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Posted: 9/10/2021 10:02:39 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet. It would be really hard for me not to get the mag extension coated in FDE too. I had the FDE Magpul stock but the color was too off for me so I put the black one on it. I did try to paint the extension but I didn't wait long enough for it to dry and when I put the barrel clamp on it squished some paint out and had my finger prints on it  So took the paint off and just going to do a black and FDE theme. Not sure if I am going to get the Aridus handguard or not, some people say its great, some say its alright. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 10:06:08 AM EST
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This is the version I'd like, the one without the pistol grip (not that it matters too much, I'll probably replace either stock anyway).
 It's listed as model #j131tt18c Doing a search online and through gundeals.com doesn't return anything anywhere. How are you guys finding one of these? |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 10:27:05 AM EST
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I've got a M4 on order that I snagged for 1600 last week (check is still clearing) but am I tempted to switch gears and go for this. TBH I can't make up my mind between the two. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one. But let's face it, John Wick used the M4 so...
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Posted: 9/10/2021 10:36:35 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got a M4 on order that I snagged for 1600 last week (check is still clearing) but am I tempted to switch gears and go for this. TBH I can't make up my mind between the two. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one. But let's face it, John Wick used the M4 so... The obvious answer is both. Right now I have a 1301, but I will get an M4 in the future 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 11:00:34 AM EST
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I have a 1st gen 1301 tactical that I really enjoy. Pleasant to shoot as far as shotguns go, and had been 100% reliable, even with the cheap Winchester bird shot. . I think I'm going to try to trade it out for a competition model though. I'd prefer the non ghost ring sights
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Posted: 9/10/2021 11:50:03 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's in a 1960s muscle car, and the guns are older than the car. The 8 tracks aren't there by accident. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just how freaking up to date with your shotguns do you feel the need to be? They are shotguns for Christ’s sake. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/24E28505-61BB-4204-9141-7493D15EAEFA.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Nice set of 8 tracks, my dude. Were you trying to be ironic, or did it just work out that way? He's in a 1960s muscle car, and the guns are older than the car. The 8 tracks aren't there by accident. I’m wearing one of those new fangled wristwatches as well. 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:00:43 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Slightly off-topic, but that link calls out Federal #1 Flite-control as being particularly well suited for self defense use. That ammo is now discontinued. @John_Wayne777, what do you recommend for home defense 12ga ammo? I use 8 pellet FC. #1 pellet achieves more crushed tissue, but "more" in the sense that a car going 0-60 in 2.8 seconds is faster than a car going 0-60 in 3.1 seconds. One is slightly better but the other ain't exactly slow, right? 8 pellet FC is monumentally effective in real world use. So I'm not sweating it. If you find a #1 load that gives you the pattern you want, by all means give it a go. What I'm looking for in a defensive buckshot load is an effect, not a particular round. I want a pattern that allows me to guarantee my pellets end up in the target I want to hit...including allowing me to make a shot if a loved one is in close proximity to the bad guy inside my house. (Which happens a lot more than people realize) I want the pellets to be hardened so they give reliable penetration if I don't have a straight shot to dude's goodie box. FFC gives me that and it works well in all my shotguns so I keep it on hand. If you find a #1, 0, or 00 load that patterns well for you allowing you to do all those things that isn't FC, by all means run it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:03:43 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got a M4 on order that I snagged for 1600 last week (check is still clearing) but am I tempted to switch gears and go for this. TBH I can't make up my mind between the two. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one. But let's face it, John Wick used the M4 so... He actually was slated to use the 1301. Seriously. There was some sort of import thing that came up and prevented him from using a fully tricked out 1301 with the Aridus goodies on it. Prior to that one of the technical advisors for the gun stuff in the movie had been basing it on the 1301. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:03:55 PM EST
[#9]
You guys need to stop putting this thread on page 1. It's going to force me to buy one...
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:05:55 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the version I'd like, the one without the pistol grip (not that it matters too much, I'll probably replace either stock anyway). https://www.beretta.com/assets/0/15/DimLarge/1301_tactical_zoom002.jpg It's listed as model #j131tt18c Doing a search online and through gundeals.com doesn't return anything anywhere. How are you guys finding one of these? There are a couple listed on Gunbroker at the moment...although at too-high of a price, IMO. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:09:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He actually was slated to use the 1301. Seriously. There was some sort of import thing that came up and prevented him from using a fully tricked out 1301 with the Aridus goodies on it. Prior to that one of the technical advisors for the gun stuff in the movie had been basing it on the 1301. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've got a M4 on order that I snagged for 1600 last week (check is still clearing) but am I tempted to switch gears and go for this. TBH I can't make up my mind between the two. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one. But let's face it, John Wick used the M4 so... He actually was slated to use the 1301. Seriously. There was some sort of import thing that came up and prevented him from using a fully tricked out 1301 with the Aridus goodies on it. Prior to that one of the technical advisors for the gun stuff in the movie had been basing it on the 1301. No, they copied my tattoo first, then my gun.
