has remained largely unreported in the media."
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:27:24 PM EDT
[#1]
Bullshit. We were told the oceans are boiling because of us.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:29:27 PM EDT
[#2]
Only first-world humans can change the earth's climate, and no other factor can. Duh.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:30:32 PM EDT
[#3]
I've been assured that all "climate change" is man made.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:31:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Searching wouldn't have helped.  You have a better title though.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/What-NASA-and-the-European-Space-Agency-are-admitting-but-the-media-are-failing-to-report/5-2662206/
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:31:43 PM EDT
[#5]
Less than 1% of atmospheric water vapor is in the stratosphere, so a 10-13% increase isn't as significant as it sounds.

It's probably having some impact, but since a 1C increase in temperature increases total atmospheric water vapor by about 9%, it probably isn't very big.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:32:23 PM EDT
[#6]
That does it.

We need to ban volcanos now, for the chil'ren.... or something.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:32:37 PM EDT
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I searched.

The link

"The huge amount of water vapor hurled into the atmosphere, as detected by NASA’s Microwave Limb Sounder, could end up temporarily warming Earth’s surface.
On January 15th of 2022, the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai undersea volcano erupted, ejecting enough water into Earth's stratosphere to fill "58,000 Olympic-size swimming pools," this is according to a NASA study published in the journal "Geophysical Research Letters."

"We’ve never seen anything like it,” said Luis Millán, an atmospheric scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. He led a new study examining the amount of water vapor that the Tonga volcano injected into the stratosphere, the layer of the atmosphere between about 8 and 33 miles (12 and 53 kilometers) above Earth’s surface.
Previous major volcanic eruptions, like Mount Pinatubo, Mount St. Helens and the much earlier mega eruption of Krakatoa have led to a cooling effect on Earth's weather as ash and other particulate matter ejected into the atmosphere combined to reflect the rays of the Sun back into space.

However, in the case of the Tonga blast, the caldera was situated nearly 500 feet below the surface of the South Pacific Ocean, resulting in a muted particulate ash cloud, but a greatly enhanced vaporizing of the surrounding water, ejecting that vapor into the stratosphere where it will have the effect of trapping heat on the Earth's surface.

Measurements from the Microwave Limb Sounder on NASA's Aura satellite indicate the excess water vapor is equivalent to around 10% of the amount of water vapor typically residing in the stratosphere, where this "excess stratospheric H2O will persist for years, could affect stratospheric chemistry and dynamics, and may lead to surface warming."

This estimate, conducted in late 2022 has been recently revised upward from a 10% increase in stratospheric water vapor to a 30% increase by the European Space Agency. Water vapor is a well-recognized "greenhouse gas," whose heightened presence leads to higher surface temperatures, a mechanism much more powerful than the interaction of atmospheric CO2, as explained by the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

Volcanic eruptions rarely inject much water into the stratosphere. In the 18 years that NASA has been taking measurements, only two other eruptions – the 2008 Kasatochi event in Alaska and the 2015 Calbuco eruption in Chile – sent appreciable amounts of water vapor to such high altitudes. But those were mere blips compared to the Tonga event, and the water vapor from both previous eruptions dissipated quickly. The excess water vapor injected by the Tonga volcano, on the other hand, could remain in the stratosphere for several years.

This extra water vapor could influence atmospheric chemistry, boosting certain chemical reactions that could temporarily worsen depletion of the ozone layer. It could also influence surface temperatures. Massive volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Mount Pinatubo typically cool Earth’s surface by ejecting gases, dust, and ash that reflect sunlight back into space. In contrast, the Tonga volcano didn’t inject large amounts of aerosols into the stratosphere, and the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat. The effect would dissipate when the extra water vapor cycles out of the stratosphere.

The likelihood of our present warming trend owing to this dramatically increased, entirely natural greenhouse effect of water vapor from the Tonga eruption has been admitted to by the two major space agencies - NASA and the European Space Agency - yet has remained largely unreported in the media."
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Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:33:36 PM EDT
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I've been assured that all "climate change" is man made.
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You’ve been reading “peer reviewed journals” …amiright?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:33:40 PM EDT
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Bullshit. We were told the oceans are boiling because of us.
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this is exactly what my libtard wife said when I told her about this

No interest whatsoever, no counter opinion, no argument

just Bullshit, we are the cause of "global warming", The Talk, The View, The Chew (the Cudd?) said so
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:33:58 PM EDT
[#10]
THAT SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE DENIAL!
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:36:52 PM EDT
[#11]
So fracking in WV caused the volcano to erupt.

Adapt 2030 channel on YouTube has done a few videos on the impacts of Hunga Tunga (or whatever it's called) erupting.


How Volcanic Eruptions, Food Shortages & Digital Rationing Cards Could Impact on Our World


(10% More Moisture in Earth's Atmosphere) Impacts of Hunga-Tonga Eruption


Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:38:52 PM EDT
[#12]
Interesting.  58,000 Olympic sized swimming pools of water volume sounds fairly significant to a human scale, I wouldn't think that it would be that much on a global scale. But they are saying it's equivalent to 10-30% of the water volume at those altitudes.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:39:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Guess they just remember this happened?  They are over a year late with the news.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:39:20 PM EDT
[#14]
am i in before some loon says the earth is fighting back against humanity?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:39:35 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:39:37 PM EDT
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Only first-world humans can change the earth's climate, and no other factor can. Duh.
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Only white western countries.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:40:12 PM EDT
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Volcanoes are Raciss™?.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:40:44 PM EDT
[#18]
No i still believe its the hairspray and ozone hole from the 80's.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:50:18 PM EDT
[#19]
I guess at least we'll have less UV then, right? No more sunblock for this pale guy.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:50:52 PM EDT
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No i still believe its the hairspray and ozone hole from the 80's.
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You mean the ozone hole over the Antarctic that those in the northern hemisphere had change refrigerants to fix despite global wind patterns?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:51:42 PM EDT
[#21]
More wild ass guesses and assumptions.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:52:35 PM EDT
[#22]
How much more taxes do I need to pay to solve this volcanic eruption issue?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:56:07 PM EDT
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How much more taxes do I need to pay to solve this volcanic eruption issue?
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All of them. All the taxes. Plus, you need a vaccine.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:56:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Science is truly dead.


