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Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:48:57 AM EDT
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I wonder if the gov gave any thought to what happens when all the producers leave, and there's only takers left?

Where does this nonsense come from?  Democrats own all big tech, all media, make up most of the teachers, and run/work in all these other woke companies but people here keep saying "Democrats don't work".    Do you really think 62% of New York doesn't work?

Some are bailing: (some links require subscriptions)
Florida Will Overtake New York As The Epicenter Of Finance, Hedge Fund Manager Says
State Street Is Latest Financial Firm to Abandon NYC Offices
More Than One In Five NYC Financial Firms Expect To Move Jobs Out Of The City
Hedge Funds Are Ready to Get Out of New York and Move to Florida

That is good and bad.  If they bring NY liberals with them then that puts pressure on turning Florida blue.  That's why companies like Amazon setup a second headquarters in Texas.  

Ron DeSantis and the Republican legislature need to put in place programs to educate the public in Florida about what makes Florida great and why they should keep it that way.  Democrats do it all the time with their social programs, community organizers, and programs that indoctrinate school children.  Republicans need to do the same but use them to push the ideas of freedom, law and order, lower taxes...etc that makes Florida such a great place.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:50:08 AM EDT
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Outside of NYC, Albany and one or two other cities, yes it is generally conservative leaning.

https://i.imgur.com/k7ndsX1.jpg

That is even worse that I imagined.  Those numbers show New York is as conservative as Kentucky is liberal.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:51:59 AM EDT
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Maybe TX and AZ can send NY 5.4M homeless illegals in return for 5.4M R voters.
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Sounds agreeable
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:52:10 AM EDT
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I dont see how that passes constitutional muster given it discourages interstate travel. And if a state cannot encourage a person to stay  out of it (we will drop the charges if you never show your face here again type), then a state cant similarly encourage you to stay in it
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Maybe she'll issue a decree that no NY dem can ever leave the state again also. Or build a wall to keep them in like the old East Germany.


The leftist states for a while have been talking about exit taxes.

Actually, jersey already has some form  of it in their real estate transfer tax. If you sell in nj and don’t buy another property in nj you pay extra.



I dont see how that passes constitutional muster given it discourages interstate travel. And if a state cannot encourage a person to stay  out of it (we will drop the charges if you never show your face here again type), then a state cant similarly encourage you to stay in it


NJ exit tax is a prepaid sales tax for gains on property, I guess too many people were skipping the state returns when they fled the state. You don't pay "extra"... not sure where he got that from.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:54:37 AM EDT
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Make land vote. Marginalize and choke urban areas. This should be a policy objective.
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but land doesn't vote people do.  Most people live in the cities and urban areas and they are liberal.


Make land vote. Marginalize and choke urban areas. This should be a policy objective.

Yeah, it is a shame the founding fathers didn't allocate a base level of seats in the House based on land area and then the rest based on people.  They sort of did with Senate given that Wyoming has the same amount of representation as California.  That still doesn't address dense urban areas vs the rest of the state.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 11:54:44 AM EDT
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If they leave tax revenue would take a huge hit. Rush leaving alone probably removed $20 million in taxes.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:01:14 PM EDT
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which leads to the question
Witmer vs hochul, which one would ya?
some would probably say 3sum??
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:01:55 PM EDT
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Yeah Schumer wins red counties because the GOP runs potted plants against him with no funding and the bastard hustles.
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That still doesn't add up.  Why would the Republicans in those areas vote for him?  I would vote for an actual potted plant before I would ever vote for a liberal.  If those Republicans vote for Schumer then they don't qualify as conservative.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:04:22 PM EDT
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That whole 'New York Values' thing again.

Jay
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:05:12 PM EDT
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It's not even conservative by land area when Schumer is running for re-election. He wins almost every county from Montauk to the Canadian border.
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Unfortunately correct. Even in my Town where we went more than 2:1 against Gillibrand, HRC, Biden & Cuomo. Unreal.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:11:28 PM EDT
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Make land vote. Marginalize and choke urban areas. This should be a policy objective.
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great idea  you get equal votes to land percentage.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:13:24 PM EDT
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sadly not fast enough.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:21:21 PM EDT
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5MR out of 13M total.

Yet we always read here in GD that NY is actually conservative
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No what you read is outside of NYC the state is largely conservative. NYC has half the state’s population in an area about 300 square miles. The state is about 55k square miles.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:24:10 PM EDT
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Cuomo said similar. I left because I wasn’t going to pay another dime of tax money to the vile disgusting  gutter scum. I can’t imagine living in that hellhole.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:24:19 PM EDT
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I wonder if that's what the Virginia Govenor said prior to the Civil war to the Replublicans..
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:25:42 PM EDT
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Maybe she'll issue a decree that no NY dem can ever leave the state again also. Or build a wall to keep them in like the old East Germany.
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Approved. Let it be.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:27:53 PM EDT
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Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.
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Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.


Tell me more, I’m listening. You paint with pretty broad strokes pal.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:28:21 PM EDT
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I wish they would. NY would come to a grinding halt.
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That and do a US census right after so we know what states to add to the House from removing the ones from NY.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:33:24 PM EDT
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Imagine if all the rino's from NY, IL, and other lost cause dem states all moved to Cali and flipped it red...
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WHY would I swap one blue state for a worse blue state?
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:34:40 PM EDT
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The there will be plenty of room for all the illegals to re-settle in the Democrat Utopia.

Sounds like a win-win

For any of you New York Republicans heading to Florida; welcome but leave ALL the failed politics behind and learn how to be a Floridian. No, we really don’t care how you did things “back north”.
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Florida is the next to last state I'd head to in this country
I like seasons
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:40:54 PM EDT
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If Zeldin was smart he should take this qoute and run with it.