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:14:34 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, they copied my tattoo first, then my gun. The guns did eventually make it into film in that Amazon movie with that guy from Guardians of the Galaxy: 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:31:05 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe you're Benelli isn't reliable, but I've shot trap and skeet with mine using ghost rings and Wally World ammo. Not a single hiccup. Use it in 3-gun going back and forth between slugs and bird shot. Runs like a raped ape. So I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ergonomics, extra rounds, reliability with lighter loads and a lighter gun that does the same thing better. Maybe you're Benelli isn't reliable, but I've shot trap and skeet with mine using ghost rings and Wally World ammo. Not a single hiccup. Use it in 3-gun going back and forth between slugs and bird shot. Runs like a raped ape. So I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Agreed, my M4 has liked all the ammo I've tried, never had a ftf or fte. Bought my M4 many years ago for around $1300 or so. The Beretta looks nice, but I see no reason to buy one when I've already have the Benelli. 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:48:14 PM EST
[#14]
1301 Tactical is on my 2021 / 2022 purchase list
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Posted: 9/10/2021 12:49:06 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are a couple listed on Gunbroker at the moment...although at too-high of a price, IMO. Searched for the updated SKU and can't find it on GB |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 1:15:16 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He actually was slated to use the 1301. Seriously. There was some sort of import thing that came up and prevented him from using a fully tricked out 1301 with the Aridus goodies on it. Prior to that one of the technical advisors for the gun stuff in the movie had been basing it on the 1301. Haha, that is funny. But I can't picture the "sommelier" saying Beretta 1301 instead of Benelli M4. Too bad the new Beretta model doesn't appear to have the pic rail piece where the barrel clamp would go. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 1:52:52 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The guns did eventually make it into film in that Amazon movie with that guy from Guardians of the Galaxy: https://images.guns.com/prod/2021/07/06/60e3edca18ac6b54b99d83e3d137f41b89c0d73130b2f.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, they copied my tattoo first, then my gun. The guns did eventually make it into film in that Amazon movie with that guy from Guardians of the Galaxy: https://images.guns.com/prod/2021/07/06/60e3edca18ac6b54b99d83e3d137f41b89c0d73130b2f.jpg We saw that last week. I liked it. It actually got me looking for an aridus mount for my 590 . Wish they had one for an aimpoint
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Posted: 9/10/2021 2:05:23 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Searched for the updated SKU and can't find it on GB The ones I saw appear to be the LE SKU. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 2:10:22 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We saw that last week. I liked it. It actually got me looking for an aridus mount for my 590 . Wish they had one for an aimpointThe holes in the Mossberg are positioned such that it makes an Aimpoint model untenable, IIIRC. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 2:19:11 PM EST
[#20]
Is there any wood furniture on the market for this bad boy?
