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Posted: 4/17/2017 4:00:09 PM EDT
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What the fuck

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:16:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Give him an NFL contract


Also that picture.  WTF.  I would not consider that "made safe" if that was brought to me.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:16:46 PM EDT
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They have it restraned so it doesn't escape and shoot someone. You know it wants to.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:18:39 PM EDT
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Not a FDO I guess. Oops 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:21:46 PM EDT
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Wow that thing is terrifying and a crime against decency.  Damn!  LOL
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:22:55 PM EDT
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They have it restraned so it doesn't escape and shoot someone. You know it wants to.
I know they hate guns but bondage porn?

Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:24:11 PM EDT
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Many of my friends are pilots. One was stopped for nail clippers. He looked at the TSA agent and said, "I fly the plane.  The whole thing is mine."  

Heaven forbid a flight officer have a gun.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:27:23 PM EDT
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Obscure pistol bondage porn?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:28:43 PM EDT
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Many of my friends are pilots. One was stopped for nail clippers. He looked at the TSA agent and said, "I fly the plane.  The whole thing is mine."  

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Seriously, the guy could crater the thing if he wanted to.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:40:39 PM EDT
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Lol.  Pilots should be allowed to carry.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:47:24 PM EDT
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I had a brief career as an A&P mech back in the late 1970's, back then many of the old time pilots carried, I have no idea if it was legal or not but no one seemed to care.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:47:26 PM EDT
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Lol.  Pilots should be allowed to carry.
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Whatever happened with that?

They never got the authorization?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:52:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:54:03 PM EDT
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Whatever happened with that?

They never got the authorization?
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Lol.  Pilots should be allowed to carry.
Whatever happened with that?

They never got the authorization?
They can. With the proper "endorsement" from the faa. My uncle carries when he pilots 777's
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:56:05 PM EDT
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Oh  Colonie, those cops must have cackled
and rubbed their hands in glee when they arrested this guy.

Course Albany PD was funelling machineguns to cops illegally for years and still won't comply with freedom of information act orders 
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Albany County Sheriffs handle the airport.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:56:50 PM EDT
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That's after they unloaded it. The guy didn't try to fly with it zipped.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:57:24 PM EDT
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The TSA needs to be fired and disbanded the only thing they do is harass Americans.

Mohamed go a head and have a nice flight.  Granny Smith were the hell you think your going with that walker we are going to have to pat your ass down!
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 4:58:16 PM EDT
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They have it restraned so it doesn't escape and shoot someone. You know it wants to.
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They have it restraned so it doesn't escape and shoot someone. You know it wants to.
This.

If that evil gun were not properly restrained, it would probably just "go off" and kill some innocent people - probably some young children.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:12:04 PM EDT
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Oh  Colonie, those cops must have cackled
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Course Albany PD was funelling machineguns to cops illegally for years and still won't comply with freedom of information act orders 
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I once worked there helping to install a large band screen for filtering water at Mohawk View WTP. Every time I went it was snowing and the numbnuts in Newark gave me a rear wheel drive car. Once I ended up in PA by driving the wrong way, lol. Before smart phones or GPS.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:17:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:19:56 PM EDT
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I've met several pilots that carry. I think they went overboard with this. The guy flies the dang plane. Sheesh.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:22:38 PM EDT
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Only if they're blessed by the FAMS. 

I don't feel bad for this guy at all. The mechanism to become a FDO has been in place for well over a decade. 

"Forgetting" that you're armed is extremely irresponsible. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:22:45 PM EDT
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Whatever happened with that?

They never got the authorization?
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The FDO program is alive and well. They have the smallest jurisdiction in the world

If you are LEO or LEA, you'll know when you run into an FDO..they LOVE to brag about it.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:34:49 PM EDT
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No secure area is really 100% secure, if you ever worked the sterile area of an airport, you would agree
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:39:35 PM EDT
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Only if they're blessed by the FAMS. 

I don't feel bad for this guy at all. The mechanism to become a FDO has been in place for well over a decade. 

