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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:55:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't gotten a super clear answer on that. The LCP is probably gonna be a much more "utilitarian" version (think cloth seats and shit). Im told they shouldn't be competing with each other and people will want to flock to the GX if that want that style and look. I'm sure we will hear more as the year goes on. Gotcha! Always appreciate folks sharing what they know!  I'd be ok with a utilitarian version of this. I have 3 yr old twins and the perforated leather in the wife's Grand Cherokee is getting crusty.  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 8:55:57 PM EST
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Luv the boxy look! Reminds me a bit of my '74 IH Scout.
My 2015 4Runner Limited is getting a little scared! |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:05:06 PM EST
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I'd consider the off-roady version simply because they chucked the 3rd row.The glossy black stuff needs to go and I'm not a fan of the black roof, or any roof that is a different color than the vehicle. Rear blindspots looked pretty horrific. Otherwise, I'd consider one.
Probably won't be able to get one for years. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:10:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. I figured man, but not 300 and not Prado would leave one option. . .  Attached FileIt's not the hero you ever want to meet, but many believe it is  You're a good sport but we're junking up this thread |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:16:13 PM EST
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Did they release any pricing?
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:18:39 PM EST
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Fuck hybrids.
Fuck turbos. Fuck the EPA. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:20:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they release any pricing? More - none yet but that's solid, tho not clear how much
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:24:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck hybrids. Fuck turbos. Fuck the EPA. Woah, hey there. No need to go THAT far. Id say fuck the V6 they are bolted to. If Lexus really wanted to be baller, bring back the 4.0L V8 displacement and add 2 small turbos. Win. Turbos though, turbos are real nice for mo powa baby. It might take forever, but there will be a turbo on my Big Block Chevy 427 in my trash panda 73 Nova. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:25:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I figured man, but not 300 and not Prado would leave one option. . . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0261_jpeg-2844647.JPG It's not the hero you ever want to meet, but many believe it is You're a good sport but we're junking up this thread Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. I figured man, but not 300 and not Prado would leave one option. . . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0261_jpeg-2844647.JPG It's not the hero you ever want to meet, but many believe it is You're a good sport but we're junking up this thread And this one seems a bit more fun than the ones on MUD.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:30:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full shot on the website. Not bad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90249/IMG_7600_jpeg-2844501.JPG Y’know what, I really don’t hate it. I was fully prepared to but I could actually picture one in my parking spot. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:33:37 PM EST
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I like it so called my local dealer and put my name on whatever list they have going. It will be a nice companion for my built ‘18 200-series that has a whopping 32k miles.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:36:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full shot on the website. Not bad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90249/IMG_7600_jpeg-2844501.JPG I'll be honest, I don't hate it, which is rare for me to say of a Lexus. Of course, even if I could afford it, I wouldn't be able to convince myself to fork over the money required for one, I'm sure. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:40:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love a good ARF Cruiserhead thread. And this one seems a bit more fun than the ones on MUD. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So a new Toyota LC that's not a Prado - the plot thickens Maybe we have some wires crossed. I will continue to say the LC 300 will not be back in the states anytime soon. I would love to be wrong but I don't think I will be. We will however get the LC Prado in the states. I figured man, but not 300 and not Prado would leave one option. . . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0261_jpeg-2844647.JPG It's not the hero you ever want to meet, but many believe it is You're a good sport but we're junking up this thread And this one seems a bit more fun than the ones on MUD. I barely like them  Attached FileJust here for the lulz
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:42:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:45:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That’s pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. Doubt. The people lining up to buy them want the v8 for a particular reason. It's not like they NEED to be the market for a new one in a few years unless they drive 100k miles a year. I don't dislike the numbers but do prefer a v8 to smaller turbo engines, even if it makes a little less power. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 9:53:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I barely like them https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/531__2__JPG-2844700.JPG Just here for the lulz Mine's a white GX470! |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:02:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet ride! Mine's a white GX470! