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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:15:03 PM EST
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So he was removed from his position immediately, yes?
I mean, of course he was fired on the spot, right? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:16:01 PM EST
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NY, Florida...how many other major population centers need upper management showing these symptoms before it's indefensible, even for you? That's only two of the four biggest states, by the way...another of which is beyond all realistic redemption (CA) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:17:00 PM EST
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Oh look, another fat old man with a break open Fudd gun opining on restricting people’s rights. I say we ban bolt actions and break open shotguns, seeing as they’re not credible for militia use. Wonder what the bus-throwing Fudd brigade would say then. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:17:01 PM EST
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Ok, let's take your logic and run with it. How many Republicans have made comments supporting some level of gun control? ALL OF THEM, including Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. By your logic we should not only work to remove every single politician from office but we should work to destroy the GOP because their statements are indefensible. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:18:08 PM EST
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So he was removed from his position immediately, yes? I mean, of course he was fired on the spot, right? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:20:34 PM EST
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Ok, let's take your logic and run with it. How many Republicans have made comments supporting some level of gun control? ALL OF THEM, including Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. By your logic we should not only work to remove every single politician from office but we should work to destroy the GOP because their statements are indefensible. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:20:48 PM EST
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Are you saying NRA BoD should not be allowed to have their own personal opinions? That is all this is, one guy in charge of a FUDD organization running his mouth. Just like the FUDDs in Oklahoma that belong to the Oklahoma Rifle Association, the NRA affiliate org in that state, who came out against constitutional carry that the NRA was pushing. FUDDs are going to be FUDDs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:23:03 PM EST
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That's all you got? Go on dispute what I said. If one member of the BoD stating his personal opinion is grounds to "burn it to the ground" then every Republican supporting some level of gun control is more than enough to "burn it to the ground". You guys made up that logic not me. So now defend it. Give it up Nobody here wants to hear it And you’re not changing anyone’s mind |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:32:15 PM EST
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And some people claim that the NRA doesn't do anything...
They are doing a damn fine job of attacking our rights, as usual... |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:32:47 PM EST
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And we had 3 Board Members here saying things too. What's your point? The board members here didn't represent the official position of the NRA any more or less than the idiot from New York. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:34:57 PM EST
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:35:57 PM EST
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I thought i was helping our guys behind enemy lines. I let mine lapse a few years ago.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:42:27 PM EST
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Glad I bailed in the 90s. Fucking bunch of crooks.
The thing that gets me is that even after I bailed those cock-suckers are still considered "the voice of gun-owners". 
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Posted: 10/21/2019 10:52:31 PM EST
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Always fun to see SWIRE try and defend the NRA. Worth the cost of membership here alone.
I quit giving in the 90s when they basically bent over on the AWB. I then learned more about the NFA GCA and other gun laws we have and asked local NRA Affiliated Gun group why the NRA didn't address this and why they weren't fighting to get these repealed and all I heard was silence. Funny I had been to many NRA Training sessions and didn't even know machine guns were legal or suppressors never came up in any of the classes. I had no idea what a Form 4 was etc. But boy I must be a patriot as long as I can shoot one round every 10 seconds at 5 yards with the amazing training they offer. It's almost as good as the rules at the Fudd Ranges affiliated with them that demand NO RAPID FIRE and NO SUPPRESSORS or NFA Weapons. NRA supports the 2nd just don't bring things that scare liberals or FUDDS to our ranges. I guess those NRA FUDD ROs were like the original SJWs getting triggered by a scary black rifle being fired more then 1 round a second. It was pretty funny to see them latch on to the Tacticool AR movement in the late 2000s. National Rifleman was the Fudd Magazine Of Choice then suddenly they were reviewing AR15s and Glocks once they got popular. 10 Years before they acted like they didn't exist. Then their marketing firm got cool people like Dana for the gun owners that think with their dicks and Noir to act like they were into SD/Tactical type shooting to vacuum up all those peoples money so they could support RFL and Bump Stock Ban. Your single shot bolt actions and BB Guns are safe with the NRA at the helm. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:01:12 PM EST
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Jesus fucking Christ, those fucking scumbags.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:02:45 PM EST
