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I heard some liberal woman whining that he's the Third Horseman of the Apocalypse.....I guess he is for them.
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On Monday, Justice Neil Gorsuch revealed himself to be everything that liberals had most feared: pro-gun, pro–travel ban, anti-gay, anti–church/state separation. He is certainly more conservative than Justice Samuel Alito and possibly to the right of Justice Clarence Thomas. He is an uncompromising reactionary and an unmitigated disaster for the progressive constitutional project. And he will likely serve on the court for at least three more decades. Although Gorsuch has barely been on the bench for two months, he has already had an opportunity to weigh in on some of the most pressing constitutional issues of our time. In each case, he has chosen the most conservative position. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_breakfast_table/features/2017/supreme_court_june_2017/neil_gorsuch_is_everything_liberals_feared_and_more.html View Quote 2 or 3 more like him on SCOTUS would be epic. Quoted:
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Well, you are only 1 of 300 or so million other people who love to deny another group fundamental rights, so you are in good company! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That is clearly a matter of perception, IMO he's 100% not broken Obergefell was a travesty for objective law second only to RvW. |
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I think what they meant to say is that he isn't going to advocate giving out special carve out 'rights' to people who are LGBT, nor should he or any other SCJ. To a liberal, this makes him anti gay because liberals are stupid. View Quote |
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No, actually its more the opposite. They want the same right as you even though you eat vagina. You are referencing the very vocal very polarized 1% to justify completely denying a large majority of them the simple, simple right that you enjoy. Equal legal protections in marriage. View Quote |
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If Pres. Trump does get several more SC appointments (and it sure looks like he will) and succeeds in moving the court to a more originalist constitutional footing, I have no doubt that the next time the democrats have the senate and presidency they will try to pack the court as FDR threatened to do, and add enough justices to dilute the conservative majority.
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If Pres. Trump does get several more SC appointments (and it sure looks like he will) and succeeds in moving the court to a more originalist constitutional footing, I have no doubt that the next time the democrats have the senate and presidency they will try to pack the court as FDR threatened to do, and add enough justices to dilute the conservative majority. It's all about power with the left. The only way to prevent it is with a constitutional amendment setting the Supreme Court to nine justices. View Quote |
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Saw the slanted verbiage in the first sentence, saw "slate.com" in the URL, and stopped right there.
MAGA, baby! |
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No, try Equal protection under the Law. You know, stuff that even in the 1860s people could agree on but for some reason some arfcommers want to deny / ignore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are you speaking of the "fundamental right" to Other People's Stuff? Like Healthcare, Income, etc.? What right in particular (beyond 2nd Amendment and slavery) was freely practiced in 1860 and no longer allowed today? |
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...So fundalmental it didn't exist for 99% for the country's history, and the underlying behavior was criminalized for 95% of that. Yet you're so shortsighted you're ok with letting 5 unelected bureaucrats suddenly find a right buried in an ancient legal document(that somehow everyone else had missed for a quarter millennia)and unilaterally impose a massive shift in social mores on the nation. Obergefell was a travesty for objective law second only to RvW. View Quote Yep, I totally see where you are coming from. Obergefell is definitely the rock on which the crumbling of society sits. Its too bad America isnt founded on the principles of equality and fair treatment, and more a shame its population is so supportive of discrimination. Keep fighting the good fight to keep those fucking gays oppressed. |
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No, actually its more the opposite. They want the same right as you even though you eat vagina. You are referencing the very vocal very polarized 1% to justify completely denying a large majority of them the simple, simple right that you enjoy. Equal legal protections in marriage. Hopefully though states wont waste time on unimportant things like....I dont know.....Immigration, gun rights, taxes, property rights.....And get back to trying to challenge something as important and devastating as gay marriage. Cause thats what matters, whether 2 people can get married. |
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I'm afraid you will have to spell it out for me. What right in particular (beyond 2nd Amendment and slavery) was freely practiced in 1860 and no longer allowed today? View Quote |
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Equal protection under the law. Not a hard concept. Go research that one. Although today they have it better than in 1860.....But onyl as long as Republicans dont get the chance to change that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm afraid you will have to spell it out for me. What right in particular (beyond 2nd Amendment and slavery) was freely practiced in 1860 and no longer allowed today? |
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Two more, give us two more. http://2xkcvt35vyxycuy7x23e0em1a5g.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-Sleeping.jpg View Quote |
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There is no place for Snowflake Justice on the bench. I pray the Lord will make provisions to solidify the court for another generation.