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I barely like them https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/531__2__JPG-2844700.JPG Just here for the lulz Mine's a white GX470! Oh fuck man that aint mine, just take special effort to find my people.  Attached FileNo cage, that Dakar I was moto piloten. Czechs are always trouble |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:04:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet ride! Mine's a white GX470! I have a blizzard pearl 470. Everything minus the paint in my rig is mint. The roof and drivers side are peeling in sheets. I had the hood and passenger side repainted when I bought it. Not falling for that again. I think I’m gonna tear it apart and Raptor line it white. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:16:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my take, Highlander > Grand Highlander : 4Runner > Prado (250) Many have questioned the viability given "minimal" differences This gets Toyota a 7 seater to replace the 8 LC 200, continue the LC nameplate at a more acceptable cost. If I was a product planner, I could see this, but you'll need to be mindful with the naming/marketing. Maybe you get something like this. All body on chassis GA-F, with similar (identical wheelbase) dimensions. The US market dev is no issue with GX me maybe this possibility baked in at design. GX - Premium, V35A, 7 Seater Prado (250) - Mid, T24A Hybrid Max, 7 Seater 4Runner - Value, T24A, 5 Seater Problem's going to be if it's merely an engine differentiating, H > GH has small but significant size increase, along with the premium engine (Hybrid Max). You also have the GX so a Prado get sandwiched - which limits feature options and differentiation Long as you're cool with a T25A i-Force Max, you may get a shot. Automotive News again yesterday fueled the speculation "Toyota Land Cruiser SUV could return to U.S. as revamped Prado". Lot of conditionals in the article tho. Normally the trademarking is the indication (and GX550 was registered in early '21)Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it looks great and the specs are badass! I wonder if the new LC is going to be the Yota version of this. Highlander > Grand Highlander : 4Runner > Prado (250) Many have questioned the viability given "minimal" differences This gets Toyota a 7 seater to replace the 8 LC 200, continue the LC nameplate at a more acceptable cost. If I was a product planner, I could see this, but you'll need to be mindful with the naming/marketing. Maybe you get something like this. All body on chassis GA-F, with similar (identical wheelbase) dimensions. The US market dev is no issue with GX me maybe this possibility baked in at design. GX - Premium, V35A, 7 Seater Prado (250) - Mid, T24A Hybrid Max, 7 Seater 4Runner - Value, T24A, 5 Seater Problem's going to be if it's merely an engine differentiating, H > GH has small but significant size increase, along with the premium engine (Hybrid Max). You also have the GX so a Prado get sandwiched - which limits feature options and differentiation Long as you're cool with a T25A i-Force Max, you may get a shot. Automotive News again yesterday fueled the speculation "Toyota Land Cruiser SUV could return to U.S. as revamped Prado". Lot of conditionals in the article tho. Normally the trademarking is the indication (and GX550 was registered in early '21)Yep. That product differentiation seems iffy. In a post-FJ world, Toyota has brought the US the 4Runner, the GX, the LC, and the LX. That's four total BOF SUVs with mixed success. The LC and LX didn't sell enough for both to continue existing, so we get the GX only. Now we're going to get the 4Runner, Prado, and GX all in the same little slice of the market? I don't think that makes sense unless they do something to widen the gap between the 4Runner and the Prado while keeping the Prado far enough from the GX. Does the 4Runner get smaller? Does the Prado get bigger to make the 3 row config actually work? Does either the 4Runner or Prado get positioned as more of an off-road marketed vehicle? |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:24:40 PM EST
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Looks good. It looks more aggressive than the current generation. The off-road model is sweet. Would buy!
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:38:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. That product differentiation seems iffy. In a post-FJ world, Toyota has brought the US the 4Runner, the GX, the LC, and the LX. That's four total BOF SUVs with mixed success. The LC and LX didn't sell enough for both to continue existing, so we get the GX only. Now we're going to get the 4Runner, Prado, and GX all in the same little slice of the market? I don't think that makes sense unless they do something to widen the gap between the 4Runner and the Prado while keeping the Prado far enough from the GX. Does the 4Runner get smaller? Does the Prado get bigger to make the 3 row config actually work? Does either the 4Runner or Prado get positioned as more of an off-road marketed vehicle? It seems inevitable that the LC is coming back in some form with all the rumors being released by so many major outlets. I don’t see where it fits in. The GX just got released and the Sequoia and LX were just completely overhauled within the last few years. With the 4Runner design being nearly 15 years old that makes you wonder if they’re gonna replace it with a LC. But that doesn’t make sense either because they sell like crack. Then again, if they drop the 4Runner and introduce the LC as a strictly off-road utility vehicle with a price point close to the 4Runner it would sell even better than the 4R. 4Runner ~ R.I.P. Economy lineup: Corolla Cross ~ abomination RAV4 ~ compact NX/RX/etc ~ luxury compact Highlander ~ budget suv TX ~ luxury suv Enthusiast/Premium lineup: LC250 ~ off-road GX ~ luxury/off-road Sequoia ~ 8 seater family vehicle LX ~ flagship |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:40:40 PM EST
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I wish they'd sell various trim levels of the LC. A $100k SUV without the status of a Mercedes or BMW is a tough sell. Sell a lower trim level for $20k less, and I'd be on board with that.
