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Posted: 12/4/2019 7:02:38 PM EST

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Virginia compliant pistol.

Which would be?

A squirt gun.

Posted: 12/4/2019 9:46:52 PM EST

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I'd like to see Glock reintroduce the old-style storage box.

Those "carry case" boxes SUCK.

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Who tactually uses any gun box for storage after buying a gun?

Is this a thing?

Posted: 12/4/2019 9:52:53 PM EST

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Who tactually uses any gun box for storage after buying a gun?

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I'd like to see Glock reintroduce the old-style storage box.

Those "carry case" boxes SUCK.

Who tactually uses any gun box for storage after buying a gun?

Is this a thing?

Never did quite catch on like the old cigar boxes.

Posted: 12/4/2019 9:55:00 PM EST

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A polymer frame 1911

Posted: 12/4/2019 11:45:23 PM EST

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Glock is losing marketshare, they know it, and they need to come out with something new. I am hoping they will.

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To whom? Any data or just your opinion?

Posted: 12/5/2019 12:43:16 PM EST

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I’m sure it’s been said, but I’m gonna predict a Glock USA made 5.56 mil-spec AR15. Nothing exciting, but it’s another gun they can offer to LE agencies who already issue their pistols. Will be sold to the public as well.

Posted: 12/5/2019 1:48:44 PM EST

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Glock is losing marketshare, they know it, and they need to come out with something new. I am hoping they will.

To whom? Any data or just your opinion?

I work for one of the larger firearm distributors and I see what sells and what doesn't. I can assure you that Glock does not sell like it used to.

Posted: 12/5/2019 1:54:33 PM EST

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I work for one of the larger firearm distributors and I see what sells and what doesn't. I can assure you that Glock does not sell like it used to.

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They're making some really good strides with the 43/43x/48 and the Gen 5 guns in my opinion. If they do bring out the big bores in 10mm I would jump on a 20. But, they don't really innovate. As someone said earlier, they make Glocks and they're good at it.

Posted: 12/5/2019 1:59:33 PM EST

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Cool story. It how about the hundreds of thousands of m&p satisfied customers out there? I’m a Glock guy.... but all of the current polymer guns from Glock, s&w, sig, hk, etc. are good guns. If YOU don’t like one, that’s you. The rest may disagree.

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I’m a dad with seven girls. My circle is relatively small but it includes everyone at my gun club. We’ve got one Vietnam Vet who still carries his 1911 IWB with NO holster. Every one else shoots Glock if any pistol at all. And the sheriffs deputies all shoot Glock. A couple guys like revolvers. But not one admits to having a Smith & Wesson auto loader.

Oh shit. There it is...

Cool story. It how about the hundreds of thousands of m&p satisfied customers out there? I’m a Glock guy.... but all of the current polymer guns from Glock, s&w, sig, hk, etc. are good guns. If YOU don’t like one, that’s you. The rest may disagree.

Uhhh...

I didn’t say they weren’t any good....

I said I don’t like Smith & Wesson.

Posted: 12/5/2019 2:45:18 PM EST

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Glock crock pot.

The Grockpot

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I have longed for a Tactical kitchen since the first Magpul videos came out. A Grockpot would be a requirement in my kitchen A.O. I want to dynamically enter my kitchen space, Magpul FDE spatula in low ready...

I would engage the omelet square-on but keep my work space flexible and uncluttered. It is always a challenge in the kitchen A.O. to remember to check my six. Omelet fixation is real.

Stay hungry my friends.

Posted: 12/5/2019 2:50:27 PM EST

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I want Gen 5 10mm stuff.

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:01:45 PM EST

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They're making some really good strides with the 43/43x/48 and the Gen 5 guns in my opinion. If they do bring out the big bores in 10mm I would jump on a 20. But, they don't really innovate. As someone said earlier, they make Glocks and they're good at it.

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I work for one of the larger firearm distributors and I see what sells and what doesn't. I can assure you that Glock does not sell like it used to.

They're making some really good strides with the 43/43x/48 and the Gen 5 guns in my opinion. If they do bring out the big bores in 10mm I would jump on a 20. But, they don't really innovate. As someone said earlier, they make Glocks and they're good at it.

I agree with you 100%. I am a "Glock guy" and have been since 1992. I have a 48 on me right now. With that said, I do think they need to bring out something innovative, as they are indeed losing market share to their competition.

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:04:11 PM EST

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It’s been the same pistol since gen 1... it’ll just have a diffferent grip texture and new gen marking. And probably alternate from last gen on finger grooves/no grooves on the grip.

