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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:39:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the hell is wrong with these people, Cuba, Russia and Venezuela tried Goverment farms and then there was famine. WTF And who's still in power in Cuba, Russia, and Venezuela? I guess you know the why and the who. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:39:26 AM EDT
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Europe has become soft. They don’t have a good track record of fighting back against tyranny. Look at France. They have been riddled with terrorist attacks, having their own country being taken over by Muslim extremists, crime at an all time high, and are still beholden to their climate Gods. They forgot how they were taken over by Italy and Germany, or maybe they liked it
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:42:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Population control is the real answer. The fake news media answer is climate change. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:42:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they want to kill off billions of people? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because they want to kill off billions of people? This, and have total control over the ones that will be left. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:42:48 AM EDT
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The 3k farmers might make a stand but they don’t really stand a chance against a government with public funding. Especially nowadays when bucking the system automatically gets you pegged as a radical.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:43:10 AM EDT
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Sounds like the Dutch OD'd on that AOC kool-aid.
well, they voted for those politicians, govt, they get what they deserve. Ultimate stupidity. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:45:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then starve you stupid m-fuckers.  Nobody making these rules will miss a single meal. Starving is for peasants. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:45:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because things that have been called conspiracy theories a few years ago are now coming true. We need to take a hard look at those who accuse us of spreading conspiracy theories. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:46:13 AM EDT
[#9]
European citizens are going to really wish they had a lot more guns
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:47:05 AM EDT
[#10]
the dutch should start harvesting their bureaucrats and politicians.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:47:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whats the difference between this and blacks forcibly removing white farmers from their farmer in South Africa, Zimbabwe etc? The only difference is the stated motive. The real motive is the same. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are they pissed about nitrogen…you know, the gas that naturally constitutes 78% of our atmosphere? It’s not about the truth. It’s about control. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:48:37 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can see the commercials in 2 years, crying grannies, weeping babies,,broken wooden shoes "In the Netherlands today, people are starving and you and ONLY YOU can help call 1800FeedtheDutch and make your donation today.." profile pic checks out. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:50:42 AM EDT
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Farming in Europe is not like farming in the U.S. In Europe, land and land ownership is at a premium. Very few people have the ability to buy land and cultivate it. Even in large countries with open country side, still very few people own land. Those who do own land pay massive taxes and farms are regulated into oblivion. The government wants the land as much as the farms. England was pushing back against this at one time, and attempting to be self sufficient, but that changes on a whim. It is a shame, it wasn’t like this just 80 years ago.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:52:57 AM EDT
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Same is going to happen here. Bill Gates is buying up all the farm land he can so he can farm "the right way" when the shoe drops.
He'll be one of the few that are permitted to grow food for the elite because they will have a fake carbon zero method that only he uses cause he's so smart. Truth is he will have lobbied and bribed his way into taking out independent farmers by force of the government so he can be left as one of a few monopolists that control what's grown. He and the idiots in charge will genuinely believe that it will be a net good for mother earth and their pockets so they will have no reservations about the millions of deaths... not that Bill is concerned about that anyway. He's literally antihumanist. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:53:06 AM EDT
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Nobody will starve to death but they will pay more for food and have less for other things because of this government intervention.
The people starving get fed tax dollar food so nobody is starving, they're just paying more in taxes and more for their products ... just like we're doing because the government is tampering with the energy market amount others. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:54:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because you will eat ze bugs and like it ! |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:57:29 AM EDT
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Well, there it is: something more insane than commie-era agriculture practices.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 7:59:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just received something something demanding I lawfully answer questions about my small farm,.. You can probably guess who it is from based on this thread. #metoo |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:02:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, if they do, them, the Canadians and the Chinese are going to make Americans look like a bunch of bitches. Canadians already made Americans look like bitches. I'm wondering what if anything they'll do about the new gun laws. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:04:50 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Farming in Europe is not like farming in the U.S. In Europe, land and land ownership is at a premium. Very few people have the ability to buy land and cultivate it. Even in large countries with open country side, still very few people own land. Those who do own land pay massive taxes and farms are regulated into oblivion. The government wants the land as much as the farms. England was pushing back against this at one time, and attempting to be self sufficient, but that changes on a whim. It is a shame, it wasn’t like this just 80 years ago. Clarksons Farm was eye opening to what the English have to go through and he probably had it easy compared to some because he has a small modicum of clout. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:05:20 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The government wants to nationalize farms. That's what environmentalism is all about. Communism. After all the private farms go under, the government buys it all up. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:02 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The farmers will do nothing. Do they have the means to do something? If all they have are single-shot shotguns and birdshot, yeah, that will not go well. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:08:38 AM EDT
[#24]
Ultimate NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard). Just like drilling for oil in Venezuala instead of the US. OK if the crops are grown somewhere else and imported.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:11:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Too much of it can really wreak havoc on waterways, since it is a nutrient, overgrowth of certain species of plant life and algae blooms. So I'm assuming their issue is runoff. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:12:26 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are they pissed about nitrogen…you know, the gas that naturally constitutes 78% of our atmosphere? Not nitrogen gas, “fixed” nitrogen in the form of ammonia (NH3), urea, uric acid, nitrates, etc produced by animals and also run-off from fertilizing crops. These nitrogen’s do end up in waterways and cause algae blooms. However, it’s the carbon dioxide from those same animals that have the commies hyperventilating. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? WEF |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:13:52 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: new zealand govt is going to tax farmers on emissions. We are not far behind. Our dear leader is also a klaus schwab ball gargler. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/432086/Poem_by_Martin_Niemoeller_at_the_the_Hol-2617626.JPG and this is why 'they' will win. If they actually did the first one, the rest would not be a problem. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:14:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They always go after the farmers first. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Coming to a country near you! They always go after the farmers first. 
