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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:03:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you actually compare some basic measures between the two, it's pretty apparent why anyone would be concerned with Nissan, esp held up against Kia. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0951_jpeg-3051799.JPG Kia has 3x the earning, with a tenth the debt, on $10B less in revenue. Kia's in the top 5 in operating revenue of the big players, couple ahead of Toyota, below Ferrari, BMW, Tesla and Mercedes. Pretty decent company. Not perfect, and def some serious issues, but these are the kind of shortcomings ascendant companies, ran smartly, can survive. These kind of missteps might kill a mfg, contracting and burdened by debt. We'll see where they end up I a few years, but given Kia's technological advantages and the marketed where they can leverage them, I wouldn't bet against the Koreans Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bold prediction from a guy that works for a company that has motors blow up daily and the worlds easiest stolen cars leading to rising insurance rates for those of us that aren't even affected by the theft issue and in some places can't even get insured on those models now. If you actually compare some basic measures between the two, it's pretty apparent why anyone would be concerned with Nissan, esp held up against Kia. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0951_jpeg-3051799.JPG Kia has 3x the earning, with a tenth the debt, on $10B less in revenue. Kia's in the top 5 in operating revenue of the big players, couple ahead of Toyota, below Ferrari, BMW, Tesla and Mercedes. Pretty decent company. Not perfect, and def some serious issues, but these are the kind of shortcomings ascendant companies, ran smartly, can survive. These kind of missteps might kill a mfg, contracting and burdened by debt. We'll see where they end up I a few years, but given Kia's technological advantages and the marketed where they can leverage them, I wouldn't bet against the Koreans Which site/app is this, Alac? |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:08:32 PM EDT
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Infiniti is killing it around here. Every soccer mom wants their QX60 or 80…and they aren’t cheap.
My wife got the 60 this year and loves it. Coming from a Lexus, the Infiniti is much more ergonomic and comfortable to drive. Tech is decent, and the interior is much nicer. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:12:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have absolutely no idea what they are doing with the Z. It's a good car. It's priced reasonably well for where it sits performance-wise. It looks good. Yes, it reuses a lot from the 370Z, but that's okay, and expected given Nissan's budget constraints for a low-volume sports car. They just completely bungled the launch and aren't attempting to produce them in any quantity. I still have yet to see one, and I go to local Cars & Coffee events pretty often. It's like they don't actually want to sell the car. I saw one in Hilton Head. It was hoooot |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:56:27 PM EDT
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Pre 2020 Frontiers with 4.0 are damn near bulletproof. Yes, they have cheap plastic interiors, harsher ride, noisier interior. When I kill my 2015 I will be looking for a low mile 2018-2019 to replace it
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Posted: 12/7/2023 12:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Y’all have never studied the I-24 Nissan Altima variant. - survives multiple impacts and is road worthy - missing a minimum of 2 hub caps - possibly on a spare - expired or non existent tag - travels at high rate of speed - tier 1 suspension for Slalom maneuvers in traffic - advanced cloaking system that hides them from LEO They will last forever. Only known competition is the I-24 Dodge Charger. Rez rocket altimas are the most impressive altimas. wrecked on every corner. blacked out tail lights, burned out left headlight. Goes 64mph on the interstate, sun, snow rain or ice. has never met a speed bump, bald tires, dream catcher AND safety pin headdress from the rear view mirror.. "powered by frybread" sticker on trunk or rear bumper, which is always primer. never sure if the crooked license plate is for style, due to collision, or just plane ol falling off. they're slowly replacing the pontiac grand am as the official pace car of the I25 north and south bound 500. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:06:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw one in Hilton Head. It was hoooot I'd really like to see one out and about. It was one of the cars I looked at when deciding on the replacement for my old FR-S. In the end I decided not to wait for it and went another route. I'm happy with where I ended up, but I'd still like to see the Z be a success for Nissan. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:10:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:12:23 PM EDT
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The 89-94 Maxima was a good looking car and could be had with a 5 spd. manual.