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:07:46 PM EST

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They've been acquired by Freedom Group...

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:09:30 PM EST

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I disagree that it had been the same gun. Until gen 4 I would agree. But the Gen 5 guns are a step beyond what Glock had been before. I have always carried one on duty, but enjoyed other stuff at the range. The Gen 5 changed that, now they are almost the only pistols that go to the range with me.

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:16:44 PM EST

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I disagree that it had been the same gun. Until gen 4 I would agree. But the Gen 5 guns are a step beyond what Glock had been before. I have always carried one on duty, but enjoyed other stuff at the range. The Gen 5 changed that, now they are almost the only pistols that go to the range with me.

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I don't get why?

My first handgun was a Gen 2 G21. I currently own Gen 3, Gen 4, and a single Gen 5 G19.

The only thing I like about the Gen 5 that sticks out to me is the lack of finger grooves? What makes Gen 5 rise so high in your opinion? I'm just curious.

Posted: 12/5/2019 3:24:40 PM EST

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Posted: 12/5/2019 3:58:09 PM EST

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I agree with you 100%. I am a "Glock guy" and have been since 1992. I have a 48 on me right now. With that said, I do think they need to bring out something innovative, as they are indeed losing market share to their competition.

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Honestly, I have not been a Glock guy ever. But I now have a 43, Gen 5 19 FS and a 45. I love the 43 for more "deep concealment" or more realistically, pocket carry. I would like a 43x for the larger grip, capacity and FCS for regular concealed carry. I love the feel of the Gen 5 19 and 45. Between the lack of finger grooves and the frame texture, they work for me. The grip angle is still not my favorite, but I can deal with it. I'm now looking forward to being issued a Glock 19 next year so I can turn in my HK. For shits and giggles I took out a couple of ancient Gen 3 17s out of inventory (agency transitioned away from them ~15 years ago) and shot one back to back with my 45. I can't believe how much better my 45 felt. The trigger pull, the grip texture, everything was better on my 45. So yeah, I honestly do believe they are making the best Glocks ever right now. But, the market is saturated and I don't have your insider knowledge. I honestly would not be surprised if they are losing market share. S&W is doing some nifty things. I love my 3.6" M&P 2.0 Compact. HK's VP9 is probably the single greatest feeling polymer pistol in the world. My hand just melts into it. It will be interesting to see what Glock is going to do in the near future, what they need to do is update the big bores. Also, someone suggested a single stack 10mm like the 48. That would be sweet.

Posted: 12/5/2019 4:01:33 PM EST

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Gleet cannon!

Posted: 12/5/2019 5:06:15 PM EST

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What else would you like in a polymer handgun? I'm genuinely curious. There hasn't been any new technology invented in handguns in a long time.

Posted: 12/5/2019 5:38:03 PM EST

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Come on Gen 5 .40 S&W and maybe just maybe a single stack.

Posted: 12/5/2019 5:44:21 PM EST

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LOL

Posted: 12/5/2019 7:09:52 PM EST

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Come on Gen 5 .40 S&W and maybe just maybe a single stack.

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Gen 5 G22 and G23 already exist and are sold in Brazil.

Posted: 12/5/2019 7:11:12 PM EST

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Might be the G43X and G48 with rails that they sell in Europe.

Posted: 12/5/2019 7:30:42 PM EST

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Modular Handgun System AKA SIG 320 Knockoff.

It's right around the bend.

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Glock is losing marketshare, they know it, and they need to come out with something new. I am hoping they will.

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Modular Handgun System AKA SIG 320 Knockoff.

It's right around the bend.

Modular handgun systems are a commercial failure. The Sig Xchange system was a failure. The only reason it came back around was because if the Army. Only a few people buy and switch components, even on the 320.

The only positive was the idea of a serialized trigger group.

That may be Glocks next big thing.

Posted: 12/5/2019 7:55:37 PM EST

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Modular handgun systems are a commercial failure. The Sig Xchange system was a failure. The only reason it came back around was because if the Army. Only a few people buy and switch components, even on the 320.

The only positive was the idea of a serialized trigger group.

That may be Glocks next big thing.

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Glock is losing marketshare, they know it, and they need to come out with something new. I am hoping they will.

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Modular Handgun System AKA SIG 320 Knockoff.

It's right around the bend.

Modular handgun systems are a commercial failure. The Sig Xchange system was a failure. The only reason it came back around was because if the Army. Only a few people buy and switch components, even on the 320.

The only positive was the idea of a serialized trigger group.

That may be Glocks next big thing.

