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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:05:35 PM EST
[#1]
when they went to radial tires
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:08:58 PM EST
[#2]
One could also argue restrictor plates, but Dale even made that fun. So yes, I agree. Him dying ended it for me anyway.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:11:12 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: when they went to radial tires |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:12:00 PM EST
[#4]
When they quit racing real cars modified for racing.
Old style win on sunday, sell on monday |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:12:05 PM EST
[#5]
Alpha types?. Lolz
They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:12:26 PM EST
[#6]
Nascar died with sticker for headlights.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:13:26 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When they quit racing real cars modified for racing. Old style win on sunday, sell on monday |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:14:24 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:16:20 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bet you can drag race better, too. Just driving in a straight line. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. Now the drag racing is pathetic. I mean...a straight line. I could probably do it blindfolded, while listening to a podcast. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:16:34 PM EST
[#10]
I used to be a huge fan. But I haven’t watched in years. Davey Allison was my favorite driver. I was so upset when he died.
I honestly don’t even understand the goofy scoring system anymore. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:17:11 PM EST
[#11]
NASCAR died for me when they started allowing silhouette cars in the 80s. Up until then they were actually based on stock cars. After that, they just looked like they were based on stock cars.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:21:23 PM EST
[#12]
I tried to hold on after Dale's crash. I made it until the Bubba Smollett "noose" fiasco. That, combined with the kneeling during the anthem crap killed any desire I had left to watch or follow professional sports. Bunch of overpaid entitled ungrateful prima donnas.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:23:23 PM EST
[#13]
I watched it all through my childhood, I lost interest about the time they changed the points rules.
ETA: I had to look it up, it was 2004. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:23:49 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. You would be the first into the wall or another car . |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:24:06 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One could also argue restrictor plates, but Dale even made that fun. So yes, I agree. Him dying ended it for me anyway. This, I was a huge Dale fan and rarely missed a race. That day was it for me,I don't believe I have watched more than 20 minutes of any race since that day. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:24:24 PM EST
[#16]
It's been bad for a long time. I used to really enjoy it, too. My asked if I wanted to watch Daytona tomorrow, I was like "Why?".
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:26:39 PM EST
[#17]
I still like it and watch it but the real NASCAR died a long time ago.
I cannot tell Ford/Chevy/Toyota cars apart except for the logo. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:26:58 PM EST
[#18]
NASCAR has been suffering from death by a thousand cuts for many decades now. Everyone has their own line in the sand.
Silhouette cars, restrictor plates, radials, Dale, CoT, "race to the points", Bubba Smollett. Pick one. I stoped watching with the CoT. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:28:41 PM EST
[#19]
Op nailed it.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:29:05 PM EST
[#20]
Agreed. I was huge fan and tried to watch it after that event but couldn’t stay with it. Especially all the changes that have happened. None have been for the better IMO.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:31:06 PM EST
[#21]
I think I quit watching about the time Buddy Baker retired
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:31:08 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. Funny thing about sports, most of them are really easy... until you are trying to compete with the best at that simple activity. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:31:14 PM EST
[#23]
I enjoyed it for a few years when Chrysler got back into it but checked out when they left. And yes, the intimidator's death was a huge loss.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:34:43 PM EST
[#24]
I prefer watching real "stock" car racing.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:38:14 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When they stopped having OEM chrome bumpers and sheet metal. So... sometime in the late 80's.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:38:51 PM EST
[#26]
That was it for me.
I wasn’t a huge fan my whole life, but I was a casual fan. In the years building up before Dale’s crash I had really gotten into it. Jarrett, Wallace, Gordon, Martin, Irvan, Rudd, LaBonte brothers - they all made it fun. I watched the rest of that season but that was it. A lot of the older guys I know say it died when it wasn’t the Winston Cup anymore. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:41:35 PM EST
[#27]
I've only been watching since 2010 or so (whenever Trevor Bayne won the 500) so I get the impact Earnhardt had on the sport but I don't miss it because I never knew it.