I haven't kept up on Ineos Grenadier pricing lately, but hoping that's <$70k and might pull the trigger on that if it's getting good reviews. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:47:35 PM EST
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Posted: 6/8/2023 10:55:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems inevitable that the LC is coming back in some form with all the rumors being released by so many major outlets. I don’t see where it fits in. The GX just got released and the Sequoia and LX were just completely overhauled within the last few years. With the 4Runner design being nearly 15 years old that makes you wonder if they’re gonna replace it with a LC. But that doesn’t make sense either because they sell like crack. Then again, if they drop the 4Runner and introduce the LC as a strictly off-road utility vehicle with a price point close to the 4Runner it would sell even better than the 4R. 4Runner ~ R.I.P. Economy lineup: Corolla Cross ~ abomination RAV4 ~ compact NX/RX/etc ~ luxury compact Highlander ~ budget suv TX ~ luxury suv Enthusiast/Premium lineup: LC250 ~ off-road GX ~ luxury/off-road Sequoia ~ 8 seater family vehicle LX ~ flagship Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep. That product differentiation seems iffy. In a post-FJ world, Toyota has brought the US the 4Runner, the GX, the LC, and the LX. That's four total BOF SUVs with mixed success. The LC and LX didn't sell enough for both to continue existing, so we get the GX only. Now we're going to get the 4Runner, Prado, and GX all in the same little slice of the market? I don't think that makes sense unless they do something to widen the gap between the 4Runner and the Prado while keeping the Prado far enough from the GX. Does the 4Runner get smaller? Does the Prado get bigger to make the 3 row config actually work? Does either the 4Runner or Prado get positioned as more of an off-road marketed vehicle? It seems inevitable that the LC is coming back in some form with all the rumors being released by so many major outlets. I don’t see where it fits in. The GX just got released and the Sequoia and LX were just completely overhauled within the last few years. With the 4Runner design being nearly 15 years old that makes you wonder if they’re gonna replace it with a LC. But that doesn’t make sense either because they sell like crack. Then again, if they drop the 4Runner and introduce the LC as a strictly off-road utility vehicle with a price point close to the 4Runner it would sell even better than the 4R. 4Runner ~ R.I.P. Economy lineup: Corolla Cross ~ abomination RAV4 ~ compact NX/RX/etc ~ luxury compact Highlander ~ budget suv TX ~ luxury suv Enthusiast/Premium lineup: LC250 ~ off-road GX ~ luxury/off-road Sequoia ~ 8 seater family vehicle LX ~ flagship I completely forgot the Sequoia.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:05:01 PM EST
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:08:05 PM EST
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:10:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I'm not mistaken the GX has a few more inches of headroom than the 4runner has I don’t know what the specs are but the GX has excellent packaging. We were comparing a 2021 4Runner and 2007 GX side by side and the 470 felt worlds bigger. |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:10:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I completely forgot the Sequoia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. That product differentiation seems iffy. In a post-FJ world, Toyota has brought the US the 4Runner, the GX, the LC, and the LX. That's four total BOF SUVs with mixed success. The LC and LX didn't sell enough for both to continue existing, so we get the GX only. Now we're going to get the 4Runner, Prado, and GX all in the same little slice of the market? I don't think that makes sense unless they do something to widen the gap between the 4Runner and the Prado while keeping the Prado far enough from the GX. Does the 4Runner get smaller? Does the Prado get bigger to make the 3 row config actually work? Does either the 4Runner or Prado get positioned as more of an off-road marketed vehicle? It seems inevitable that the LC is coming back in some form with all the rumors being released by so many major outlets. I don't see where it fits in. The GX just got released and the Sequoia and LX were just completely overhauled within the last few years. With the 4Runner design being nearly 15 years old that makes you wonder if they're gonna replace it with a LC. But that doesn't make sense either because they sell like crack. Then again, if they drop the 4Runner and introduce the LC as a strictly off-road utility vehicle with a price point close to the 4Runner it would sell even better than the 4R. 4Runner ~ R.I.P. Economy lineup: Corolla Cross ~ abomination RAV4 ~ compact NX/RX/etc ~ luxury compact Highlander ~ budget suv TX ~ luxury suv Enthusiast/Premium lineup: LC250 ~ off-road GX ~ luxury/off-road Sequoia ~ 8 seater family vehicle LX ~ flagship I completely forgot the Sequoia. Everyone does  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:17:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yep. That product differentiation seems iffy. In a post-FJ world, Toyota has brought the US the 4Runner, the GX, the LC, and the LX. That's four total BOF SUVs with mixed success. The LC and LX didn't sell enough for both to continue existing, so we get the GX only. Now we're going to get the 4Runner, Prado, and GX all in the same little slice of the market? I don't think that makes sense unless they do something to widen the gap between the 4Runner and the Prado while keeping the Prado far enough from the GX. Does the 4Runner get smaller? Does the Prado get bigger to make the 3 row config actually work? Does either the 4Runner or Prado get positioned as more of an off-road marketed vehicle? It seems inevitable that the LC is coming back in some form with all the rumors being released by so many major outlets. I don't see where it fits in. The GX just got released and the Sequoia and LX were just completely overhauled within the last few years. With the 4Runner design being nearly 15 years old that makes you wonder if they're gonna replace it with a LC. But that doesn't make sense either because they sell like crack. Then again, if they drop the 4Runner and introduce the LC as a strictly off-road utility vehicle with a price point close to the 4Runner it would sell even better than the 4R. 4Runner ~ R.I.P. Economy lineup: Corolla Cross ~ abomination RAV4 ~ compact NX/RX/etc ~ luxury compact Highlander ~ budget suv TX ~ luxury suv Enthusiast/Premium lineup: LC250 ~ off-road GX ~ luxury/off-road Sequoia ~ 8 seater family vehicle LX ~ flagship I completely forgot the Sequoia. Everyone does https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0310_jpeg-2844780.JPG  |
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:29:10 PM EST
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:51:21 PM EST
[#31]
I love the boxy looks. The wife wants to get rid of her Sienna but I don't know if she's going to want to wait.
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Posted: 6/8/2023 11:56:54 PM EST
[#32]
I hope these drive down the prices on the 460s. They have been kept insanely artificially high. You can get a 470 for under 10k all day long but the 460s aren't even approaching the same.
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Posted: 6/9/2023 12:15:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope these drive down the prices on the 460s. They have been kept insanely artificially high. You can get a 470 for under 10k all day long but the 460s aren't even approaching the same. GX470 is a better vehicle, too. They’re just old. I have an ‘06 470 and recently rode in a ‘19 460. The build quality is not as good. The interior felt cheaper, especially the seats, and the road noise was way worse. And despite having a timing belt I’d argue the 4.7 is a better engine. The problem with the 470 is they’re so old and cheap now that young and/or retarded guys can afford them now. They’re all getting bought and hacked up. The GXOR Facebook group is literally eye bleach. It is littered with retards buying 470s and installing the cheapest amazon lift, stuffing 35s on it, sawzalling and hacking up the front & rear bumpers, removing the front and rear sway bars, clamping on an auto zone muffler, k&n cold air intake, boring holes in the fender and slapping on a eBay snorkel, ripping off the side steps, ripping apart the interior to wrap the wood grain pieces with cheap vinyl that matches matches nothing in the interior, removing the nav head unit and installing a cheap Chinese made Tesla style stereo, throwing away the 2nd/3rd row seats and making “custom” plywood sleeping platforms, and tearing apart the headlights to spray paint the lens black and install cheap Amazon fake HID bulbs, and tacking a Amazon light bar on the roof for good measure. Then they post pictures of their “build” and have a “damn bro sweet rig” circle jerk. And those same rigs will get listed for sale with 250k miles and all the aforementioned “mods” with asking prices of $20-30k. Hell, last week some retard posted about how he found rear airbags on Amazon that were stronger than stock and let him pull his RV from CA to CO without sagging. And that it handled great and he didn’t even have to reinstall the sway bars. Jackass towed a 8k lb 25 ft RV with a fucking 470. The mechanical questions that get posted will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. I had to leave the group. It made me wanna sell my GX. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 12:26:29 AM EST
[#34]
Kinda reminds me of the old land cruisers but also the Land Rover defender
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Posted: 6/9/2023 12:40:15 AM EST
[#35]
Hopefully you can fit one of those 33s underneath...