That car was also preferred by criminals at one point according to a criminal defense attorney friend of mine. Something about a hiding spot in the engine compartment for guns, etc. Of course not much of a secret and why these types needed a lawyer. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryEuropean drivers make all American drivers look like perfect drivers. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My standpoint on I-24 stands. Maybe that's because Nissan's plant is on 24. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/altima-3052153.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/altima2-3052154.jpg LOL, of course TN tags On a related experience, I had to rent a car for a business trip. They gave me a nissan sentra. I have NO idea why anyone would willingly pay for one of those cars. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:18:33 PM EDT
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I love my 06 Frontier, and the new generation is really cool.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:20:05 PM EDT
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Amusing to find out the Altima reputation is a thing as it is so accurate.
That spot was once held by the Mitsubishi (Diamante?) I think or maybe some other sedan; all long gone to the crusher. I gave up motorcycles thanks to deep tinted cars like the Altima; making eye contact is important on a motorcycle if you want to stay alive. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:20:23 PM EDT
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With as popular as 4runners, Jeeps, and Broncos are, you'd think that bringing back the Xterra would be a no-brainer.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:22:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like my '91. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/128054/IMG_20220503_163531_jpg-3052238.JPG Nice car. I should have bought one new. Last of the square styling. Great build quality. They have disappeared from the roads. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which site/app is this, Alac? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Bold prediction from a guy that works for a company that has motors blow up daily and the worlds easiest stolen cars leading to rising insurance rates for those of us that aren't even affected by the theft issue and in some places can't even get insured on those models now. If you actually compare some basic measures between the two, it's pretty apparent why anyone would be concerned with Nissan, esp held up against Kia. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0951_jpeg-3051799.JPG Kia has 3x the earning, with a tenth the debt, on $10B less in revenue. Kia's in the top 5 in operating revenue of the big players, couple ahead of Toyota, below Ferrari, BMW, Tesla and Mercedes. Pretty decent company. Not perfect, and def some serious issues, but these are the kind of shortcomings ascendant companies, ran smartly, can survive. These kind of missteps might kill a mfg, contracting and burdened by debt. We'll see where they end up I a few years, but given Kia's technological advantages and the marketed where they can leverage them, I wouldn't bet against the Koreans Which site/app is this, Alac? Wanted to say https://seekingalpha.com/ - but that's not it. Have a number bookmarked when I get back I'll check and let you know |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:26:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Renault…. That’s when it started going downhill
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:26:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have absolutely no idea what they are doing with the Z. It's a good car. It's priced reasonably well for where it sits performance-wise. It looks good. Yes, it reuses a lot from the 370Z, but that's okay, and expected given Nissan's budget constraints for a low-volume sports car. They just completely bungled the launch and aren't attempting to produce them in any quantity. I still have yet to see one, and I go to local Cars & Coffee events pretty often. It's like they don't actually want to sell the car. I saw two in person for the first time yesterday at a Nissan dealership. To me, they’re like the new Toyota Supra in that they look way better in person than they do in photographs. I currently drive a 2020 370Z which I’ve thoroughly enjoyed up to this point. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:29:42 PM EDT
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This is now a Nissan picture thread
   
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 89-94 Maxima was a good looking car and could be had with a 5 spd. manual. That car was also preferred by criminals at one point according to a criminal defense attorney friend of mine. Something about a hiding spot in the engine compartment for guns, etc. Of course not much of a secret and why these types needed a lawyer. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:33:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Their first mistake was changing their name from Datsun to Nissan. Their name was always Nissan. It’s hard to believe that you’ve done an in-depth analysis of how they harmed their business, without knowing that. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 1:56:49 PM EDT
[#21]
I'll buy a new Frontier if my 06 ever finally dies.