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:14:37 AM EDT
[#30]
I'd start digging bunkers and trenches in a series of fall back positions. Make them pay a lot more than what they thought for the land.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:14:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Peak killtractor building time.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:15:36 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not nitrogen gas, “fixed” nitrogen in the form of ammonia (NH3), urea, uric acid, nitrates, etc produced by animals and also run-off from fertilizing crops. These nitrogen’s do end up in waterways and cause algae blooms. However, it’s the carbon dioxide from those same animals that have the commies hyperventilating. https://www.anl.gov/article/how-can-we-further-reduce-co2-emissions-new-study-reveals-algae-can-help Ironic |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:18:17 AM EDT
[#33]
I find this hard to believe.
If it is true I hope there the people of the Netherlands find a solution. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:19:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not going to end well. Yes it will, for the gov that is. The farmers will sell their land and have the noose further tightened around their necks. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:21:33 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd start digging bunkers and trenches in a series of fall back positions. Make them pay a lot more than what they thought for the land. They'll probably just send in the military instead of local police. Honestly, I have nothing within the COC to say about how I'd react or what I'd do, it wouldn't be to wait for them to come to my farm though. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:22:53 AM EDT
[#36]
Eva Vlaardingerbroek
 has been talking about this for months.  Dutch farmers protest: 'They're stealing Dutch farmers' land' | Eva Vaardingerbroek |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:23:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then starve you stupid m-fuckers. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:23:43 AM EDT
[#38]
Their goal is population reduction. They are pretty open about that. It is bad optics to just kill a few hundred million people. But, starve them to death... well, a cooperative media can explain to the people that "they" are the only solution....
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:24:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They always go after the farmers first. Mao and Stalin killed millions through agricultural destruction. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:25:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: European citizens are going to really wish they had a lot more guns Something, something, Ukraine. I can see a grain for guns trade happening |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:28:28 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Their goal is population reduction. They are pretty open about that. It is bad optics to just kill a few hundred million people. But, starve them to death... well, a cooperative media can explain to the people that "they" are the only solution.... As if the environmental impact of shutting down farms in a country that is two-thirds the size of West Virginia is going to be more than a drop in the bucket globally. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:30:33 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Clarksons Farm was eye opening to what the English have to go through and he probably had it easy compared to some because he has a small modicum of clout. He did all the red tape behind the scenes and I am sure he pays people to deal with all the government regulations, paperwork, their version of the EPA etc.. . He is one of the biggest celebrities in England, so I am sure it was a lot easier for him. Don’t get me wrong, farming here has a lot of oversight and government BS, but you can still do it. I am a first generation farmer and started from scratch on raw land. The established multi generational farms are entirely different. Those are the guys who put food on grocery store shelves and are upping the game when it comes to technology, yield production, genetics etc.. Many of those farmers, in Europe and a little here, are told by the government what they have to grow. Corn for example. Corn is hard to grow, takes a lot of water, has little to no nutritional value, vulnerable to insects, costly to grow, takes specialized machinery. The U.S. government has labs underground doing genetic alterations of corn and creates new strains and make combat all these things. They provide the seeds to farmers and subsidize them to grow it. It is not for human consumption, it is for bio fuel, animal feed and even media blasting. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:33:02 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be time for some of us to help out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: IF this actually comes to pass, we shall see what those farmers are made of. Whi knows Hopefully they're are stashes still hidden across there country 
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:33:38 AM EDT
[#44]
The green cult is retarded.
Our society cannot function / survive if we remove fossil fuels currently, they obsess over removing pollution to insane levels, eager to take a country with already very, very low pollution, and wreck their economy / food production in a effort to cut pollution 1/10th of a percent. Happy to destroy our society for lowering pollution very, very slightly. Meanwhile, planning to buy the products / food they sacrificed manufacturing fighting pollution in their home countries, from countries with insane levels of out of control pollution, which will only increase. The earth would benefit more by dropping china and India’s pollution 1%, which would probably be more than all of Europe pollutes in a year combined, than destroying their economy to drop their pollution 1/10th a percent, which is effectively nothing at this point. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:35:51 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just received something something demanding I lawfully answer questions about my small farm,.. You can probably guess who it is from based on this thread. You don't have to answer shit unless it's from the st of Tn. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:36:37 AM EDT
[#46]
The green thing is a cult. Europe is effectively pollution free at this point, destroying their economies to cut their already extremely low pollution levels a tiny percent more which will make zero impact, while China / India freely pollutes to insane levels to manufacture the shit Europe stopped making.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:37:40 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can see the commercials in 2 years, crying grannies, weeping babies,,broken wooden shoes "In the Netherlands today, people are starving and you and ONLY YOU can help call 1800FeedtheDutch and make your donation today.." They did this to themselves. Until the people who made these rules are hanging from lampposts, they get nothing. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:39:51 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I find this hard to believe. If it is true I hope there the people of the Netherlands find a solution. Me too. A final one. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:41:31 AM EDT
[#49]
The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that.
This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won  Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case  |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 8:42:09 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd start digging bunkers and trenches in a series of fall back positions. Make them pay a lot more than what they thought for the land. Scheduling late night spur of the moment “ meetings “, at the homes of the people who are responsible would accomplish more than that. The problem is the people at the top, not the cops enforcing their orders. Although the cops are too, history shows there are always enforcers, fixing requires having energetic discussions with the top people “ one on one “. |
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