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Your caught in some weird u have to defend the NRA Give it up Nobody here wants to hear it And you're not changing anyone's mind Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's all you got? Go on dispute what I said. If one member of the BoD stating his personal opinion is grounds to "burn it to the ground" then every Republican supporting some level of gun control is more than enough to "burn it to the ground". You guys made up that logic not me. So now defend it. Give it up Nobody here wants to hear it And you're not changing anyone's mind |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:07:30 PM EST
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Lots of people here still support the NRA and despite the chaos Wayne has caused the NRA-ILA still managed several victories earlier this year. You and hand full of others scream loudly making statements similar to David Hogg. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:07:57 PM EST
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@SWIRE we're not talking about forum posts. King made the offending comments in a media interview for an article in which he presumably knew he would be identified as the head of NYSRPA. He was, therefore, speaking for the organization. He used his position as leader of an NRA affiliate to promote anti-gun legislation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:09:16 PM EST
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Lots of people here still support the NRA and despite the chaos Wayne has caused the NRA-ILA still managed several victories earlier this year. You and hand full of others scream loudly making statements similar to David Hogg. I was only telling u are wasting your time Oh by the way I do wanna burn it all down Repubs Democratic cocksuckers I would destroy them all over what they have done So.. the NRA is small fries. Next point u would like to make? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:13:00 PM EST
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doubletap
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:13:10 PM EST
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My Tom King Haiku
================ Tom King, not so bright. No critical thinking skills. A fucking moron. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:17:16 PM EST
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Do you believe that Tom King should resign? Do you believe the NRA and NYSRPA should adopt his position that 80% lowers and frames need to be banned? Will you ever pick a side, and if so, will it be the side of liberty or the side of incremental gun bans? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lots of people here still support the NRA and despite the chaos Wayne has caused the NRA-ILA still managed several victories earlier this year. You and hand full of others scream loudly making statements similar to David Hogg. A question about your question of "picking a side". Every single Republican in the House, Senate, and White House supports some level of gun control. If you draw the line where did, then that means you must vote against every single Republican in office otherwise you are supporting the incremental gun bans. Are you going to sit the next election out since there is no perfect candidate? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:18:36 PM EST
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I do wanna burn it all down Next point u would like to make? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:22:18 PM EST
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So it's a way to circumvent gun control that you and most of the rest of the NRA endorses?
Can't say I'm too broken up about that. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:22:47 PM EST
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Try reading the thread. I've already said Tom King is an idiot who was running his mouth. That is the only thing that has happened and my statement answers all your questions. The NRA should not support any new gun control, period. They should also work to gain back some of the rights we lost. A question about your question of "picking a side". Every single Republican in the House, Senate, and White House supports some level of gun control. If you draw the line where did, then that means you must vote against every single Republican in office otherwise you are supporting the incremental gun bans. Are you going to sit the next election out since there is no perfect candidate? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:23:33 PM EST
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You summarized it up very well and proved my point. Yeah, I say I can’t support that. Sad ur organization does. Does that prove your point? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:33:38 PM EST
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And Tim Knight made his comments publicly calling for Wayne's removal. Does that mean the official position of the NRA is that Wayne should be removed? Both people were BoD members and neither have any authority to speak on behalf of any organization. Organizations have specific people designated to make official statements that represent the entire organization. Did Tom King say "As a director of the NRA we believe 80% guns should be banned"? Nope, he didn't mention anything about the NRA or NYSRPA, the media included that. Meaning he is connected to those organizations but was not making any official statement on behalf of the organization. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:35:59 PM EST
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Ok, let's take your logic and run with it. How many Republicans have made comments supporting some level of gun control? ALL OF THEM, including Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. By your logic we should not only work to remove every single politician from office but we should work to destroy the GOP because their statements are indefensible. |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:38:13 PM EST
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Americans oldest and largest gun control organization
With friends like this, who needs enemies? |
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:39:31 PM EST
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That guy needs to eat shit & die choking on it.