It's pretty easy to wrench on. I do wish they had better paint. AZ eats car paint. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:43:40 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just checking.... Does Kia have a truck I can throw a couple of dead deer in the back? 10 dead geese in? Leaking garbage bag going to the dump? Christmas tree without tying it to the top? shall I keep going? I admit I have been a Frontier owner since 2009, are they the best truck out there? probably not, but they work for what I need a truck for (along with pulling boats up to 3500#) When I am done with my current frontier I will be buying another. Have also owned Toyota, Ford and Dodge trucks I had a 2019 Desert Runner Frontier. Pulled a 6000 lb travel trailer all over Colorado with it. It did just fine. The Frontier is still one of Nissan's best kept secrets. The ride with the factory Bilsteins was excellent too. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:46:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw two in person for the first time yesterday at a Nissan dealership. To me, they're like the new Toyota Supra in that they look way better in person than they do in photographs. I currently drive a 2020 370Z which I've thoroughly enjoyed up to this point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have absolutely no idea what they are doing with the Z. It's a good car. It's priced reasonably well for where it sits performance-wise. It looks good. Yes, it reuses a lot from the 370Z, but that's okay, and expected given Nissan's budget constraints for a low-volume sports car. They just completely bungled the launch and aren't attempting to produce them in any quantity. I still have yet to see one, and I go to local Cars & Coffee events pretty often. It's like they don't actually want to sell the car. I saw two in person for the first time yesterday at a Nissan dealership. To me, they're like the new Toyota Supra in that they look way better in person than they do in photographs. I currently drive a 2020 370Z which I've thoroughly enjoyed up to this point. Its a decent cheapish sports car in its own right, but it pales compared to other choices. For what most peeps want, theres more than enough fun for a Sunday drive or occasional track day. But the compromises are noticeable. The extra ponies are welcome, but arent quite harnessed. Good not great car. It was apparent at the debut, this wasn't the car many hoped for, including the Nissan team. But Tamura and his peeps did a very good job with what they had. Nobody gets a blank check for these things (some Euros get closer), as Tada will attest. But this isn't exclusive to Nissan, its just greatly magnified by their financial situation. Prolly sell 1500 this year. About the volume of GT-Rs decade ago or Z4 this year. Supra will sell less 5k tho. Miatas go 8k ish. GR 86 @ 12k. So noone of these are real volume. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 2:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ever thought that maybe, just maybe, sales are regional? I see new Armadas and QX80s everywhere now. Word must have gotten out that they're still made in Japan. Just imagine if they had been importing the past few generations of Patrols, Had kept the Pathfinder a true 4Runner competitor, And continued the X-Terra. Let alone if they had gone removable roof panel/doors and barn door rear mounted spare on an X-terra update. And kept the Maxima and in the know Japanese performance sedan that could kill Civics and Camrys in performance and price. Instead, they blew off that market. Let the Maxima become ghetto lux, and chased a shit demographic as far as sales and reputation go. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:11:31 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Titan is the ugliest truck in existence. It's hard to sell something that looks like ass it's entire life. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Titan is/was a great truck, but they killed it themselves with a shitty entertainment center and sacrificing it to increase their overall CAFE rating. Titan is the ugliest truck in existence. It's hard to sell something that looks like ass it's entire life. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 3:56:16 PM EDT
[#26]
I recently bought a new car and Nissan was not even on my radar. I spotted Honda, Toyota, hyundai, and Ford (never going back).
Nissan has uninspiring cars (GTR is the only cool one and it's easy outta my price range). Nissan and Mitsubishi are the two Asian cat brands I've never considered. Nissan makes voting cars with mediocre performance. Their spokeswoman (Bree Larson) is annoying and insufferable, so I don't even think about the brand. I bought a Toyota and will have it for many years and not need much for maintenance. Nissan quality is low. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:05:41 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Used to have a 1997 Maxima. Best car ever made. SAE chose its DOHC V6 as "one of the 10 best engines in the world." Put 250K miles on it. Also went through a couple of Xterras. Damn things were indestructible, were popular with Death Valley off-roaders. Xterras were more trucks than cars; they were built on the Titan chassis. Nissan got pussified and killed them All gone. Yeah, Nissan is history. Xterra was D40 frontier chassis, NOT titan. The D40 could use front end parts from the titan which is also why they fit on the X. R50 was the last decent Pathfinder. Early X was a D22. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:07:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Old Z best Z.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:13:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: European drivers make all American drivers look like perfect drivers. Quote HistoryQuoted: You’ve never driven in a German speaking country I take it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: European drivers make all American drivers look like perfect drivers. that was in china. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:32:49 PM EDT
[#31]
Cute
Now let's do the big 3... |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:43:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the problem with the CVT? Seriously. My daughter is looking to get a new Rogue S, as that is the car she had prior to her accident,liked it but needs to get another car. I have heard they are not reliable. Seem OK to drive if you are using your vehicle as an appliance. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:49:59 PM EDT
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If this is based on what you mention as the EV sitting on the lot - isn't the SAME thing happening with every manufacturer of EVs (except Tesla). None of them are selling. So if Nissan is DOOMED - then all the other manufactures committing to be all-in on EVs are DOOMED.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 4:56:26 PM EDT
[#34]
They should really focus on the compact truck off-road performance market.