Say that he would be a governor to all NYers

Run that ad 24/7
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:45:12 PM EDT
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Florida is the next to last state I'd head to in this country
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The there will be plenty of room for all the illegals to re-settle in the Democrat Utopia.

Sounds like a win-win

For any of you New York Republicans heading to Florida; welcome but leave ALL the failed politics behind and learn how to be a Floridian. No, we really don’t care how you did things “back north”.

Florida is the next to last state I'd head to in this country
I like seasons


Hurricane is a season.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:47:11 PM EDT
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I'll tell you a secret 87% of NY "Republicans" don't give two shits about ARs and certainly not body armor. They care about taxes, schools, property values. They mostly got vaccinated and were fine with it.

People are fleeing NY mostly over taxes.

Hochul isn't going to round them up (outside of gun dudes) or burn down their houses. The GOP will continue to mostly control rural and suburban areas* and have absolutely no control over state politics.

*upstate anyways although some traditional GOP towns are flipping.
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I know everyone has jobs and family and homes they don't want to leave.

But you are enemy No.1 in New York, you are now a targeted individual.

Your job and your home and your family will all be gone soon anyway if you stay there.

People don't want to admit it, but we are at the end game now.

Even if you manage to keep your job you'll be taxed to death and your purchasing power is being inflated away.

It's true across the country,  but at least in other states you can own body armor and firearms that haven't been neutered beyond recognition.
I'll tell you a secret 87% of NY "Republicans" don't give two shits about ARs and certainly not body armor. They care about taxes, schools, property values. They mostly got vaccinated and were fine with it.

People are fleeing NY mostly over taxes.

Hochul isn't going to round them up (outside of gun dudes) or burn down their houses. The GOP will continue to mostly control rural and suburban areas* and have absolutely no control over state politics.

*upstate anyways although some traditional GOP towns are flipping.


Yeah I guess I knew that.  Mostly talking to the 20 or 30 actual freedom loving Patriots in the state.

Sure,.. you can call yourself a republican and as long as you go along with chi-com takeover they'll allow you to exist.
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This is next.
At least I can use this when my mother asks why I'm moving out of state.  "The governor told me to."
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:47:24 PM EDT
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The loss in tax revenue would probably collapse the state. People forget that's baked into the budget.

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Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:47:24 PM EDT
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One party doesn't realize the other does not need them at all. They are merely our entertainment.
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I left years before asked.
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Keep sending the border crossers into nyc.
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All the working folks….?  …she cray, cray….they’d starve and get heatstroke the first week.
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Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.
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You mean like the NYers that founded ARFCOM ?
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 12:58:25 PM EDT
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You mean like the NYers that founded ARFCOM ?
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Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.
You mean like the NYers that founded ARFCOM ?


Shining throne of conservatism
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:07:11 PM EDT
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Where does this nonsense come from?  Democrats own all big tech, all media, make up most of the teachers, and run/work in all these other woke companies but people here keep saying "Democrats don't work".    Do you really think 62% of New York doesn't work?
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I wonder if the gov gave any thought to what happens when all the producers leave, and there's only takers left?

Where does this nonsense come from?  Democrats own all big tech, all media, make up most of the teachers, and run/work in all these other woke companies but people here keep saying "Democrats don't work".    Do you really think 62% of New York doesn't work?
Sure they work. But what do they actually produce? Leftists don't tend to produce necessary goods.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:09:10 PM EDT
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Ithaca is a liberal shithole, but drive ten minutes in any direction and you'll see Trump flags everywhere for hours until you hit the next decent sized city.
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Tammany Hall politicians gonna Tammany Hall.
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It's not even conservative by land area when Schumer is running for re-election. He wins almost every county from Montauk to the Canadian border.
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He’s also the only Democrat that gets a pass on taking money from the Israel lobby, wonder why? Lols.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:17:20 PM EDT
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The true conservative ones are welcome. If they're anything like some of the gun control republican legislators in florida here now then they can stay where they're at.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:35:48 PM EDT
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Would you expect anything less from the “Empire State”?

The name wasn’t a compliment.
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Link Posted: 8/26/2022 1:49:11 PM EDT
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If every registered Republican would leave NY and CA, and disperse to other States, the Electoral College Map would turn solid Red for a century.
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Tell me more, I’m listening. You paint with pretty broad strokes pal.
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Please don't invite people here.
Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.


Tell me more, I’m listening. You paint with pretty broad strokes pal.

It's funny how so many people think they know all about NY, but have never spent much time north of I90. I know a lot of NYers that are very much like us and just hate the idea of leaving their state no matter how fucked up the cesspool of the city is.
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 2:08:49 PM EDT
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Lower their population and number of representatives.
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We're full!
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I think we’re starting to see a slow spin up of a war between states.

TX seems their illegal invaders to NY
NY tells Republicans to leave the state
Gavin Newsome starts meddling in FL and TX politics

At some point, a liberal state is going to try and enforce their laws in a conservative state, or a conservative state is going to retaliate, and then things get sporty.
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It's funny how so many people think they know all about NY, but have never spent much time north of I90. I know a lot of NYers that are very much like us and just hate the idea of leaving their state no matter how fucked up the cesspool of the city is.
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Please don't invite people here.
Yeah be very careful about this. "Conservative" new yuckers are not actually conservative, they are just less left wing.


Tell me more, I’m listening. You paint with pretty broad strokes pal.

It's funny how so many people think they know all about NY, but have never spent much time north of I90. I know a lot of NYers that are very much like us and just hate the idea of leaving their state no matter how fucked up the cesspool of the city is.


Well, you just confirmed that New Yorkers value familiar surroundings greater than having more freedom in another state. Yes or no?
Link Posted: 8/26/2022 2:38:25 PM EDT
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As soon as my kids are out of school.  Peace out.
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