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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:15:25 AM EDT
Anyone have one yet? Saw one at my LGS and it really looks and feels good. Available with or without manual safety...I prefer with. Looks like a handful to shoot but I hear it's not bad at all.
Thoughts? Feedback? Range report? 
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:18:32 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:19:06 AM EDT
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I want one.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:19:28 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. I'm a 9mm guy but wut? |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:21:11 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:22:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol.. wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat." |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:22:41 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:23:29 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:25:19 AM EDT
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There. Now it's right. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. What ^ guy said Its only nice for the guy who only shoots .45 and needs a subcompact and doesn't want to buy a different caliber round. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:25:48 AM EDT
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What's the capacity?
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:27:02 AM EDT
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I own one. I love it. Recoil is very manageable, the trigger is excellent, and the grip texturing is so good that Smith & Wesson should make all of the their polymer guns that way.
I've run about 50 flawless rounds through mine, and it seems to like 230gr ammo very much. The 185gr +P flying ashtrays I tried on the weekend were a bit stiffer in recoil, but nothing bad. That was the one big surprise about the gun - I expected heavy recoil, but the Shield really feels like shooting a single stack 9mm polymer gun with +P loads. ETA: and I like .45 because it resembles me - short, fat, slow. 
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:27:44 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:28:21 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. 
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:29:03 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. hmmm. Im a diehard 9mm fan but, how do you figure that? |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:29:09 AM EDT
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Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat."
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:29:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful.  |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:29:39 AM EDT
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Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". Well, the .45 Shield is virtually the same size as the 9mm Shield - about 2mm wider in the slide, and maybe a 1/2" longer. Would you call a 9mm Shield a "subcompact"? I think I would. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:30:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?  |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:30:43 AM EDT
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What's the capacity? 6+1 |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:31:35 AM EDT
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WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:32:37 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. You're going to upset the dogmatic .45acp fans ... |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:33:04 AM EDT
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Loving the know it all's who THINK they got it all figured out. "There is only one right way to do anything and that is MY way!!!!"
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:33:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:36:01 AM EDT
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And that makes it ineffective how? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? Not ineffective at all, jut inefficient and sub-optimal. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:36:03 AM EDT
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield
20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:36:52 AM EDT
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8+1, same as the 9mm according to the S&W website. So, make mine a .45 please.
Edit- Read it wrong. It's 6+1 or 7+1 depending on magazine choice. Still would choose the .45 though. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:38:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat.  |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:38:42 AM EDT
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Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". Yet here we are. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:39:43 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Only because 7,568 would be too heavy, and 7,566 might not be enough to get me to a rifle. 
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:40:29 AM EDT
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And that makes it ineffective how? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? Don't be silly, 230gr of lead that expands up to 1in (Federal HST) in some trims isn't effective anymore because current year, and internet hivemind feelings. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:41:22 AM EDT
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HIckok45 did a YT review. Go watch it.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:41:23 AM EDT
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Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:42:06 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Why on God's green earth would you want *less* ammo in a defensive pistol? |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:42:17 AM EDT
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. 
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:42:33 AM EDT
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I carry my G19 when I'm manstrating. Otherwise the G30 stays tucked.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:42:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:43:16 AM EDT
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Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. I have several, including a revolver and bolt-action rifle.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:43:38 AM EDT
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Don't bring facts into this mess.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:45:15 AM EDT
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Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Yep and I carried one in Vietnam...10mm more better. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:46:26 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:46:47 AM EDT
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If S&W came out with a 10mm or .357 sig version of the Shield I would buy them for CCW options.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:48:23 AM EDT
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We may not agree on much when it comes to 9 vs 45.
But we all know that 40 is for faggots. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:49:07 AM EDT
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:49:16 AM EDT
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Didn't 45 come out around 1904 and the 9mm around 1902?
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Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard?
Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:49:43 AM EDT
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Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:50:50 AM EDT
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Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:51:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Liberty and such...?  |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:53:49 AM EDT
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Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ Absolutely agree.....I just like bigger holes. At least in some situations.
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:58:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). I have no problem if you want to carry 9mm or the best mm which is 10. Or if you want to carry .45acp, .357sig and mag. All your business. But anytime you get on a forum with the express intent of telling other people they are wrong in their choice, you are just looking to argue. Liberty and all if that is what you want to do. But do know that those of us who carry .45acp, either all the time or on occasion, could facetiously turn your logic back on you and say you need more rounds because you are a suck shot? Or a couple other silly arguments. I won't make those, I will simply say my choice is my choice. What makes my choice wrong for you has no bearing on why it is right for me. Good luck and I hope you never encounter a personal defense situation, regardless of what caliber you are carrying. For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:59:17 AM EDT
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Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. Largely agree. How about a Glock 29 w/ 15+1 rounds of 10mm? |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 12:00:11 PM EDT
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For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. Carried the best millimeter for a few years (see screen name). 135gr JHP at 1600fps FTW!
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In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. Places like that are too gross for me to even think about long enough to do those sorts of calculations. 
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