Link Posted: 8/4/2023 12:59:31 PM EDT
[#25]
Evil scientists are going to be the hardest hit by these new Volcano carbon and water emissions taxes.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:02:09 PM EDT
[#26]
TaX tHe WhAleS
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:05:17 PM EDT
[#27]
We need electric volcanos now!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:06:08 PM EDT
[#28]
probably due to fracking, huh?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:06:34 PM EDT
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Water vapor is a well-recognized "greenhouse gas," whose heightened presence leads to higher surface temperatures, a mechanism much more powerful than the interaction of atmospheric CO2, as explained by the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

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Did I make it before we treat water vapor as a pollutant?

Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:07:55 PM EDT
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Took them long enough to acknowledge it. Water vapor has much more effect on global temps than CO2 ever could. It's not even close
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:10:31 PM EDT
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You would be wrong. Everyone knows Trump was seen flying over the area before this happened. He must have dropped something that caused it.

The Republicans made it worse when they voted against Biden’s Climate Change bill.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:12:44 PM EDT
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"We’ve never seen anything like it,” said Luis Millán, an atmospheric scientist
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And these are the people who tell us we can't use gas generators and ovens because it will heat Earth 2 degrees in the next 100 years
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:13:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Isn't this something the Ghostbusters can fix?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:15:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Why are ICE vehicles, gas stoves, and HVAC units making underwater volcanoes erupt?

Won't someone think of the children!
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:18:27 PM EDT
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Less than 1% of atmospheric water vapor is in the stratosphere, so a 10-13% increase isn't as significant as it sounds.

It's probably having some impact, but since a 1C increase in temperature increases total atmospheric water vapor by about 9%, it probably isn't very big.
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You are missing the bigger picture.

The science tards don’t know anything near what they profess they do and the the climate doomsayers continue to ignore in your face evidence of ‘natural" events with potentially long range affects.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:20:19 PM EDT
[#36]

How will the left spin this????
I bet they blame the eruption on fracking.  

Somehow, they have to tie naturally occurring events to human behavior.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:20:52 PM EDT
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Interesting.  58,000 Olympic sized swimming pools of water volume sounds fairly significant to a human scale, I wouldn't think that it would be that much on a global scale. But they are saying it's equivalent to 10-30% of the water volume at those altitudes.
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We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  


Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:26:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Any mention of the impact of the Canadian forest fires?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:28:39 PM EDT
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We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  


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Interesting.  58,000 Olympic sized swimming pools of water volume sounds fairly significant to a human scale, I wouldn't think that it would be that much on a global scale. But they are saying it's equivalent to 10-30% of the water volume at those altitudes.

We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  




Thunderstorms are usually contained in the troposphere.

The volcano launched 150 million tons of water into the stratosphere which is usually much drier.

Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:30:15 PM EDT
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That would make midcap unhappy.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:35:47 PM EDT
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We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  


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Aren't thunder and other storms bringing water to the surface from the atmosphere, while the undersea mega volcano blasted the vapor into the stratosphere? Seems like opposite effects, or am I missing something?
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:54:34 PM EDT
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Less than 1% of atmospheric water vapor is in the stratosphere, so a 10-13% increase isn't as significant as it sounds.

It's probably having some impact, but since a 1C increase in temperature increases total atmospheric water vapor by about 9%, it probably isn't very big.
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The new estimate is a 30% increase

This is why CO2 can't match water vapor for affecting global temps

Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:55:52 PM EDT
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Bullshit. We were told the oceans are boiling because of us.
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This.
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:56:10 PM EDT
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Godzilla
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 1:59:48 PM EDT
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Godzilla
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Again!  That son of a bitch...
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 2:01:23 PM EDT
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TaX tHe WhAleS
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Link Posted: 8/4/2023 2:09:29 PM EDT
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We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  


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Interesting.  58,000 Olympic sized swimming pools of water volume sounds fairly significant to a human scale, I wouldn't think that it would be that much on a global scale. But they are saying it's equivalent to 10-30% of the water volume at those altitudes.

We have thunderstorms every summer that dump more than that.  Named storms dump much more.

660,000 gallons in the Olympic spec pool x 58,000. 38B gallons.    

1" = 17M gallons per sq mile

Enough for <1 inch of rain on a 50x50 mile area.  




Nearly all water vapor in the atmosphere is in the troposphere. The stratosphere is above the troposphere.

Link Posted: 8/4/2023 2:12:59 PM EDT
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Thunderstorms are usually contained in the troposphere.

The volcano launched 150 million tons of water into the stratosphere which is usually much drier.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Atmosphere_layers-en.svg/320px-Atmosphere_layers-en.svg.png
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Approximately how many washing machines or buses worth is that?

Sorry.  Weather balloon made me think of the Chinese spy balloons.  lol
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 2:13:48 PM EDT
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In before Fjb! bans the boiling of water!
Link Posted: 8/4/2023 2:19:38 PM EDT
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Duh. Water vapor is a most-effective contributor to global warming and that volcano kicked the atmosphere’s ass. Our monsoon was the 2nd wettest season on record last year. Related? Maybe.
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