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Do you realize how many cases that covers? Which equal protection are you referring to? The Slaughterhouse case? View Quote |
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Ha! Nothing....yet. Am I to assume you will support Democrats in the future, because they havent banned guns, only the previous Democrats have? View Quote The SC serves a very important role, to make sure the legislative branch does not violate the constitution. It's also very important that Justices do not overstep that role. It's not a Justice's job to use their authority to advance causes and agendas that they agree with. The legislative branch is there to represent ideological agendas and to try to influence the law to reflect people's views. The exclusive reason the Supreme Court exists is to ensure that they don't violate our founding documents while they do it. So a Justice should rule on things based purely on whether or not it violates the constitution, regardless of their own views on the subject. Not influence law to reflect what they think it should be. That's not their job. That's Congress' job. I agree with you that gay couples should be treated exactly the same as straight couples under the law in every conceivable way. But there is an appropriate path to advance such an agenda, and that path does not involve the Supreme Court. Appologies if this response is a little long winded. |
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I want to see that empty bag of bones gone as much as everyone else does. However, I truly think that RBG will never step down. She is hanging on hard because she doesn't want the court to go ultra hardcore conservative.
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Two more, give us two more. http://2xkcvt35vyxycuy7x23e0em1a5g.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-Sleeping.jpg View Quote |
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The equal protection as listed on something as basic as the declaration of independence..... All men are equal. You can argue scemantics all you want to justify unequal treatment. View Quote You're on the wrong side of history. |
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The equal protection as listed on something as basic as the declaration of independence..... All men are equal. You can argue scemantics all you want to justify unequal treatment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do you realize how many cases that covers? Which equal protection are you referring to? The Slaughterhouse case? You still haven't stated one damn thing about why you think this is bad. My only conclusion is that you are a bitter Bernie supporter or something, for reasons unknown. If I go through the list of "common issues" from 1860 to today: Slavery - Banned in 1800s Abortion - Only possible in very recent times Homosexuality - only existed in recent times, earlier times resulted in death Transexual - Not possible in earlier times. Healthcare - Only available in recent times Income - Work for what you get, not doing so, 19th century again. I seriously can not come up with ANYTHING that was commonplace in 1860 that is banned today beyond slavery and burning of witches. |
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...So fundalmental it didn't exist for 99% for the country's history, and the underlying behavior was criminalized for 95% of that. Yet you're so shortsighted you're ok with letting 5 unelected bureaucrats suddenly find a right buried in an ancient legal document(that somehow everyone else had missed for a quarter millennia)and unilaterally impose a massive shift in social mores on the nation. Obergefell was a travesty for objective law second only to RvW. View Quote Acceptance of inter-racial marriage was around 17% at the time. Something Southern Baptists also protested (inter-racial marriage, along with having to give up slavery, etc., etc., etc.) |
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“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.” - Thomas Jefferson
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia#Decision Something Southern Baptists also protested (inter-racial marriage, along with having to give up slavery, etc., etc., etc.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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...So fundalmental it didn't exist for 99% for the country's history, and the underlying behavior was criminalized for 95% of that. Yet you're so shortsighted you're ok with letting 5 unelected bureaucrats suddenly find a right buried in an ancient legal document(that somehow everyone else had missed for a quarter millennia)and unilaterally impose a massive shift in social mores on the nation. Obergefell was a travesty for objective law second only to RvW. Something Southern Baptists also protested (inter-racial marriage, along with having to give up slavery, etc., etc., etc.) |
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“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.” - Thomas Jefferson View Quote |
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Slavery was abolished by the View Quote Why did "God" change his mind about this and slavery? Southern Baptists were founded in order to defend slavery. |
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Translation: "the law should be what FlyWire55 believes is right." View Quote You actually need to think. Not just pass the buck unto someone else. |
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“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.” - Thomas Jefferson View Quote "progress of the human mind" FORWARD! Debauchery! PIZZA!!! lol! |
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What amendment mandated all states recognize race-mixers "marriage"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Slavery was abolished by the Why did "God" change his mind about this and slavery? Southern Baptists were founded in order to defend slavery. |
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Translation: You actually have to think about things yourself. Jefferson also had slaves (like it or not). This need to worship something/someone absolutely dogmatically (and putting one's fingers in their ears to criticism) is odd and troubling. You actually need to think. Not just pass the buck unto someone else. View Quote |
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Constitution is a Living Document, just like the Bible. It needs to change with the times, y'know. View Quote I'm glad we don't think slavery is permissible anymore, despite what the Bible says, too .......... and what Southern Baptists literally schism'ed over. |
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None. Liberal judicial activism started in earnest with the Warren Court of the 1950s and was the general modus operandi of the Court until the 80s when it started to be challenged by Originalist/textualist justices. Loving was decided in what, '67? Some would argue that the 14th Amendment applies to interracial marriages. And while I disagree, it's definitely a stronger argument than saying the 14th applies to homo " marriages." When the 14th was drafted interracial marriages were actually a thong and a topic of legal discourse. View Quote |
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