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Posted: 7/11/2019 6:17:44 PM EDT
A North Carolina man was billed $153,000 by the hospital that treated him for a copperhead bite. Luckily the man had insurance which covered much of the bill. Details at link...
Expensive bill thanks to snek
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:18:52 PM EDT
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[youtube]https://youtu.be/xvaEJzoaYZk[/youtube]
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:19:50 PM EDT
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He should have claimed to be illegal
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:20:18 PM EDT
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I wonder what an illegal bit by a copperhead would be charged.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:24:24 PM EDT
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Really curious as to what a Black Mamba bite would cost a fellow. Or can you even survive those?
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:25:21 PM EDT
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yep, just throw the bill in the trash.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:31:12 PM EDT
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The Insurance probably said "Here's $3,500 . Take it, love it and shut the fuck up about it"
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:31:24 PM EDT
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I'm still amazed that otherwise intelligent people still fall for 'how much was billed'. Nobody pays billed charges, especially in an emergency, except for the rare middle/upper middle class person without insurance that is worried about their credit score.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:31:54 PM EDT
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Well I had to take my wife to the ER for about three hours, she got IV fluids and painkillers, and a CT scan.  It was $14,000.  We are on a payment plan, it was before my insurance had kicked in.

It's easy to see how people vote for whatever political party says they are going to fix healthcare, because it definitely needs fixing.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:32:40 PM EDT
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They wouldn't you would out of your taxes, just as I am sure you pay for a majority of gun shot wounds victims in the inner cities.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:32:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:32:50 PM EDT
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Medical billing in the US is so fucked up it makes me understand why people want single-payer.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:33:07 PM EDT
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Florida man got hit by one he kept at home several times.  He lived, but they had to life flight him to some other part of the state to get enough antivenin.  I'm sure it was quite a bill.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:35:24 PM EDT
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Wow!

Last Sunday, a woman at my club’s USPSA match was bitten by a young Mohave rattler.

That bite put her in ICU for a week so far.

I’m morbidly curious about her hospital tab.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:37:15 PM EDT
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No shit. The medical industry is their own worst enemy.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:37:18 PM EDT
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Antivenin is one of those things that are actually expensive....
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:39:38 PM EDT
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That price is in the ball park.  And yes if treated early
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:45:58 PM EDT
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Government run single payer healthcare wouldn't have cost that much.
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Cause he wouldn't have got the anti-venom!
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:48:07 PM EDT
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The Insurance probably said "Here's $3,500 . Take it, love it and shut the fuck up about it"
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This is how our healthcare works. Nobody pays the "frontline" price. I have paid medical bills out of pocket the same way.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:48:59 PM EDT
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IBDrs proclaim how much they're worth.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:50:41 PM EDT
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No shit. The medical industry is their own worst enemy.
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Medical billing in the US is so fucked up it makes me understand why people want single-payer.
No shit. The medical industry is their own worst enemy.
I think their outlandish prices are probably less out of corporate greed and more to make up for the free medical care crowd and low payouts for it by the government.

I would love to see what the ratio of people getting free healthcare and people actually paying for their care is in large US city hospital.

I would guess around 7-3 the 7 being free recipients.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 6:56:18 PM EDT
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The same anti-venom, from the same company, produced in the same factory, costs less than $200 in Mexico.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:04:42 PM EDT
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The same anti-venom, from the same company, produced in the same factory, costs less than $200 in Mexico.
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Antivenin is one of those things that are actually expensive....
The same anti-venom, from the same company, produced in the same factory, costs less than $200 in Mexico.
Yep, just like scorpion anti venom, 10,000% increase once it crosses the border
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:08:30 PM EDT
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A guy ran a venomous snake serpentarium here locally. I think he got hit four times by a black mamba.  Wrote a pretty interesting description of what it was like to get bit by one. Unfortunately he couldn’t survive a 9 mm fired by a crazy wife.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:14:28 PM EDT
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Who even goes to the hospital for a Copperhead bite?  Unless he was just little bitty or frail it’s not even worth going. Suck up the pain for the night and be done with it.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:15:14 PM EDT
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in theory, if you were hit in miami, you might stand a chance. miami serpentarium houses an extensive venomous snake collection, and they & the local hospital stock serum to treat bites from all snakes in the collection. (that have anti-venom serums available)

i wouldn't want to be the guy to test it though. i imported about a dozen black mambas over the years, while in tampa. all went to the bill haast, for his venom collecting venture. they were the only snakes i put into the fridge for 30 minutes, and then unbagged out in the parking lot (so i had room to run) in case things went south. that was the only snake i ever "feared". even a fierce snake is a walk in the park, compared to a black mamba.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:15:49 PM EDT
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Wow!

Last Sunday, a woman at my club’s USPSA match was bitten by a young Mohave rattler.

That bite put her in ICU for a week so far.

I’m morbidly curious about her hospital tab.
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My 30 days in ICU last year (in a coma for 14 of those days) was $291,934.34.

Excluding the physicians' fees, tests, ad infinitum.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:20:42 PM EDT
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Whatever the victim would have contributed towards his deductible would buy plenty of ammo.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:21:05 PM EDT
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Well I had to take my wife to the ER for about three hours, she got IV fluids and painkillers, and a CT scan.  It was $14,000.  We are on a payment plan, it was before my insurance had kicked in.