Yup, the modular system is pretty much a failure on the civilian side. On the LE/Mil side it will make itself worthwhile since a damaged pistol can be repaired. For instance, my agency has to get approval from the State Legislature to purchase more guns since they're a serialized and controlled items. If one of my agents has his duty issue Glock used as a chew toy by his dog. The gun is replaced with one in inventory or we have to approach the Legislature for a new one. With the swappable frame, the serialized component isn't replaced. So we can spend agency funds to buy a new fifty dollar frame versus spending $398 for a new pistol.

Posted: 12/5/2019 8:13:16 PM EST

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I want a 43x sized 40 s&w. Doubt they will but I still want it.

Posted: 12/5/2019 8:30:02 PM EST

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Modular handgun systems are a commercial failure. The Sig Xchange system was a failure. The only reason it came back around was because if the Army. Only a few people buy and switch components, even on the 320.

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Yeah. I bought a P320 back a few months before the Army selected it because I liked the ambi controls. Then when they selected it, I initially thought a modular pistol was a brilliant idea.

Then I came around to the conclussion that the only modularity that matters for a mass-issue sidearm is to be able to mount a flashlight, but it still made sense for civilians.

Now I think even for civilians, a modular pistol like that makes little sense. Various changes to a pistol don't dramatically change its characteristics like they do for an AR15.

Posted: 12/5/2019 9:45:09 PM EST

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Might be the G43X and G48 with rails that they sell in Europe.

https://www.gunsweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/mt_slideshow/public/archive/contents/pistols/news/glock-g43x-g48-rail/Glock-G43X-G48-Rail-Colore-09.jpg?itok=aYTX665y

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now make it in MOS and they'd be good to go

Posted: 12/5/2019 10:09:29 PM EST

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OEM metal mags like the aftermarket G43X ones that hold 15 rounds would be pretty trick....that would actually be a pretty big deal.

G43X sized .40 or .45 would be cool too though much less likely.

.25 ACP in Glock 43 or 43X sized gun. With 20 rd capacity!

It will likely be the .22 everyone thinks.

Also- Gen 5 is not much of an improvement over Gen 3 in my book. Trigger is meh- not a big improvement on the couple I have used. One was better than a worn in Gen 3 trigger, the other worse. I think the G45 is stupid and a G17 slide on a G19 frame would be better. I have put thousands of rounds thru Gen 5's in 17's, 19 and 19X/45 models, so not a small sampling. I dislike the ambi slide stop where I want my trigger finger to be resting in a ready position. (Learn to run it left handed- it isn't hard with training and practice even with Gen 1-4). Orange mag follower- big deal. Accuracy isn't better with the new barrels either from the ones I have used.

Anyhow- couple more days we will know I guess.

Posted: 12/5/2019 10:12:06 PM EST

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I would buy a Glock .22 cal in about one second. But it damn well better be accurate.

Posted: 12/5/2019 10:42:57 PM EST

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You can fit a CZ 75 double stack mag in a G43. Glock single stack mags with 2 walls (one metal liner, one polymer exterior) are the same width as other companies' single-walled metal double stack mags.

A company is currently working on a 15-round metal factory-length mag for the G43. I've been following a thread on it for months:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Glock-43X-48-Shield-Arms-15-round-mags-flush-fit/13-187683/

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Metal mags for all their guns officially increasing capacity of all current offerings.

That would give us what, +1 on everything?

You can fit a CZ 75 double stack mag in a G43. Glock single stack mags with 2 walls (one metal liner, one polymer exterior) are the same width as other companies' single-walled metal double stack mags.

A company is currently working on a 15-round metal factory-length mag for the G43. I've been following a thread on it for months:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Glock-43X-48-Shield-Arms-15-round-mags-flush-fit/13-187683/

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I knew Glock mags were chunky and inefficient, but I had no idea it was that bad.

Posted: 12/5/2019 10:47:04 PM EST

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Glock Field Knife, gen 3

Posted: 12/6/2019 1:29:04 AM EST

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Wanna bet it’s a shotgun?

Posted: 12/6/2019 1:31:45 AM EST

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yes

Posted: 12/6/2019 1:32:53 AM EST

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You know . . .
Actually, if Glock bought the rights to/developed a direct competitor to the KS7, and released it for $450, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Posted: 12/6/2019 1:34:25 AM EST

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The waffle maker we have been waiting for from Magpul

Posted: 12/6/2019 2:17:12 AM EST

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Actually, if Glock bought the rights to/developed a direct competitor to the KS7, and released it for $450, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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Wanna bet it’s a shotgun?

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Actually, if Glock bought the rights to/developed a direct competitor to the KS7, and released it for $450, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I agree...