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Posted: 6/9/2023 3:54:26 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That’s pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. I paid MSRP for my 2022 and have basically no interest in this generation after seeing it. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 4:40:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryAnd they made it private. 
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Posted: 6/9/2023 6:16:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they made it private. Quote HistoryQuoted: And they made it private. Pulled yesterday @ 6:30 pm. It's the same here, https://youtu.be/HLNEyQDatTI what was on the Lexus site at 8pm to coincide with the unveiling. Somehow made it to the wild prior, and prolly somebody's ass. Mfg ain't happy when embargo is snubbed. There will be more out soon, I'm sure most of the press pics have been posted on various sites so I won't crap up the thread with more, most of the good stuff is above. More from press events will be trickling out as well, but unveilings anymore are amateur hour Looks like I missed this last night tho, last one  Attached FileSorry @Mblades and @GenYRevolverGuy - prolly some others. I woulda preferred 60/40 as the J70s, but even before I knew, I knew that wasn't happening. Not great, not horrible, The best part of this is there's a bit more than lip service to the off tar use - even if for the vast majority, it's going to Starbuck's. Lol marketing acknowledged this in the release vid itself - what a cool carnet or passport or whatever the fuck that book was supposed to be. Those people have never dug out a high center and weren't even greenlaning in Aldworth. Least it'll look cred, and no different than most of the Grenadiers. It did change the equation there - Toyota indicated it was going after the Defender, and it doesn't have quite the chops (on paper) that Ineos spec'd, but even I was surprised when I saw the specs on the Overtrail/+ (man they need better focus groups). Not what hardcore would want, but your target demo is clear from the promotionals, and this is the Lexus iteration. Forthcoming will be differentiated. Toyota's always done well with this segment, worldwide - not everyone who thinks they need a J70, will tolerate one. Overtrail+ Rundown Another Raiti Early Peek |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 6:33:30 AM EST
[#39]
@Volund
Sorry man wasn't trying to come off coy or snarky, but information has its own time. And liquor. Even before debut information was out it was pretty clear Tahara would remain the prod base. Tool up and scheduling gave some indications, but not official and shit changes. Still no pricing I've seen. Get the feel some aspects of this become upmarket LC/LCP/Prados in some markets (as VXL), so makes sense - Tahara.  Attached FileWonder what happens to this guy? |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 6:44:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I paid MSRP for my 2022 and have basically no interest in this generation after seeing it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 3.4 twin turbo 349 hp 479 tq 8k lb towing That's pretty impressive. Guys that paid hyper inflated prices to snag the dying v8 might regret that decision in a few years. I paid MSRP for my 2022 and have basically no interest in this generation after seeing it. Curious - can you give me a run down on why. Interested. I feel ya, sometimes a Triple Locked 80 or a 105 lures me. Or any 70. Then I get seduced by comfort. I like some stuff I've seen here, but need some seat and trail time to make decisions. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:00:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Firestarter123 Curious - can you give me a run down on why. Interested. I feel ya, sometimes a Triple Locked 80 or a 105 lures me. Or any 70. Then I get seduced by comfort. I like some stuff I've seen here, but need some seat and trail time to make decisions. I would love a 70 series (Troopy version) for myself as a utility vehicle but we daily the LC200 mostly because of the bad roads here. Wifey deals with chronic back pain and the 200 does the best at smoothing everything out. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:11:10 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GX470 is a better vehicle, too. They're just old. I have an '06 470 and recently rode in a '19 460. The build quality is not as good. The interior felt cheaper, especially the seats, and the road noise was way worse. And despite having a timing belt I'd argue the 4.7 is a better engine. The problem with the 470 is they're so old and cheap now that young and/or retarded guys can afford them now. They're all getting bought and hacked up. The GXOR Facebook group is literally eye bleach. It is littered with retards buying 470s and installing the cheapest amazon lift, stuffing 35s on it, sawzalling and hacking up the front & rear bumpers, removing the front and rear sway bars, clamping on an auto zone muffler, k&n cold air intake, boring holes in the fender and slapping on a eBay snorkel, ripping off the side steps, ripping apart the interior to wrap the wood grain pieces with cheap vinyl that matches matches nothing in the interior, removing the nav head unit and installing a cheap Chinese made Tesla style stereo, throwing away the 2nd/3rd row seats and making "custom" plywood sleeping platforms, and tearing apart the headlights to spray paint the lens black and install cheap Amazon fake HID bulbs, and tacking a Amazon light bar on the roof for good measure. Then they post pictures of their "build" and have a "damn bro sweet rig" circle jerk. And those same rigs will get listed for sale with 250k miles and all the aforementioned "mods" with asking prices of $20-30k. Hell, last week some retard posted about how he found rear airbags on Amazon that were stronger than stock and let him pull his RV from CA to CO without sagging. And that it handled great and he didn't even have to reinstall the sway bars. Jackass towed a 8k lb 25 ft RV with a fucking 470. The mechanical questions that get posted will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. I had to leave the group. It made me wanna sell my GX. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hope these drive down the prices on the 460s. They have been kept insanely artificially high. You can get a 470 for under 10k all day long but the 460s aren't even approaching the same. GX470 is a better vehicle, too. They're just old. I have an '06 470 and recently rode in a '19 460. The build quality is not as good. The interior felt cheaper, especially the seats, and the road noise was way worse. And despite having a timing belt I'd argue the 4.7 is a better engine. The problem with the 470 is they're so old and cheap now that young and/or retarded guys can afford them now. They're all getting bought and hacked up. The GXOR Facebook group is literally eye bleach. It is littered with retards buying 470s and installing the cheapest amazon lift, stuffing 35s on it, sawzalling and hacking up the front & rear bumpers, removing the front and rear sway bars, clamping on an auto zone muffler, k&n cold air intake, boring holes in the fender and slapping on a eBay snorkel, ripping off the side steps, ripping apart the interior to wrap the wood grain pieces with cheap vinyl that matches matches nothing in the interior, removing the nav head unit and installing a cheap Chinese made Tesla style stereo, throwing away the 2nd/3rd row seats and making "custom" plywood sleeping platforms, and tearing apart the headlights to spray paint the lens black and install cheap Amazon fake HID bulbs, and tacking a Amazon light bar on the roof for good measure. Then they post pictures of their "build" and have a "damn bro sweet rig" circle jerk. And those same rigs will get listed for sale with 250k miles and all the aforementioned "mods" with asking prices of $20-30k. Hell, last week some retard posted about how he found rear airbags on Amazon that were stronger than stock and let him pull his RV from CA to CO without sagging. And that it handled great and he didn't even have to reinstall the sway bars. Jackass towed a 8k lb 25 ft RV with a fucking 470. The mechanical questions that get posted will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. I had to leave the group. It made me wanna sell my GX. lol You should sell your GX for sure. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:40:03 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GX470 is a better vehicle, too. They're just old. I have an '06 470 and recently rode in a '19 460. The build quality is not as good. The interior felt cheaper, especially the seats, and the road noise was way worse. And despite having a timing belt I'd argue the 4.7 is a better engine. The problem with the 470 is they're so old and cheap now that young and/or retarded guys can afford them now. They're all getting bought and hacked up. The GXOR Facebook group is literally eye bleach. It is littered with retards buying 470s and installing the cheapest amazon lift, stuffing 35s on it, sawzalling and hacking up the front & rear bumpers, removing the front and rear sway bars, clamping on an auto zone muffler, k&n cold air intake, boring holes in the fender and slapping on a eBay snorkel, ripping off the side steps, ripping apart the interior to wrap the wood grain pieces with cheap vinyl that matches matches nothing in the interior, removing the nav head unit and installing a cheap Chinese made Tesla style stereo, throwing away the 2nd/3rd row seats and making "custom" plywood sleeping platforms, and tearing apart the headlights to spray paint the lens black and install cheap Amazon fake HID