"Forgetting" that you're armed is extremely irresponsible. 
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Nobody should have to be "blessed" to carry, especially not the friggin' pilot.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:41:41 PM EDT
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No secure area is really 100% secure, if you ever worked the sterile area of an airport, you would agree
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I worked for a regional airline in Seattle about 10 years ago. Brought my work clothes in a back pack everyday, never once did they search our stuff. We bypassed security and went through a door into the baggage area where it used our finger prints and a passcode.

Anyone could have smuggled anything at anytime if they wanted to. I could never understand that...
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:51:24 PM EDT
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I worked for a regional airline in Seattle about 10 years ago. Brought my work clothes in a back pack everyday, never once did they search our stuff. We bypassed security and went through a door into the baggage area where it used our finger prints and a passcode.

Anyone could have smuggled anything at anytime if they wanted to. I could never understand that...
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No secure area is really 100% secure, if you ever worked the sterile area of an airport, you would agree
I worked for a regional airline in Seattle about 10 years ago. Brought my work clothes in a back pack everyday, never once did they search our stuff. We bypassed security and went through a door into the baggage area where it used our finger prints and a passcode.

Anyone could have smuggled anything at anytime if they wanted to. I could never understand that...
If you could ship stuff thru cargo, that does not even get checked. Weird how luggage will have microscopes looking at it, but cargo is just waved thru. No matter what level threat.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 5:51:37 PM EDT
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At least he didn't use it to force a passenger off a plane.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:01:38 PM EDT
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I worked for a regional airline in Seattle about 10 years ago. Brought my work clothes in a back pack everyday, never once did they search our stuff. We bypassed security and went through a door into the baggage area where it used our finger prints and a passcode.

Anyone could have smuggled anything at anytime if they wanted to. I could never understand that...
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I just flew this past week and wondered that very thing. Interesting. Some disgruntled airline worker could really fuck some shit up.
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While I agree that it's a victimless crime, I can't help but think, "What was he thinking?"   One would think that an airline employee (especially a co-pilot) would be familiar with what the rules are for firearms on flights.
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While I agree that it's a victimless crime, I can't help but think, "What was he thinking?"   One would think that an airline employee (especially a co-pilot) would be familiar with what the rules are for firearms on flights.
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He was thinking how 4 guns could have prevented 9/11.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:18:15 PM EDT
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It's a voluntary program, but you have to go through the training. 

I also think they have to carry the gun locked up to the aircraft. 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:23:54 PM EDT
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and the flight was delayed for 4 hours going to chicago which means about 130 people missed their connections and an entire other flight was probably cancelled. Great work those TSA guys. You gotta hand it to them 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:26:29 PM EDT
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Wrong. The training comes from TSA.

FAMS needs to be introduced to the flight crew prior to the flight if flying armed.
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Only if they're blessed by the FAMS. 

I don't feel bad for this guy at all. The mechanism to become a FDO has been in place for well over a decade. 

"Forgetting" that you're armed is extremely irresponsible. 
Wrong. The training comes from TSA.

FAMS needs to be introduced to the flight crew prior to the flight if flying armed.
It's a tsa/dhs program that is taught by the fams. Literally every single classroom and hands-on instructor is a fam. Fams run it and oversee it. When you complete the training you are sworn in by a fam. If you fuck up, it'll be a fam that comes to collect your creds and equipment.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:28:18 PM EDT
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Nobody should have to be "blessed" to carry, especially not the friggin' pilot.
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I'd like to know that the pilot is able to properly handle the weapon before he is allowd to carry in the cockpit. 

Does anyone remember the FDO with the negligent discharge in the cockpit?  This was with a trained and vetted pilot...  You're telling is there shouldn't be oversight?? 
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:29:50 PM EDT
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and the flight was delayed for 4 hours going to chicago which means about 130 people missed their connections and an entire other flight was probably cancelled. Great work those TSA guys. You gotta hand it to them 
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He may not have even gone thru TSA
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:34:38 PM EDT
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Wrong. The training comes from TSA.

FAMS needs to be introduced to the flight crew prior to the flight if flying armed.
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Wrong. The training comes from TSA.

FAMS needs to be introduced to the flight crew prior to the flight if flying armed.
You're joking right??