Their best selling vehicle is the frontier. They CAN make good trucks (I have a 2000 frontier and a newer Titan). I've had the frontier for 15 years and daily it. If they can beat Toyota in the performance market and undercut them on price and remind buyers that their motors and such are well thought out since they aren't always changing stuff (how Toyota got to be seen as reliable), while giving good suspension, triple locked, off-road accessories (real ones, not fake plastic crappy appearance stuff), I think they could do it. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:23:14 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: that was in china. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: European & Chinese drivers make all American drivers look like perfect drivers. that was in china. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:26:30 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With as popular as 4runners, Jeeps, and Broncos are, you'd think that bringing back the Xterra would be a no-brainer. Nawww, the sissies at Nissan think it's too redundant with the Pathfinder. Major eye roll.... |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 5:30:08 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They should really focus on the compact truck off-road performance market. Their best selling vehicle is the frontier. They CAN make good trucks (I have a 2000 frontier and a newer Titan). I've had the frontier for 15 years and daily it. If they can beat Toyota in the performance market and undercut them on price and remind buyers that their motors and such are well thought out since they aren't always changing stuff (how Toyota got to be seen as reliable), while giving good suspension, triple locked, off-road accessories (real ones, not fake plastic crappy appearance stuff), I think they could do it. They did that from 1986.5 to 1997 (except a Nissan was more expensive than a Toyota). Hardbody was a fantastic truck which is why mine is 38 years old and looks and drives like new. I've hardly done anything except routine maintenance. Hell, I did ball joints once and it's had a brake job once in its life. Pretty sure it's on its 2nd battery. |
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:03:47 PM EDT
[#38]
Bring back the Hardbody.
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Posted: 12/7/2023 6:04:33 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rez rocket altimas are the most impressive altimas. wrecked on every corner. blacked out tail lights, burned out left headlight. Goes 64mph on the interstate, sun, snow rain or ice. has never met a speed bump, bald tires, dream catcher AND safety pin headdress from the rear view mirror.. "powered by frybread" sticker on trunk or rear bumper, which is always primer. never sure if the crooked license plate is for style, due to collision, or just plane ol falling off. they're slowly replacing the pontiac grand am as the official pace car of the I25 north and south bound 500. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Y’all have never studied the I-24 Nissan Altima variant. - survives multiple impacts and is road worthy - missing a minimum of 2 hub caps - possibly on a spare - expired or non existent tag - travels at high rate of speed - tier 1 suspension for Slalom maneuvers in traffic - advanced cloaking system that hides them from LEO They will last forever. Only known competition is the I-24 Dodge Charger. Rez rocket altimas are the most impressive altimas. wrecked on every corner. blacked out tail lights, burned out left headlight. Goes 64mph on the interstate, sun, snow rain or ice. has never met a speed bump, bald tires, dream catcher AND safety pin headdress from the rear view mirror.. "powered by frybread" sticker on trunk or rear bumper, which is always primer. never sure if the crooked license plate is for style, due to collision, or just plane ol falling off. they're slowly replacing the pontiac grand am as the official pace car of the I25 north and south bound 500. SNORT!!!!! LMAO |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 9:06:43 AM EDT
[#40]
I've had two Titans and I loved them both. My curent one is a 17. What would be a Comparable replacement truck for when I need a new one?