It's easy to see how people vote for whatever political party says they are going to fix healthcare, because it definitely needs fixing.
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Health care does NOT need fixing. That’s anti-American faggot talk.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:22:12 PM EDT
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Fuck that.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:22:22 PM EDT
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BS scam that started right about the start of the 60's.  For you rookies, here is the fix.....

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:22:47 PM EDT
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A guy ran a venomous snake serpentarium here locally. I think he got hit four times by a black mamba.  Wrote a pretty interesting description of what it was like to get bit by one. Unfortunately he couldn’t survive a 9 mm fired by a crazy wife.
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Really curious as to what a Black Mamba bite would cost a fellow. Or can you even survive those?
A guy ran a venomous snake serpentarium here locally. I think he got hit four times by a black mamba.  Wrote a pretty interesting description of what it was like to get bit by one. Unfortunately he couldn’t survive a 9 mm fired by a crazy wife.
Dang, what a life!
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:24:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:25:11 PM EDT
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I love that song.  I have the album around here somewhere
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:27:16 PM EDT
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Think that's expensive?

Wait until it's free.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:30:51 PM EDT
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Kind of makes you wonder why you wouldn't just rely on the ER for all your healthcare needs and "forget your ID at home".

Who is John Galt?
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:37:22 PM EDT
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I think their outlandish prices are probably less out of corporate greed and more to make up for the free medical care crowd and low payouts for it by the government.

I would love to see what the ratio of people getting free healthcare and people actually paying for their care is in large US city hospital.

I would guess around 7-3 the 7 being free recipients.
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hey now,

when I check in patients (patient service rep aka receptionist at a local clinic) we ask those without insurance for at least $50 upfront for urgent care visits.  Most of them don't pay it, and due to emtala we have no choice but to see them anyway.

Cant tell you how many people I checkin with foreign passports or Mexican IDs.  And this is in Salt Lake City, UT.  If someone doesn't wanna show ID, were still mandated to see and treat them.  
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:42:53 PM EDT
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Kind of makes you wonder why you wouldn't just rely on the ER for all your healthcare needs and "forget your ID at home".

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my urgent care providers refuse to write prescriptions for anything but seriously life threatening shit.  Pain meds, opioids...etc hell to the no.  One of the few things I like about those clowns.  Not even like 3 days to get you to a regular appointment with a regular provider.  Nada.

My god the stories I've heard from people trying to get pain meds lmao.  And I'm only part time in this job.  My coworkers who do this full time have some real doozies.  But for HIPAA reasons (and cuz Im typin this at a work computer) I wont say more lol
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:52:59 PM EDT
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His insurance company probably paid less than 20 grand.  Here's mine for ten days in cardiac care.

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Link Posted: 7/11/2019 7:53:47 PM EDT
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What should it cost?   Do y'all walk up to Ferarri dealerships and talk about Honda civic prices? Mexican healthcare is utter garbage...
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:05:16 PM EDT
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It would be 1/50th of the cost if EMTALA and Medicaid didn’t exist.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:20:39 PM EDT
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That’s the point, I think
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:23:03 PM EDT
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Capitalists acting in bad faith breed Communists.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:24:38 PM EDT
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The same anti-venom, from the same company, produced in the same factory, costs less than $200 in Mexico.
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Antivenin is one of those things that are actually expensive....
The same anti-venom, from the same company, produced in the same factory, costs less than $200 in Mexico.
And yet if Trump were to insist on importing said cheap drug from Mexico, Freedump Works would be bitching about "MUH IMPORTING SOCIALIST PRICE CONTROLS HUR DUR! WE WANT THE FREEDUMB TO BUY $150,000 ANTIVENOM HUR DUR!"
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:24:48 PM EDT
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Health care does NOT need fixing. That’s anti-American faggot talk.
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Well I had to take my wife to the ER for about three hours, she got IV fluids and painkillers, and a CT scan.  It was $14,000.  We are on a payment plan, it was before my insurance had kicked in.

It's easy to see how people vote for whatever political party says they are going to fix healthcare, because it definitely needs fixing.
Health care does NOT need fixing. That’s anti-American faggot talk.
It needs to go back to how it was in fucking 2006....

EDIT: or earlier
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:27:26 PM EDT
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Well I had to take my wife to the ER for about three hours, she got IV fluids and painkillers, and a CT scan.  It was $14,000.  We are on a payment plan, it was before my insurance had kicked in.

It's easy to see how people vote for whatever political party says they are going to fix healthcare, because it definitely needs fixing.
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Did you get $14,000 worth of care or Did you get $2000 worth of care and paid for the 6 other people before you that didn’t pay?
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:31:01 PM EDT
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I have heard 2nd hand that rattlesnake bites can cost six figures.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:35:04 PM EDT
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Did he try mdsave.com?
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:37:34 PM EDT
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Fuck venomous snakes and medical billing both.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:39:05 PM EDT
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It is probably still $153,000, the difference is the hospital sends you a check instead of a bill.
Link Posted: 7/11/2019 8:44:32 PM EDT
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$153,000.  Well, OK, maybe $100,000 since they didn't have insurance.

But they wouldn't pay, the hospital would "write it off", since they've already jacked the price up for paying customers to cover the non-paying ones.

Like it or not, we already have socialized health care like that.  It's just socialized through your costs with the private companies, not through the government.
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