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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:53:52 AM EDT
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No fuel, no food. Good times coming in the future.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:53:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that needs to be shut down is the WEF. They're a terrorist organization who openly commit crimes against humanity. The rest is COC. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:55:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because every commie gov has to have a genocide. It's their staple. Last century alone it was in the hundreds of millions. This century, they will outperform themselves and go to billions. And some clowns (even in this forum) try to convince others that the WEF is just an innocuous and toothless organization. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 9:56:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because every commie gov has to have a genocide. It's their staple. Last century alone it was in the hundreds of millions. This century, they will outperform themselves and go to billions. And some clowns (even in this forum) try to convince others that the WEF is just an innocuous and toothless organization. The kind of people that think time in = merit are the same people who think that shit. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:00:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won  Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp Dutch farmers are some of the most productive in the entire world. I honestly hope making their way to the US would be an option with that buyout money. If they invest the money in a business here they go to the front of the line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/eb-5-immigrant-investor-program |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:01:50 AM EDT
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"Gentilemen, prepare to defend yourselves!"
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:02:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they want to kill off billions of people? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because they want to kill off billions of people? When people are starving, they're much more likely to turn to the government for help. Folks will give up a lot to get fed. Starvation is an important step in converting to communism/socialism. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:02:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are they pissed about nitrogen…you know, the gas that naturally constitutes 78% of our atmosphere? I assume nitrogen based fertilizers and ammonia (NH3). |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:04:47 AM EDT
[#9]
Evil is out there boys. It works through truly stupid people. It's going to get interesting over there.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:05:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not going to end well. No, it won't. These radicals will eventually trigger a major war pushing this shit. The french revolution ended with guillotines for the aristocracy and you can only wonder what will happen when these people finally have had enough. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:13:59 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that needs to be shut down is the WEF. They’re a terrorist organization who openly commit crimes against humanity. The rest is COC. That FPNI thing. Uncanny. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:15:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to hear about food shortages and starving people in the EU.  Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:16:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They once ruled the world. Iirc, they lent us money to fight the Brits and then get our new government rolling. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:18:48 AM EDT
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My guess is the Dutch farmers will do nothing beyond making angry noises.
My worry is that this is soon to be implemented here in the USA. And when they do try, our own countrymen on the left and right coasts will either be totally in favor of it or be silent and let it happen. The disconnect between the cities and the countryside has never been more diametrically opposed in my memory. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:20:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These people are useful idiots who still think the government is looking out for them, and that elections are legitimate. Probably government employees, unionized employees, servicemembers, LEOs, etc. (this is a generalization and not all are like this, but a huge chunk are) The kind of people that think time in = merit are the same people who think that shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because every commie gov has to have a genocide. It's their staple. Last century alone it was in the hundreds of millions. This century, they will outperform themselves and go to billions. And some clowns (even in this forum) try to convince others that the WEF is just an innocuous and toothless organization. The kind of people that think time in = merit are the same people who think that shit. The USSR and similar showed how well it ended up. What pisses me off is that those fuckers drag down entire populations of passive silent majorities with them. We are going to another ride soon. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:20:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to hear about food shortages and starving people in the EU. Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. Don't forget Sri Lanka went full organic and the following year saw food and fuel shortages with people storming and occupying the capitol, police stations, and presidential palace; dragging beaurocrats out in the street and beating them, while most officials fled the country. 
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:22:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Farm "buyback" program?  Turn in your high capacity farms! More or less |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:23:30 AM EDT
[#18]
So what do they plan on eating?
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:24:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is going to be hard to believe, but the only countries ahead of The Netherlands in swine production is China and the US (and, last time I looked a few years ago, we weren't that far ahead). Shutting down farms isn't good for any of us and, frankly, is only going to help us get to a possible famine that much faster. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not going to end well. This is going to be hard to believe, but the only countries ahead of The Netherlands in swine production is China and the US (and, last time I looked a few years ago, we weren't that far ahead). Shutting down farms isn't good for any of us and, frankly, is only going to help us get to a possible famine that much faster. Ve had not an inkling dis wud lead to famine. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:24:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When people are starving, they're much more likely to turn to the government for help. Folks will give up a lot to get fed. Starvation is an important step in converting to communism/socialism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because they want to kill off billions of people? When people are starving, they're much more likely to turn to the government for help. Folks will give up a lot to get fed. Starvation is an important step in converting to communism/socialism. The hundreds of millions starved to death by those regimes show how well this worked out, and also show that mankind's idiocy remains and why History repeats itself. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:24:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Then starve you stupid m-fuckers.  Forest for the trees... |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:25:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Ban fat people that fart a lot first.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:26:15 AM EDT
[#23]
The farmers will do nothing. Americans wouldn't do anything either.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:26:57 AM EDT
[#24]
It seems like the Dutch people would get tired of these fascists after their WWII experience.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:27:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what do they plan on eating? Bugs probably |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:27:17 AM EDT
[#26]
The next step will be for their government to move people away from coastal areas, eliminate the dikes and polders flooding the "artificial" land, and shrink the geographic size of the country. If you don't like it move to a freer EU country.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:27:23 AM EDT
[#27]
Russia and UKR war creating food shortage.