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Posted: 12/8/2023 9:09:40 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is now a Nissan picture thread https://i.imgur.com/nOCeIvH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DW0RqUN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ytvXvKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Vcy2cUD.jpg @FIRE1 What location is that at? |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:23:26 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @FIRE1 What location is that at? The Pathfinder pics are in Big Bend Ranch State Park, TX. The green Titan shot is on Padre Island National Seashore, and the white Titan is at Matagorda, TX. |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:28:51 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Pathfinder pics are in Big Bend Ranch State Park, TX. The green Titan shot is on Padre Island National Seashore, and the white Titan is at Matagorda, TX. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @FIRE1 What location is that at? The Pathfinder pics are in Big Bend Ranch State Park, TX. The green Titan shot is on Padre Island National Seashore, and the white Titan is at Matagorda, TX. Those are some breathtakingly beautiful landscapes |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:44:44 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A 90s Nissan sure, old tech had a stanza with 500k before he dropped it, he has a r32 now. But 00s and newer? Ehhhhh, engine sure, transmission no, electronics no and paint? Definitely not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's the problem, they run forever. There's no real incentive for Nissan owners to buy something new when their car/truck will keep running for the next 100 years. A 90s Nissan sure, old tech had a stanza with 500k before he dropped it, he has a r32 now. But 00s and newer? Ehhhhh, engine sure, transmission no, electronics no and paint? Definitely not. You're wrong, but I like you moxie. 
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:47:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: I see no avenue of escape from their current route. They just keep going more and more downhill and I'm amazed that infinity even still exists. They just can't move shit anymore like they used to in the 00s Our place has had that new cuv ev for a year and have yet to sell it while we have moved 20 or so evs in the same time and they have not even bothered to put an order in for a Z. Unless a crazy miracle happens they are fucked, oh well less competition for Hyundai. a 2022 nissian sentra 2.0l engine is worth less than $700 bucks. car-part is full of 40k mile sentras with bad transmissions. literally one of the biggest piece of shit auto manufactures on the road. they are literally worse than mopar. thats why they can't move shit anymore. these CVTs are sealed, non serviceable-ish, and they can not live for 50k miles. nissan has become mopar of the late 90s-early 2000s. used sentra transmission with a 90 day warranty is $2,000. engine for same car with same warranty is $650. before buying any car check car-part. when you see junkyards busting at the seams with 3 and 4 year old cars that haven't been involved in a crash nor are they in a local area that just had a huge flood something is clearly wrong with that make and model. 2013-up sentras are all the same tune. 2015 sentra 1.8 sub 50k miles are less than $300 bucks. i wish i could find a retrofit niche to put all these damn near new sentra engines in, i could make a killing. it seems the engines are pretty hard to kill. i bet the would make a hellofa gen set, wood chipper, ect engine retrofit engine. |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:49:04 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've had my third gen for two years and 30k miles. It's been solid and I really like it. https://i.postimg.cc/C1LKm4cx/IMG-6237.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Before the update. Whats wrong with the update? Mine has the new engine in the old body style. It fucks. https://i.postimg.cc/C1LKm4cx/IMG-6237.jpg i've been seeing these more and more lately. they are a great looking truck driving down the highway. i like the green one. i have seen a green one a couple times on 35" tires. i like this body style much more than the old body style. |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:51:26 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't know that^ too... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Their first mistake was changing their name from Datsun to Nissan. Didn't know that^ too... some of the old ones were double badged "nissan / datsun" or "datsun / nissan". |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:52:50 AM EDT
[#48]
I've owned two Pathfinders, an '01 and '12 and i've found both to be solid vehicles with few mechanical issues.
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:54:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: some of the old ones were double badged "nissan / datsun" or "datsun / nissan". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Their first mistake was changing their name from Datsun to Nissan. Didn't know that^ too... some of the old ones were double badged "nissan / datsun" or "datsun / nissan". Dat Car and Prince enters the chat  No Prince, no care.  Nobody would. When Nissan killed it at the turn of the century, someone should have been staked. The usefulness was gone but the namsake served as a reminder, even lip service.  Attached FileOG Skyline - Prince |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 10:55:50 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cute Now let's do the big 3... The Big 3 have no legitimate competition in the half ton and larger truck and SUV space. They can continue to print money as long as consumers and fleets want/need those vehicles. |
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