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:43:09 PM EST
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Replace 80 percent lowers with Assault Weapons and high capacity magazines and that will probably be their position in 5-10 years at this rate maybe after that they will double down on non sporting handguns and maybe "unsafe" storage and ammo stockpiles
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:44:27 PM EST
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:50:07 PM EST
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:58:16 PM EST
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I am confused and concerned because that person is the head of the group having a pro-2A case before SCOTUS
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Posted: 10/21/2019 11:59:30 PM EST
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Those fucking shit heads called me again this evening, wish I had seen this earlier I would have added it to the many reasons I told them to pound sand...Really tired of the NRA and starting to regret my lifetime membership (bought well before their bullshit started).
No more money from me Jobu... |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 1:34:43 AM EST
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I wouldn't worry about it. He has nothing with the litigation.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 1:38:09 AM EST
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For having a personal opinion that is different than the NRA's official position? If that were the case then every single BoD member would be removed. Even the 3 guys from this site that were on the BoD were not fired and they spoke out directly about Wayne himself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 1:50:32 AM EST
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I mean lets be fair,
The NRA is something that started out for serious shooters and competitive shooters, and turned into a criminal enterprise. They are kinda subject matter experts on that. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 1:57:12 AM EST
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For having a personal opinion that is different than the NRA's official position? If that were the case then every single BoD member would be removed. Even the 3 guys from this site that were on the BoD were not fired and they spoke out directly about Wayne himself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he was removed from his position immediately, yes? I mean, of course he was fired on the spot, right? If he had those opinions and said them privately, sure rock and roll. Fudd your heart out. But that's not what happened, he was OBVIOUSLY representing major firearms lobbying groups and gets a pass because....? The guy could be completely anti-gun in his private life, I don't care, but he collects a pay check to defend firearms freedoms and he FAILED UTERLY. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 2:26:08 AM EST
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Just another FTNRA
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Posted: 10/22/2019 3:35:49 AM EST
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Fuck him and anyone here who support him.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 4:30:26 AM EST
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Isn't it already illegal for a prohibited person to posess a firearm? Therefore even if prohibited people buy 80% lowers, they cannot turn them into firearms because that would be illegal. Problem already solved with existing laws.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 4:35:56 AM EST
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I honest to god am convinced Swire is either an employee or relative of the NRA big wigs.
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Posted: 10/22/2019 4:50:33 AM EST
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Lots of people here still support the NRA and despite the chaos Wayne has caused the NRA-ILA still managed several victories earlier this year. You and hand full of others scream loudly making statements similar to David Hogg. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's all you got? Go on dispute what I said. If one member of the BoD stating his personal opinion is grounds to "burn it to the ground" then every Republican supporting some level of gun control is more than enough to "burn it to the ground". You guys made up that logic not me. So now defend it. Give it up Nobody here wants to hear it And you're not changing anyone's mind MANY here are very pro 2A.....belong to several 2A orgs......actively do things to try to expand the 2A..... But yet if they criticize the NRA you jump to David Hogg comparisons.. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:13:14 AM EST
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For having a personal opinion that is different than the NRA's official position? If that were the case then every single BoD member would be removed. Even the 3 guys from this site that were on the BoD were not fired and they spoke out directly about Wayne himself. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:21:04 AM EST
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Just out of curiosity, how many home built guns, or completed 80% kits are used in crimes?
My suspicion is very few; so that raises the question: what is this real objection? |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:23:25 AM EST
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:24:50 AM EST
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Well they have to be careful what they say. Whi knows when Rachel Maddow might read something they said and use it on msnbc.
This is for the members' own good. |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:25:48 AM EST
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Just out of curiosity, how many home built guns, or completed 80% kits are used in crimes? My suspicion is very few; so that raises the question: what is this real objection? |
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Posted: 10/22/2019 5:27:48 AM EST
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Organizations have specific people designated to make official statements that represent the entire organization. Did Tom King say "As a director of the NRA we believe 80% guns should be banned"? Nope, he didn't mention anything about the NRA or NYSRPA, the media included that. Meaning he is connected to those organizations but was not making any official statement on behalf of the organization. |
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