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Posted: 9/10/2021 3:38:15 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One stop shots? What's next, racking the slide to scare people off? Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing. lol |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 4:24:38 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The holes in the Mossberg are positioned such that it makes an Aimpoint model untenable, IIIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We saw that last week. I liked it. It actually got me looking for an aridus mount for my 590 . Wish they had one for an aimpointThe holes in the Mossberg are positioned such that it makes an Aimpoint model untenable, IIIRC. Thanks, good to know. Now I won't be waiting around 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 4:24:57 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Time for some clarifications: There are formally 2 generations of 1301 Tactical shotguns. The 1st gen guns have the flat bolt release and a fixed cylinder bore barrel. Beretta introduced a second gen gun that has a revised bolt release (to remove the shell dump feature that turned out to be a flaw on the 1st gen bolt release) as well as changes to the receiver including increasing the size of the loading port on the bottom of the gun and relocating the serial number in case someone wanted to have it machined to be even larger. As a result the second gen receivers are a little bit longer than the first gen. The 2nd generation guns sold to the civilian market were also supposed to come with barrels that have their screw-in choke systems. The 2nd generation guns intended for police sales still came with fixed cylinder bore barrels. Distributors sold those police guns to anyone. Which caused confusion. In addition, Beretta had a true LE only SKU that included a Nordic magazine tube extension, usually paired with a Mesa Urbino stock. This wasn't sold to the public because it didn't have enough US made parts to comply with 922r. The gun posted in the OP is a 922r compliant Gen 2 1301T with an extended magazine tube that isn't made by Nordic and a barrel that accepts their Optima chokes. (It comes with Improved Cylinder in it) It's not a third generation of 1301...it's a second gen that has been updated to meet 922r compliance so they can offer a package that the market has been asking for. My only complaint is the Mesa stock which sucks fetid donkey dick. But you can get it with a standard stock and the standard stock works well. As a 2nd Gen, I'd expect the Aridus stock adapter, forend, and CROM will fit. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 4:36:57 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, good to know. Now I won't be waiting around Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We saw that last week. I liked it. It actually got me looking for an aridus mount for my 590 . Wish they had one for an aimpointThe holes in the Mossberg are positioned such that it makes an Aimpoint model untenable, IIIRC. Thanks, good to know. Now I won't be waiting around No idea on the quality. http://www.kearms.com/ke-arms-mount-for-aimpoint-micro-mossberg-590.aspx |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 4:40:37 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea on the quality. http://www.kearms.com/ke-arms-mount-for-aimpoint-micro-mossberg-590.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We saw that last week. I liked it. It actually got me looking for an aridus mount for my 590 . Wish they had one for an aimpointThe holes in the Mossberg are positioned such that it makes an Aimpoint model untenable, IIIRC. Thanks, good to know. Now I won't be waiting around No idea on the quality. http://www.kearms.com/ke-arms-mount-for-aimpoint-micro-mossberg-590.aspx Thanks I really like having a buis. I know it's probably not needed with a t1 but old habits die hard. Besides, I just ordered the aridus 
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Posted: 9/10/2021 6:31:34 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great response. Thanks JW777. As a 2nd Gen, I'd expect the Aridus stock adapter, forend, and CROM will fit. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 8:23:05 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One stop shots? What's next, racking the slide to scare people off? Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. A full pattern of buckshot delivered to a useful location instantaneously rendering someone incapable of continuing hostilities is a real thing.  Attached FileShotguns, at the right range, with the right load, will physically remove a chunk of shit from your opponent and throw that shit on the floor. |
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Posted: 9/10/2021 9:08:12 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great response. Thanks JW777. As a 2nd Gen, I'd expect the Aridus stock adapter, forend, and CROM will fit. Yup. It'll work fine. |
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Posted: 9/11/2021 3:09:33 PM EST
[#29]
Have they updated the longer barrel versions as well?
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Posted: 9/12/2021 9:16:50 AM EST
[#30]
Any news on whether these are going to be released in ODG?
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Posted: 9/12/2021 10:01:16 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Working the action to "scare people off" has no basis in reality. I dunno about that. I haven't used a shotgun much on patrol but the one time I racked and went on target in short succession the dude appeared to have shit himself.
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Posted: 9/12/2021 10:04:20 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the version I'd like, the one without the pistol grip (not that it matters too much, I'll probably replace either stock anyway). https://www.beretta.com/assets/0/15/DimLarge/1301_tactical_zoom002.jpg It's listed as model #j131tt18c Doing a search online and through gundeals.com doesn't return anything anywhere. How are you guys finding one of these? That's the one I want too. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 12:10:56 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The big distributors are listing them, but out of stock. They are probably just starting to ship or will soon. That's the one I want too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is the version I'd like, the one without the pistol grip (not that it matters too much, I'll probably replace either stock anyway). https://www.beretta.com/assets/0/15/DimLarge/1301_tactical_zoom002.jpg It's listed as model #j131tt18c Doing a search online and through gundeals.com doesn't return anything anywhere. How are you guys finding one of these? That's the one I want too. Yes. As a weak hand reloader that does single or double reloads, Anything I can do with a pistol grip shotgun - I can do the same training course or stage faster with a regular grip. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 12:14:54 PM EST
[#34]
Okay I skipped to the last page.
Which mods do I need and which one should I get? |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 12:28:29 PM EST
[#35]
I have an A400 and a M2. I would hate to use either for self defense in my home - too damn long.