I like the new cars. I don't mind stage racing. I like the road courses and even the street course. We go to two or three races a year. I don't really like any of the new drivers. We liked Tony Stewart but when he retired it was hard to root for anyone. I can't relate to a rich kid who's had the best of everything since he started racing go karts at 2 years old. Trackhouse changed that for me. The drivers are ok (I like Chastain more than Suarez) but I like Justin Marks, the risks he took, and how he runs the team. It was cool "getting in on the ground floor" as a fan of a new team. I'm not a traditionalist. I think "because that's how it's always been " is the worst reason to do anything...but I hate the clash being in LA and NASCAR being so hellbent on that west coast money. It's never going to happen. They're always going to hate you. NASCAR could go full electric and California still won't care. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:46:17 PM EST
[#28]
Restricter plates
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:46:21 PM EST
[#29]
I'd rather drive paced laps at Watkins Glen than watch a nascar race at Watkins Glen.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:46:48 PM EST
[#30]
 this timeframe is when I was last interested.. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:49:35 PM EST
[#31]
Died when they went to fuel injection and all the other electronic shit.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:52:08 PM EST
[#32]
Quoted: I mostly agree with that statement, but the real nail in the coffin was in 2007 when the CoT came out. Sport has never been the same since. I miss the big horsepower, hand crafted and hand painted Cup cars. I miss having drivers I could look up to as well. Real alpha types used to pilot those dangerous cars at 200+ mph. I really want to like the next gen car but just cant The cars aren't even remotely anything like what comes off the showroom floor. IMO the hudson hornet era of nascar was the best for that.  The Fabulous Hudson Hornet | Full Documentary Great documentary. Really interesting and fun to watch. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:52:58 PM EST
[#33]
Dale was basically the end of the old breed. whether he died or retired, the sport was going to decline based on the stupid shit NASCAR was implementing to become "more mainstream".
Regardless, that was the last race I ever watched. Just didn't care anymore. I still liked some of the older drivers, and still looked at race results from time to time, but that was it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:53:31 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/8c/a6/638ca6f55de900c422dc5ad4d1894fad.jpg this timeframe is when I was last interested.. Awesome Bill from Dawsonville. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:54:38 PM EST
[#35]
Dale dying and them pussing out and not calling it the Winston Cup anymore were the one-two punch that killed it.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:54:58 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. Post some of your lap times then. Any track, lets see your PB. Drag racer? Lets see those RT’s and 60fts then we can discuss your trap speed. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 7:55:02 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One could also argue restrictor plates, but Dale even made that fun. So yes, I agree. Him dying ended it for me anyway. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:03:04 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Post some of your lap times then. Any track, lets see your PB. Drag racer? Lets see those RT’s and 60fts then we can discuss your trap speed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. Post some of your lap times then. Any track, lets see your PB. Drag racer? Lets see those RT’s and 60fts then we can discuss your trap speed. Yeah, I don't know what any of that means....none of it. But I will show you my PB if you show me yours. Now it's a party! Also I was a huge Sterling Marlin fan. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:05:30 PM EST
[#39]
It didn’t necessarily die with Dale, but his passing was a fatal injury that the sport never recovered from. I love watching all the OLD races at sold out venues—was just a greater time, it seems.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:07:00 PM EST
[#40]
Quoted: I mostly agree with that statement, but the real nail in the coffin was in 2007 when the CoT came out. Sport has never been the same since. I miss the big horsepower, hand crafted and hand painted Cup cars. I miss having drivers I could look up to as well. Real alpha types used to pilot those dangerous cars at 200+ mph. I really want to like the next gen car but just cant |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:08:13 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny thing about sports, most of them are really easy... until you are trying to compete with the best at that simple activity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Alpha types?. Lolz They're just dudes driving a car in circles. Anyone could do it with one arm out the window, smokin a Marlboro. I could drive those circles with a Frappuccino in the cup holder and one hand full of avocado toast. Funny thing about sports, most of them are really easy... until you are trying to compete with the best at that simple activity. Didn't I already tell you I could do it. I AM the best  You're The Best |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:08:49 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dale dying and them pussing out and not calling it the Winston Cup anymore were the one-two punch that killed it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:09:48 PM EST
[#43]
Best summary I've seen.
 NASCAR and the Dam of Legitimacy |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:10:35 PM EST
[#44]
I respect you'll for not shitting in my thread, now I see why it doesn't get any traffic but a few.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:10:47 PM EST
[#45]
Never had an interest really. Go fast in a circle? OK but the "SC" stands for "Stock Car" right? Uh, I'm out. I'd be onboard with actual off-the-production-line cars racing.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:13:16 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never had an interest really. Go fast in a circle? OK but the "SC" stands for "Stock Car" right? Uh, I'm out. I'd be onboard with actual off-the-production-line cars racing. Then you should watch IMSA Racing |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:13:48 PM EST
[#47]
NASCAR drove the nail in it's own coffin when they changed the points system to the "Chase" format.
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:14:13 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dale dying and them pussing out and not calling it the Winston Cup anymore were the one-two punch that killed it. yeah, but Winstons are cigarettes! 
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:15:08 PM EST
[#49]
yep
I have not watched a race since that day. |
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Posted: 2/17/2024 8:15:09 PM EST
[#50]
#3.
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