Netherlands is the 2nd largest exporter of food in the world, (behind the US). WEF demands Netherlands shut down 3000 farms. Evil exists. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:27:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Evil is out there boys. It works through truly stupid people. It's going to get interesting over there. "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous." Dietrich Bonhoeffer |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:28:36 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget Sri Lanka went full organic and the following year saw food and fuel shortages with people storming and occupying the capitol, police stations, and presidential palace; dragging beaurocrats out in the street and beating them, while most officials fled the country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to hear about food shortages and starving people in the EU. Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. Don't forget Sri Lanka went full organic and the following year saw food and fuel shortages with people storming and occupying the capitol, police stations, and presidential palace; dragging beaurocrats out in the street and beating them, while most officials fled the country. That's the mistake. They should hang them on the lamp posts instead of letting them flee and do it again somewhere else. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:29:03 AM EDT
[#30]
 This is top down, technocrat governance at its finest... Jesus these people are insane. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:29:22 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be time for some of us to help out. Help with what?  We can’t even clean up the mess in our country, how the hell do you think you’ll make a difference in theirs?
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:31:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The hundreds of millions starved to death by those regimes show how well this worked out, and also show that mankind's idiocy remains and why History repeats itself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why are we fucking with food production? Because they want to kill off billions of people? When people are starving, they're much more likely to turn to the government for help. Folks will give up a lot to get fed. Starvation is an important step in converting to communism/socialism. The hundreds of millions starved to death by those regimes show how well this worked out, and also show that mankind's idiocy remains and why History repeats itself. People are so fucking stupid and ignorant of history, they're literally taking orders from a German man who's hell-bent on controlling the world and shaping it to his ideals. The motherfucker was born in Nazi-controlled Germany. "Oh this time it's different" for the 87th time. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:35:31 AM EDT
[#33]
All part of the WEF depopulation plan.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:36:17 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the hell is wrong with these people, Cuba, Russia and Venezuela tried Goverment farms and then there was famine. WTF It's called managed depopulation |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:37:02 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IF this actually comes to pass, we shall see what those farmers are made of. I hope that their (farmer) response makes the government back down. Ideally the farmers would react now with overwhelming force that it would end the green movement. People can imagine suitable responses but it should make the national news around the world. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:40:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, whomever is telling you it's about a treaty and not climate cultists is full of shit. Last year, Netherlands failed at it's treaty for defense spending in NATO by about 0.55% GDP. Which is middle of the pack among other Yurp countries that failed to do this. This is a MUCH BIGGER TREATY FAILURE and I betcha a warm beer that there is no push to fix that issue. Also, I will be using "Yurp" in my vocabulary from now on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp Last year, Netherlands failed at it's treaty for defense spending in NATO by about 0.55% GDP. Which is middle of the pack among other Yurp countries that failed to do this. This is a MUCH BIGGER TREATY FAILURE and I betcha a warm beer that there is no push to fix that issue. Also, I will be using "Yurp" in my vocabulary from now on. Fun fact commie judges WIL force the gov to issue a building stop for a rare mouse BUT wil not force the gov to spend more on weapons. Just like US juges in commie states wil happily read the right to abortion in to the constitution but at the same time say that the constitution doesn't say that you can have guns. Tis because they are commies and in our weird system judges select new judges and the population doesn't get a say in it. In this case the gov had been using a nitrogen calculation system for the farmers that was good for them but envio nazis took it to court and got the calculation system overturned. The farmers case is 100% about nitrogen but the shitstains that do those cases also bitch about CO2 climate change but that was not the issue in this case. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:46:11 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much nitrogen is being used? I know the east coast is having to use a lot, and other fertilizers, because the land has been farmed on for so long. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp How much nitrogen is being used? I know the east coast is having to use a lot, and other fertilizers, because the land has been farmed on for so long. Completly not my field so no idea but the main issue is with the amount of manure produced and the particulate blowing over to protected areas 'next door' The shit tey want to protect looks like this. I personally not give a shit if it turns in to forest becuase of more fertilizer in the ground.  |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:46:35 AM EDT
[#38]
Wouldn't surprise me if this is some land grab by shady real estate developers.