bulbs, and tacking a Amazon light bar on the roof for good measure. Then they post pictures of their "build" and have a "damn bro sweet rig" circle jerk. And those same rigs will get listed for sale with 250k miles and all the aforementioned "mods" with asking prices of $20-30k. Hell, last week some retard posted about how he found rear airbags on Amazon that were stronger than stock and let him pull his RV from CA to CO without sagging. And that it handled great and he didn't even have to reinstall the sway bars. Jackass towed a 8k lb 25 ft RV with a fucking 470. The mechanical questions that get posted will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. I had to leave the group. It made me wanna sell my GX. Quote HistoryQuoted: GX470 is a better vehicle, too. They're just old. I have an '06 470 and recently rode in a '19 460. The build quality is not as good. The interior felt cheaper, especially the seats, and the road noise was way worse. And despite having a timing belt I'd argue the 4.7 is a better engine. The problem with the 470 is they're so old and cheap now that young and/or retarded guys can afford them now. They're all getting bought and hacked up. The GXOR Facebook group is literally eye bleach. It is littered with retards buying 470s and installing the cheapest amazon lift, stuffing 35s on it, sawzalling and hacking up the front & rear bumpers, removing the front and rear sway bars, clamping on an auto zone muffler, k&n cold air intake, boring holes in the fender and slapping on a eBay snorkel, ripping off the side steps, ripping apart the interior to wrap the wood grain pieces with cheap vinyl that matches matches nothing in the interior, removing the nav head unit and installing a cheap Chinese made Tesla style stereo, throwing away the 2nd/3rd row seats and making "custom" plywood sleeping platforms, and tearing apart the headlights to spray paint the lens black and install cheap Amazon fake HID bulbs, and tacking a Amazon light bar on the roof for good measure. Then they post pictures of their "build" and have a "damn bro sweet rig" circle jerk. And those same rigs will get listed for sale with 250k miles and all the aforementioned "mods" with asking prices of $20-30k. Hell, last week some retard posted about how he found rear airbags on Amazon that were stronger than stock and let him pull his RV from CA to CO without sagging. And that it handled great and he didn't even have to reinstall the sway bars. Jackass towed a 8k lb 25 ft RV with a fucking 470. The mechanical questions that get posted will make you wanna gouge your eyes out. I had to leave the group. It made me wanna sell my GX. Quoted: Hopefully you can fit one of those 33s underneath... I'm trying to find things I don't like. All I've come up with is they made it bigger. A little wider, longer... maybe not a practical difference but I like the small size on trails. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:46:02 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t gotten a super clear answer on that. The LCP is probably gonna be a much more “utilitarian” version (think cloth seats and shit). Im told they shouldn’t be competing with each other and people will want to flock to the GX if that want that style and look. I’m sure we will hear more as the year goes on. Dear Lord I hope so. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:48:08 AM EST
[#45]
Can anyone seen if the gauge cluster is a screen??
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:53:02 AM EST
[#46]
This thing looks like dog poo.
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:53:13 AM EST
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:56:58 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone seen if the gauge cluster is a screen?? According to one of the videos I watched last night it is. |
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Posted: 6/9/2023 8:05:50 AM EST
[#49]
Did I miss it somewhere.... will it still have airbag suspension or AHC like the LX570/LX600?
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Posted: 6/9/2023 8:16:57 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did I miss it somewhere.... will it still have airbag suspension or AHC like the LX570/LX600? Here's a link to some pics of the f/r suspension setups on the new GX and LX. https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/2024-gx-wait-list.1312078/page-15#post-15003205 ETA - AHC isn't too big of a turn off for me. The LX570 guys on MUD have figured out how to do long travel setups with Tundra swaps and AHC sensor lifts. Even if you didn't want to go that far, a decent sensor lift and rear suspension brackets/mount points can be done for under a grand, and get you full fat 35's with some heat gun treatment to the wheel well liners. The flexibility of the system is pretty impressive. |
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