I would not mind a tactical pump - mostly because I like the idea of mini-shell's with buckshot. Plus tactical pumps tend to be smaller and lighter than my current semi auto shotguns. If I could get a reliable Kal-Tec KS7 (like one made by a different company) - at a realistic price - I probably would go that direction. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 12:41:25 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay I skipped to the last page. Which mods do I need and which one should I get? It’s a four page thread, Broski. Read it. 
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Posted: 9/12/2021 12:53:42 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better guns. I've had both and won't be selling my 1301 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it wrong that I want one of these more than a Benelli M4? Better guns. I've had both and won't be selling my 1301 It's not wrong. I have an M4 and won't be selling it but there are better shotguns, especially if one knows what they're doing with them. Quoted: This forum really hates shotguns though. They're pretty much the worst long arm choice for all sorts of things. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 1:34:44 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s a four page thread, Broski. Read it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Okay I skipped to the last page. Which mods do I need and which one should I get? It’s a four page thread, Broski. Read it. I did.  Outside of a stock adapter, I didn't see aftermarket recommendations |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 1:39:54 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did. Outside of a stock adapter, I didn't see aftermarket recommendations It’s not a Benelli M4, it’s ready to go out of the box unless you want to use the magpul stock. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 1:44:22 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not a Benelli M4, it’s ready to go out of the box unless you want to use the magpul stock. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I did. Outside of a stock adapter, I didn't see aftermarket recommendations It’s not a Benelli M4, it’s ready to go out of the box unless you want to use the magpul stock. Cool, thanks. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 5:11:50 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, thanks. Oh, and we can't find one. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 5:25:07 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I did. Outside of a stock adapter, I didn't see aftermarket recommendations I put the Aridus stock and the CROM on my guns. This new Tactical model with the magazine extension doesn't really need anything else, but you can add the Aridus handguard setup too. |
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Posted: 9/12/2021 11:39:59 PM EST
[#43]
As much as I want a 1301 I just can't swing it right now.
I did however pick up a Magpul stock and aridus mount for my 590a1 due to this thread 
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Posted: 9/13/2021 12:00:45 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No idea on the quality. http://www.kearms.com/ke-arms-mount-for-aimpoint-micro-mossberg-590.aspx I have their 870 aimpoint mount and it’s excellent. |
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Posted: 9/13/2021 6:10:44 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay I skipped to the last page. Which mods do I need and which one should I get? So far what I have done is Nordic +2 extension, Mapgul stock, planning on the Aridus handguard and CROM. Just trying to figure out if I want to go RMR or Aimpoint footprint. |
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Posted: 9/13/2021 7:49:08 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as I want a 1301 I just can't swing it right now. I did however pick up a Magpul stock and aridus mount for my 590a1 due to this thread I’ve got a 590 retro with nice wood stock and forearm. Sure is a nice shotgun. I’m really happy there aren’t any of the new 1301s in stock. |
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Posted: 9/13/2021 7:53:11 AM EST
[#47]
I don't want to add all of the Magpul stuff to my 1301, but I like having the tube extension. I'm not sure how much I should care about 922r.
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Posted: 9/13/2021 7:57:22 AM EST
[#48]
Quoted: "What do you get when you combine a 36% faster cycling cross tube gas piston and enlarged controls? That's right get ready to hear the Gospel of The Gauge! Introducing the newest member to the Beretta lineup, the enhanced Beretta 1301 Tactical. To learn more, visit the link here:" https://www.beretta.com/en-us/1301-tactical-skd/ ------------------------------ So they've been selling the 1301 Tactical Gen 2. Is this the 1301 Tactical Gen 3? What has changed? Want. Just not $1450 want.  |
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Posted: 9/13/2021 8:02:32 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't want to add all of the Magpul stuff to my 1301, but I like having the tube extension. I'm not sure how much I should care about 922r. My worry level would be just below zero. |
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Posted: 9/13/2021 8:16:13 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m wearing one of those new fangled wristwatches as well. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/026BE10A-AF98-4BE5-BC3A-C9B0C376BEAC.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just how freaking up to date with your shotguns do you feel the need to be? They are shotguns for Christ’s sake. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/24E28505-61BB-4204-9141-7493D15EAEFA.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Nice set of 8 tracks, my dude. Were you trying to be ironic, or did it just work out that way? He's in a 1960s muscle car, and the guns are older than the car. The 8 tracks aren't there by accident. I’m wearing one of those new fangled wristwatches as well. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/026BE10A-AF98-4BE5-BC3A-C9B0C376BEAC.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds This is all just an excuse to flex on the poors with your muscle car, SBS, and Rolex. It was never about shotguns 
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