Who do you think runs the FDO program?  The Federal Air Marshalls... an office that just so happens to be under TSA.

The Federal Air Marshal Service provides training of armed security officers required on approved flights associated with restoration of general aviation and charter flight operations at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA).
https://www.tsa.gov/for-industry/training
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:41:21 PM EDT
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The FDO program is alive and well. They have the smallest jurisdiction in the world

If you are LEO or LEA, you'll know when you run into an FDO..they LOVE to brag about it.
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Whatever happened with that?

They never got the authorization?
The FDO program is alive and well. They have the smallest jurisdiction in the world

If you are LEO or LEA, you'll know when you run into an FDO..they LOVE to brag about it.
For the life of me I've never understood why anyone would brag about being a ffdo. Personally, I've never seen a ffdo brag about it but maybe that's because I'm not the guy to brag to. However, I'd never put it past a pilot to brag about anything. FFDOs don't get paid to do it, training is only a week long, and the duties that go along with being an ffdo are incredibly simple. Conversely, being a pilot takes years of experience, pays more than any leo I've heard of, and offers privileges that far exceed anything a stupid badge can grant. How many leo jobs offer a six figure income in your second year on the job? How many leo jobs allow you to jumpseat around the world for free?

A pilot bragging about being a ffdo is as silly as a hedge fund manager bragging about knowing how to push a broom.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:49:10 PM EDT
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Now we know how co-pilots are viewed.  From the article "It's the second time in less than a month that a passenger was caught with a handgun in carry-on luggage."
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:58:45 PM EDT
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Now we know how co-pilots are viewed.  From the article "It's the second time in less than a month that a passenger was caught with a handgun in carry-on luggage."
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That's actually kind of a compliment. Sort of a step up from what the guy is used to. It's an "upgrade" from the usual term, gear bitch.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:17:50 PM EDT
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Maybe he was catching a ride home on United?
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:23:01 PM EDT
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TSA actually caught someone trying to carry a gun onto an airplane?


That IS newsworthy.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:25:08 PM EDT
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Lucky he wasn't beaten.
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He was thinking how 4 guns could have prevented 9/11.
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Or the FBI doing their job.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:29:27 PM EDT
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They have it restraned so it doesn't escape and shoot someone. You know it wants to.
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For the life of me I've never understood why anyone would brag about being a ffdo. Personally, I've never seen a ffdo brag about it but maybe that's because I'm not the guy to brag to. However, I'd never put it past a pilot to brag about anything. FFDOs don't get paid to do it, training is only a week long, and the duties that go along with being an ffdo are incredibly simple. Conversely, being a pilot takes years of experience, pays more than any leo I've heard of, and offers privileges that far exceed anything a stupid badge can grant. How many leo jobs offer a six figure income in your second year on the job? How many leo jobs allow you to jumpseat around the world for free?

A pilot bragging about being a ffdo is as silly as a hedge fund manager bragging about knowing how to push a broom.
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Say what? Sure your second year flying mainline maybe but it takes a long time to get to that point.
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For the life of me I've never understood why anyone would brag about being a ffdo. Personally, I've never seen a ffdo brag about it but maybe that's because I'm not the guy to brag to. However, I'd never put it past a pilot to brag about anything. FFDOs don't get paid to do it, training is only a week long, and the duties that go along with being an ffdo are incredibly simple. Conversely, being a pilot takes years of experience, pays more than any leo I've heard of, and offers privileges that far exceed anything a stupid badge can grant. How many leo jobs offer a six figure income in your second year on the job? How many leo jobs allow you to jumpseat around the world for free?

A pilot bragging about being a ffdo is as silly as a hedge fund manager bragging about knowing how to push a broom.
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What airline is paying 6 figures after 2 years?

The rest..I get it..but please, would love to know. I'll quit my fed gig and go back.
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It's the second time in less than a month that a passenger was caught with a handgun in carry-on luggage. On March 27, a man was arrested after he was caught with a handgun in his bag.
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I thought he was the co-pilot

FNY
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TSA actually caught someone trying to carry a gun onto an airplane?


That IS newsworthy.
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Follow their blog and instagram, they do it every day. 
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