 Quote HistoryQuoted: Blood is a high nitrogen fertilizer. There is some irony in there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: “Nitrogen Minister”? Holy shit. Blood is a high nitrogen fertilizer. There is some irony in there.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:51:32 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When people are starving, they're much more likely to turn to the government for help. Folks will give up a lot to get fed. Starvation is an important step in converting to communism/socialism. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:53:10 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No western country is gonna go HAM, and on the. 0.87% chance they do it'll get shutdown hella quick. Look at COVID  Attached File
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:53:44 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Completly not my field so no idea but the main issue is with the amount of manure produced and the particulate blowing over to protected areas 'next door' The shit tey want to protect looks like this. I personally not give a shit if it turns in to forest becuase of more fertilizer in the ground. https://www.wandel.nl/media/5m4hosc2/cid1600_hei-paars.jpg?center=0.56133266027258966,0.71882887430590614&mode=crop&width=1280&height=640&rnd=132797419575900000&quality=90&format=jpg Is that nature preserve with the starving horses included in this battle? |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:54:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Farming is vital to survival.
If the farms were not making money or not needed they would die on their own. Going to get interesting. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:54:43 AM EDT
[#43]
Glad my great grandmother escaped with her folks in 1917.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 10:55:31 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like the Dutch OD'd on that AOC kool-aid. well, they voted for those politicians, govt, they get what they deserve. Ultimate stupidity. Location checks out Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:02:44 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The number is about 750 farms that wil be forces to close but they do get about 120-150% of their value as compensation. To be honest I myself would love my house to eminent domain'ed but I get that some people don't want that. This is not about climate change but about nitrogen deposition in the surrounding area affecting protected nature reserves that we are treaty bound to protect. We have some sandy land areas with poor soil that are home to certain species that dissapear if the soil gets better and that were the problem lies. I myself say 'fuck it commies' but it is the law and the farms could tecnically stay IF they would be able to not have stuff land next to them but this is often cost prohibative. NL is a microscopic country with one of the highest population densities in Yurp and thus the wold but we are a large produce exporter due to high intensity of our farms. The govenment was fine and pro farmers UNTIL eviromental groups started a test case to forece the gov to act and they won Like I said I would just say fuck that treaty bullshit but people get all senitive about that. Shithead that did the test case https://images0.persgroep.net/rcs/2n-u2MrR_f4bafsLaVCCBa8oLGc/diocontent/157021444/_fitwidth/763?appId=93a17a8fd81db0de025c8abd1cca1279&quality=0.8&desiredformat=webp  Attached FiletHe LaW iS ThE lAw Well, don't come here blubbering about the price of food in the future. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:03:25 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the mistake. They should hang them on the lamp posts instead of letting them flee and do it again somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to hear about food shortages and starving people in the EU. Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. Don't forget Sri Lanka went full organic and the following year saw food and fuel shortages with people storming and occupying the capitol, police stations, and presidential palace; dragging beaurocrats out in the street and beating them, while most officials fled the country. That's the mistake. They should hang them on the lamp posts instead of letting them flee and do it again somewhere else. You do the best you can with what you've got I guess lol. It's kinda hard to get large groups mobile without fuel... |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:08:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous." Dietrich Bonhoeffer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Evil is out there boys. It works through truly stupid people. It's going to get interesting over there. "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease. Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous." Dietrich Bonhoeffer Cope |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:08:36 AM EDT
[#48]
Mass murder in Europe? You've got to be kidding me, who would have ever thought that could happen? I mean we have the UN, EU, committees, treaties, NATO and a ton of other feel good things. A madman, German born, who wants to take over the world, kill off everyone he doesn't like and be the last guy standing? Never been done before.
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:09:45 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope the farmers are planning The fertilizer won't _____ itself. |
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Posted: 11/29/2022 11:10:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have a feeling in the next few years we're going to hear about food shortages and starving people in the EU. Not only the EU. In Asia, Bangladesh has already started similar initiative (over there it is about eliminating fertilizers) and is already showing the bad results, and right north of us, Canada has an equivalent one. Just two examples. Add on top that China had serious production problems these past couple years. Things will get sporty soon. I guess that will be the time the Globalists will decide to start trying to force people to eat bugs since there won't be anything else. All part of the plan...
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