Posted: 12/6/2019 2:24:08 AM EST

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I'm sure it's been said in the 15 pages but my money is on a glock PCC.

Would be innovative (for Glock since they don't innovative) and wouldn't take much of a stretch engineering wise to make it happen.

My money is on a PCC

Posted: 12/6/2019 2:35:53 AM EST

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What else would you like in a polymer handgun? I'm genuinely curious. There hasn't been any new technology invented in handguns in a long time.

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It's been the same pistol since gen 1... it'll just have a diffferent grip texture and new gen marking. And probably alternate from last gen on finger grooves/no grooves on the grip.

What else would you like in a polymer handgun? I'm genuinely curious. There hasn't been any new technology invented in handguns in a long time.

There's a number of evolutionary features Glock could incorporate:

-Removable backstraps with adjustable grip angles, allowing shooters to replace the backstrap to suit their natural point of aim (Glock grip angle, CZ grip angle, 1911 Grip angle, etc.) This is currently done by Lone Wolf on their Timberwolf frame, and then subsequently by Shadow Systems frame.

-Single action trigger. Currently the Walther PPQ, HK VP9, CZ P10, and likely a few others are using crisp, single action triggers, with the PPQ being especially good.

Those two simple moves - allowing users to change the Glock grip angle + crisp single action trigger - would create a fundamentally "new" Glock experience for "Gen 6." Arguably, its what they should have done for Gen 5.

Posted: 12/6/2019 2:44:02 AM EST

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This is my guess.

3. Single stack/ slimline 10mm

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Posted: 12/6/2019 5:27:06 AM EST

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I knew Glock mags were chunky and inefficient, but I had no idea it was that bad.

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Metal mags for all their guns officially increasing capacity of all current offerings.

That would give us what, +1 on everything?

You can fit a CZ 75 double stack mag in a G43. Glock single stack mags with 2 walls (one metal liner, one polymer exterior) are the same width as other companies' single-walled metal double stack mags.

A company is currently working on a 15-round metal factory-length mag for the G43. I've been following a thread on it for months:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Glock-43X-48-Shield-Arms-15-round-mags-flush-fit/13-187683/

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I knew Glock mags were chunky and inefficient, but I had no idea it was that bad.

The majority of GLOCK mags are very efficient. The G43X/G48 is an odd duck. It started life as the 10rd G19 AWB Compliant Mag. All they did was remove plastic from mold. GLOCK didn't go and make a new magazine. They took an existing one and used it since the intent of that line of guns is to be Fifty State Legal.

Posted: 12/6/2019 6:00:38 AM EST

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I agree with you 100%. I am a "Glock guy" and have been since 1992. I have a 48 on me right now. With that said, I do think they need to bring out something innovative, as they are indeed losing market share to their competition.

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Glock really only needs to look at what Glockopycat companies are doing to figure out what the current market wants.

Add a small beavertail and a system of grip inserts that isn't a complete afterthought. Also modify the ergos (undercut trigger guard, glove bevels on frame, etc) to better suite the way many people shoot nowadays.

Or go full ZEV and offer a chassis gun that can be scaled up or down based on personal preference.

Also change the design so that the gun can be field stripped without pulling the trigger. Yes I know this is a training issue....

Of course the kicker is to do all this and keep price more or less in line with what it is now.

Can they do it? Sure. But will they?

Glock 46 has most of the stuff above. Combine it with a Glock 47 so it'll work with 19 and 17 slides and they'd be on the right path.

Posted: 12/6/2019 6:24:31 AM EST

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Fun fact and I don't think I'm the first to leak it, it's a line of backpacks and "range bags".

I do wish they would do a Gen 6 gun, make it a 17 with extra finger grooves and no light rail. Literally the opposite of what everyone really wants (which is a gen 2 gun with a light rail). Just to troll folks.

Posted: 12/6/2019 6:37:44 AM EST

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A smart watch

Posted: 12/6/2019 6:58:18 AM EST

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I’m sure it’s been said, but I’m gonna predict a Glock USA made 5.56 mil-spec AR15. Nothing exciting, but it’s another gun they can offer to LE agencies who already issue their pistols. Will be sold to the public as well.

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Posted: 12/6/2019 7:05:38 AM EST

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Now I think even for civilians, a modular pistol like that makes little sense. Various changes to a pistol don't dramatically change its characteristics like they do for an AR15.

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The beauty of the modularity is you can do what you want with it. Change the gun as you see fit. Or simply leave it alone if that's your wish.

With that said, once the shooter has the pistol configured the way he wants it it will likely stay that way.